The Little Mermaid Controversy Continues

[Liriena]

Diversity does mean forcing other races down your throat. Diversity won't just happen on its own, we have to actively create the post-racial society we want to live in.

Ok boomer

Please tell me you're being ironic

[Ifreann]

Ok boomer

Boomer level misapplication of a meme leveled at boomers. Meta.

Boomer, as we can see here, is a state of mind.

[Samadhi]

Ok boomer

Boomer level misapplication of a meme leveled at boomers. Meta.

Thinking ok boomer is a meme.

Go back to your ineffective street march millennial, the environment is waiting for you to tantrum hard enough to fix it.

[The Black Forrest]

Ok boomer

Please tell me you're being ironic

Wait....we are supposed to take our irony pills today?

[Liriena]

Boomer level misapplication of a meme leveled at boomers. Meta.

Thinking ok boomer is a meme.

Go back to your ineffective street march millennial, the environment is waiting for you to tantrum hard enough to fix it.

Thank you for your candor, ma'am, but this is a Wendy's drive through

[Satuga]

Well yeah of course it technically means that, but I'm more talking about people getting upset if anything but a extra is a white person lol

So what I'm to understand here is that you do actually think that they're right, diversity does mean fewer white people, but you still disagree with them.

It's not that I disagree with diversity, It's that I disagree with the way people act when said diversity isn't implemented in the way they want.

[Ifreann]

So what I'm to understand here is that you do actually think that they're right, diversity does mean fewer white people, but you still disagree with them.

It's not that I disagree with diversity, It's that I disagree with the way people act when said diversity isn't implemented in the way they want.

Oh no, are they posting on the internet but bad?

[Satuga]

It's not that I disagree with diversity, It's that I disagree with the way people act when said diversity isn't implemented in the way they want.

Oh no, are they posting on the internet but bad?

Are you seriously trying to make that argument? We could go on and on about who's right and who's wrong and we would still be here sitting with our thumbs up our asses.

[Farnhamia]

Boomer level misapplication of a meme leveled at boomers. Meta.

Thinking ok boomer is a meme.

Go back to your ineffective street march millennial, the environment is waiting for you to tantrum hard enough to fix it.

Everyone: Don't make me bring "OK Boomer" and other such crap up to the rest of the Mod Team. They're a lot less forgiving than I am. If all you've got is name-calling, go find a school playground.

[Asle Leopolka]

This is a children's movie made by a hegemonic corporate entity. Maybe that's why I find it difficult to care about what amounts to tabloid beef that's only going to give one of the larget entertainment conglomerates more press.

My sentiments exactly. I only care because DIS stock is down 2% for the day.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Wouldn't it make sense to cast a white actor as Prince Eric anyway since the fairy tale of the Little Mermaid is of Northern European origin? Unless Disney was looking to make a more culturally diverse version of the story in this live action rendition, that is... I don't know.

[Outer Sparta]

What's with these kinds of things that brings out the racism debate? Eh, just wanting to put my thoughts out and leave.

[Nuroblav]

Wouldn't it make sense to cast a white actor as Prince Eric anyway since the fairy tale of the Little Mermaid is of Northern European origin? Unless Disney was looking to make a more culturally diverse version of the story in this live action rendition, that is... I don't know.

Yeah I think that would make sense.

A similar thing happened with The Aeronauts, another film out at the moment. One of the main characters is a woman despite the fact that they weren't the case in the real life incident. Tbh, if they did stay true to the source it would be boring and the characters would just walk off to the local pub (as what happened in real life).

[The Two Jerseys]

So are white people allowed to be outraged if they cast a black person as James Bond, or is this a one-way street?

[Deacarsia]

Inclusion in art is important but jesus fucking christ I'm tired of the constant borderline incestuous circle-jerking within the American culture industry about which corporate cultural product is the most "woke".

I don't even want a Little Mermaid remake.

Yeah, this whole phenomenon really is irritating.

[Deacarsia]

I really don't understand some people. It's just a bloody film! Diversity doesn't mean 'muh non-whites', it means accepting anyone regardless of who they are. That doesn't necessarily mean having to force other races down our throats. When I see a film, I don't care about their races.

Diversity does mean forcing other races down your throat. Diversity won't just happen on its own, we have to actively create the post-racial society we want to live in.

Who is “we?”

[Deacarsia]

Wouldn't it make sense to cast a white actor as Prince Eric anyway since the fairy tale of the Little Mermaid is of Northern European origin? Unless Disney was looking to make a more culturally diverse version of the story in this live action rendition, that is... I don't know.

Yes, that is my entire point. The story is Northern European, and just pushing “diversity” is silly, like how in the atrocious remake of Beauty and the Beast they added black nobleman in eighteenth century France for no reason. It just is ridiculous.

[New haven america]

So are white people allowed to be outraged if they cast a black person as James Bond, or is this a one-way street?

I mean, given the history of non-white people and roles in Hollywood, yes, this is generally a 1 way street.

[Deacarsia]

So are white people allowed to be outraged if they cast a black person as James Bond, or is this a one-way street?

Bond is a white Englishman, as written by Ian Fleming. I would be irritated if they even cast a white American as Bond. He is quintessentially mid-twentieth century British, and people need to stop messing around with characters just to show off how “progressive” they think they are.

[Purpelia]

So are white people allowed to be outraged if they cast a black person as James Bond, or is this a one-way street?

Bond is a white Englishman, as written by Ian Fleming. I would be irritated if they even cast a white American as Bond. He is quintessentially mid-twentieth century British, and people need to stop messing around with characters just to show off how “progressive” they think they are.

This. Actors need to match the character they are playing.

[New haven america]

Wouldn't it make sense to cast a white actor as Prince Eric anyway since the fairy tale of the Little Mermaid is of Northern European origin? Unless Disney was looking to make a more culturally diverse version of the story in this live action rendition, that is... I don't know.

Yes, but Disney's trying to be as "woke" and diverse as possible to make up for past racism mistakes (Part of this is also pretending that racism and class problems didn't exist within Disney).

Hollywood for some reason really doesn't like red heads anymore, so they keep trying to replace them with black people, which is what started the shit fuckery around the remake to begin with, when Disney decided to not use a red-head (Instead a black women) for one of the most famous red-headed characters of all time. (Other examples of this can be seen with Wally West in The Flash, Triss Merigold in Netflix's Witcher, Annie's remake with Willow Smith, kinda Starfire in DC's Titans, etc...)

[New haven america]

Bond is a white Englishman, as written by Ian Fleming. I would be irritated if they even cast a white American as Bond. He is quintessentially mid-twentieth century British, and people need to stop messing around with characters just to show off how “progressive” they think they are.

This. Actors need to match the character they are playing.

So do you think Nick Fury should be a stoic white guy?

Cause he ain't black nor does he look or act like Samuel Jackson in the comics.

[The Two Jerseys]

So are white people allowed to be outraged if they cast a black person as James Bond, or is this a one-way street?

Bond is a white Englishman, as written by Ian Fleming. I would be irritated if they even cast a white American as Bond. He is quintessentially mid-twentieth century British, and people need to stop messing around with characters just to show off how “progressive” they think they are.

Technically he's Scottish-Swiss...

But Fleming specifically describes him as looking like Hoagy Carmichael, and that's all that matters.

[Deacarsia]

Mulan may or may not have existed, it is unclear.

The Little Mermaid was written in 1837, when pretty much all Danes were white, and the original adaptation portrayed the characters as white. If the movie did make Ariel African, then you might be right that they should try to cast a black actress, but this seems like a cheap excuse to veer from the source material. I am not getting worked up; I merely am expressing my opinion. Obviously Ariel does not exist, but the concept still should be faithful to the source material.

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/09/73995075 ... le-mermaid

Seems as if the original creator for the character largely dismisses the notion that, because of the fact "pretty much all Danes were white," that therefore Ariel, herself, must be white. If going off of the source material, it's inherently based on the premise of fiction, as opposed to reality. If it were the latter, she obviously wouldn't be half-fish. If we're making that argument, I don't see how it is remotely infeasible for there to be a black mermaid swimming in the oceans around Denmark, if it can be reasonably explained.

Honestly, for all we know, Halle Berry might have done such a tremendous audition that Disney felt they couldn't pass up on the opportunity to sign her for the role. She is a tremendous singer, and she may just be such an underrated actress as well. There are a lot of things that go into these decisions beside "let's do something different for the sake of doing something different." I doubt a corporation, such as Disney, would have done something like this haphazardly. They may not be what they used to be, but they still know what they are doing.

They interviewed Hans Christian Andersen?

All kidding aside, there is no reason to mess with characters’ races in fiction. Just leave them alone, and cast black actors to play black characters like in Black Panther. Wakanda and T’Challa may be fictional as well, but I would be strongly opposed to casting non-black actors to play those parts.

Halle Berry is a very talented actress, and I am sure she would give a great acting performance, but this is beside the point. The Little Mermaid is a Danish story written by a Dane, and the characters were written to look like the people of Denmark when the story was written, just as T’Challa was written to be the black king of an African kingdom and Mowgli is written as a little Indian boy raised by wolves in the jungles of India.

The sole reason behind hiring actors in this fashion is as “diversity”/affirmative action hires to show how “enlightened” Disney thinks they are. Stop messing with existing stories just for the sake of it, Disney, and make some new stories if you really want more “diverse” characters.

[Deacarsia]

Bond is a white Englishman, as written by Ian Fleming. I would be irritated if they even cast a white American as Bond. He is quintessentially mid-twentieth century British, and people need to stop messing around with characters just to show off how “progressive” they think they are.

Technically he's Scottish-Swiss...

But Fleming specifically describes him as looking like Hoagy Carmichael, and that's all that matters.

Exactly.