MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[Gormwood]

I Predict that if or when the Democrats vote on articles of impeachment against President Trump and get It passed in the house. which will move the Process to the Senate. The Republicans who will be able to call any witnesses they wish. Will call Hunter Biden, Democrat Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella to testify in Public before the Senate.

If Eric Ciaramella really is the whistleblower the subpoena process will not let Eric Ciaramella testify because he is the whistleblower. But while we will probably not know the reasons why, it will by default prove Eric Ciaramella is the whistleblower. If he is not the whistleblower the subpoena process will call him to testify in Public before the Senate.

Perhaps even Joe Biden will be called by the Republicans to testify in the Senate.

Okay real talk: How come you always write "Democrat Adam Schiff" but you don't put the political party for anyone else?
Also why would the Bidens be called to testify? They have nothing to do with the incident itself.

Because the Republicans will be desperate enough to try and make it all about Joe Biden and Ukrainespiracy.

[Insaanistan]

If you look at the facts, you’ll see it’s obvious that he should be impeached. It’s too much, and I won’t b surprised to discover another one of his scandals.

[San Montalbano]

If you look at the facts, you’ll see it’s obvious that he should be impeached. It’s too much, and I won’t b surprised to discover another one of his scandals.

There are no facts, the witnesses have only provided second or third hand accounts

[Greater Miami Shores]

I Predict that if or when the Democrats vote on articles of impeachment against President Trump and get It passed in the house. which will move the Process to the Senate. The Republicans who will be able to call any witnesses they wish. Will call Hunter Biden, Democrat Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella to testify in Public before the Senate.

If Eric Ciaramella really is the whistleblower the subpoena process will not let Eric Ciaramella testify because he is the whistleblower. But while we will probably not know the reasons why, it will by default prove Eric Ciaramella is the whistleblower. If he is not the whistleblower the subpoena process will call him to testify in Public before the Senate.

Perhaps even Joe Biden will be called by the Republicans to testify in the Senate.

Okay real talk: How come you always write "Democrat Adam Schiff" but you don't put the political party for anyone else?
Also why would the Bidens be called to testify? They have nothing to do with the incident itself.

I write Democrat Adam Schiff as a politically correct favor to the left, because I used to write Biased Democrat Adam Schiff and I got a lot of put downs, fun of and complaints from the left. Not that Democrat Adam Schiff does not deserve the description as head of the Democrats against President Trump, Not that I owe it to the left not describe him as such, which Democrat Adam Schiff is very biased against President Trump, for personal political reasons as a Democrat.

I also write or have written at times Democrat Nancy Pelosi, Republican Devin Nunes, Republican Mike Turner and so on.

The Bidens are connected to Ukraine through Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden did an interview where he admitted he probably would not have gotten the job at Burisma of Ukraine if his name was not Biden, would probably have not gotten many other business opportunities in his carrear if his name was not Biden. It raises questions of corruption on the part of the Bidens, proving the charges of President Trump and the Republicans as possible.

Hunter Biden did not even know anything about gas and was paid at least $ 50 000 dollars a month by Burisma, ill keep it short you all know the rest of the story. Hunter Biden has business interests with a major Chinese government corporation in China and has traveled to China on a US government plane with his dad Vice President Joe Biden and they have never talked business, common on, another American expression.

[Zurkerx]

If you look at the facts, you’ll see it’s obvious that he should be impeached. It’s too much, and I won’t b surprised to discover another one of his scandals.

There are no facts, the witnesses have only provided second or third hand accounts

Umm, Morrison, Vindman, and Williams were on the call so...

[San Montalbano]

There are no facts, the witnesses have only provided second or third hand accounts

Umm, Morrison, Vindman, and Williams were on the call so...

Who else was on the call?

[Gormwood]

There are no facts, the witnesses have only provided second or third hand accounts

Umm, Morrison, Vindman, and Williams were on the call so...

It doesn't count unless they were in the same room as Trump, duh.

[Fartsniffage]

If you look at the facts, you’ll see it’s obvious that he should be impeached. It’s too much, and I won’t b surprised to discover another one of his scandals.

There are no facts, the witnesses have only provided second or third hand accounts

The transcript wasn't a fact? The people who have confirmed the words on the call aren't a fact?

What would you call a fact?

[Zurkerx]

Umm, Morrison, Vindman, and Williams were on the call so...

Who else was on the call?

Pompeo was another one. I think there was 6-12 people total (I'll have to look it up) but Pompeo and others were told not to testify (and some arbitrarily decided to not testify anyway). The smart thing to do in my opinion would have been to have these officials testify and bring documents showing no wrongdoing. After all, it would embarrass the Democrats and show them more as trying to undermine the President. The fact they didn't do that tells me there's something to suspect.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Funny how the right and the Republicans defending President Trump have a different take than the left and the Democrats attacking and making fun of President Trump have a different take on the same evidence presented before the house committee by the witnesses most of which or all of which were called by the Democrats to testify? Funny is a figure of speech.

Including the right wing media and the left wing media?

[The Black Forrest]

Funny how the right and the Republicans defending President Trump have a different take than the left and the Democrats attacking and making fun of President Trump have a different take on the same evidence presented before the house committee by the witnesses most of which or all of which were called by the Democrats to testify? Funny is a figure of speech.

Including the right wing media and the left wing media?

The problem? Trumps fanbase seems to eat up whatever they are told. Everyone of them I have interacted with automattically dismiss anything that doesn’t paint donnie in a great light.

To this day I still remember a Kentucky Coal miner. Not exact due to time: “MAGA is a myth, the coal jobs are not returning and I am worse off then before. I still support him!”

WTF?

I have run into this a few times (some are relatives ).

There really can’t be a common ground anymore.

[San Montalbano]

Funny how the right and the Republicans defending President Trump have a different take than the left and the Democrats attacking and making fun of President Trump have a different take on the same evidence presented before the house committee by the witnesses most of which or all of which were called by the Democrats to testify? Funny is a figure of speech.

Including the right wing media and the left wing media?

The problem? Trumps fanbase seems to eat up whatever they are told. Everyone of them I have interacted with automattically dismiss anything that doesn’t paint donnie in a great light.

To this day I still remember a Kentucky Coal miner. Not exact due to time: “MAGA is a myth, the coal jobs are not returning and I am worse off then before. I still support him!”

WTF?

I have run into this a few times (some are relatives ).

There really can’t be a common ground anymore.

Washington post has nancy pelosi saying that we cant afford having an election because voters are too “weak” whatever that means

[The Black Forrest]

The problem? Trumps fanbase seems to eat up whatever they are told. Everyone of them I have interacted with automattically dismiss anything that doesn’t paint donnie in a great light.

To this day I still remember a Kentucky Coal miner. Not exact due to time: “MAGA is a myth, the coal jobs are not returning and I am worse off then before. I still support him!”

WTF?

I have run into this a few times (some are relatives ).

There really can’t be a common ground anymore.

Washington post has nancy pelosi saying that we cant afford having an election because voters are too “weak” whatever that means

She might be referring to the amount of people who vote by sound bite.

[San Montalbano]

Washington post has nancy pelosi saying that we cant afford having an election because voters are too “weak” whatever that means

She might be referring to the amount of people who vote by sound bite.

So?

[The Black Forrest]

She might be referring to the amount of people who vote by sound bite.

So?

Trump voters. Tell me how to vote.

[Zurkerx]

Somethings you may have missed today from the hearings.

While Morrison and Volker rejected the idea that there was no "Quid Quo Pro" and or "Bribery", they also rejected the GOP's conspiracy theories of Ukraine helping in the election and told the committee about their discomfort about Giuliani. Morrison pointing out that some of the things Trump talked about weren't on the talking points on the call and essentially said investigating the Bidens "was not a policy objective," which dealt a blow into Trump's insistence that he had no personal stake in pressuring Zelensky for investigations.

The best part probably though was about Rep. Nunes:

In a Freudian slip, GOP Rep. Devin Nunes referred to Volker and Morrison as "your witnesses" while speaking to Democrats. But both men were on the GOP witness list. Nunes' flub is a telling sign of how badly the impeachment hearing went for Republicans, as their own witnesses undermined their defense of the president.

I'm sure the GOP was taken by surprised by that. Tomorrow's witness, Gordon Sondland, will heighten the anticipation.

[Gormwood]

Funny how the right and the Republicans defending President Trump have a different take than the left and the Democrats attacking and making fun of President Trump have a different take on the same evidence presented before the house committee by the witnesses most of which or all of which were called by the Democrats to testify? Funny is a figure of speech.

Including the right wing media and the left wing media?

The problem? Trumps fanbase seems to eat up whatever they are told. Everyone of them I have interacted with automattically dismiss anything that doesn’t paint donnie in a great light.

To this day I still remember a Kentucky Coal miner. Not exact due to time: “MAGA is a myth, the coal jobs are not returning and I am worse off then before. I still support him!”

WTF?

I have run into this a few times (some are relatives ).

There really can’t be a common ground anymore.

It sounds like how victims of con artists continue to go along due to shame, sunk cost fallacy or outright blackmail.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

The problem? Trumps fanbase seems to eat up whatever they are told. Everyone of them I have interacted with automattically dismiss anything that doesn’t paint donnie in a great light.

To this day I still remember a Kentucky Coal miner. Not exact due to time: “MAGA is a myth, the coal jobs are not returning and I am worse off then before. I still support him!”

WTF?

I have run into this a few times (some are relatives :( ).

There really can’t be a common ground anymore.

It sounds like how victims of con artists continue to go along due to shame, sunk cost fallacy or outright blackmail.

I think we need a new category of Stockholm syndrome. <.>

[Greater Miami Shores]

Funny how the right and the Republicans defending President Trump have a different take than the left and the Democrats attacking and making fun of President Trump have a different take on the same evidence presented before the house committee by the witnesses most of which or all of which were called by the Democrats to testify? Funny is a figure of speech.

Including the right wing media and the left wing media?

The problem? Trumps fanbase seems to eat up whatever they are told. Everyone of them I have interacted with automattically dismiss anything that doesn’t paint donnie in a great light.

To this day I still remember a Kentucky Coal miner. Not exact due to time: “MAGA is a myth, the coal jobs are not returning and I am worse off then before. I still support him!”

WTF?

I have run into this a few times (some are relatives ).

There really can’t be a common ground anymore.

Guess what, the problem is, the same can be said of the Democrats hard core base, they seem to eat up whatever the Democrats tell them against President Trump. Everyone of them we have interactd with automatically dismiss anything that doesn't paint Donnie in a bad light.

There really can’t be a common ground anymore. Because it is very clear the Democrats in congress and the Democratic Presidential candidates have charged, tried and convicted President Donnie Trump guilty as charged by the Democrats, have declared Political war against President Trump and the Republicans. It is very clear and it is very easy to see and understand. Lets all not deny the obvious, I can post links to this as I have before. I can go on and on this post with information links to back up my point as I have done before, but it will not change the minds of the Democrats and Democrat supporters hard core base against President Donnie Trump. Lets be honest about it.

If you have family or relatives who support President Donnie Trump they have a democratic right to do so. No one can tell them they are wrong based on facts and we are right based on facts, based on their own facts.

[Vassenor]

The problem? Trumps fanbase seems to eat up whatever they are told. Everyone of them I have interacted with automattically dismiss anything that doesn’t paint donnie in a great light.

To this day I still remember a Kentucky Coal miner. Not exact due to time: “MAGA is a myth, the coal jobs are not returning and I am worse off then before. I still support him!”

WTF?

I have run into this a few times (some are relatives ).

There really can’t be a common ground anymore.

Guess what, the problem is, the same can be said of the Democrats hard core base, they seem to eat up whatever the Democrats tell them against President Trump. Everyone of them we have interactd with automatically dismiss anything that doesn't paint Donnie in a bad light.

There really can’t be a common ground anymore. Because it is very clear the Democrats in congress and the Democratic Presidential candidates have charged, tried and convicted President Donnie Trump guilty as charged by the Democrats, have declared Political war against President Trump and the Republicans. It is very clear and it is very easy to see and understand. Lets all not deny the obvious, I can post links to this as I have before. I can go on and on this post with information links to back up my point as I have done before, but it will not change the minds of the Democrats and Democrat supporters hard core base against President Donnie Trump. Lets be honest about it.

When you actually present facts, let me know.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Guess what, the problem is, the same can be said of the Democrats hard core base, they seem to eat up whatever the Democrats tell them against President Trump. Everyone of them we have interactd with automatically dismiss anything that doesn't paint Donnie in a bad light.

There really can’t be a common ground anymore. Because it is very clear the Democrats in congress and the Democratic Presidential candidates have charged, tried and convicted President Donnie Trump guilty as charged by the Democrats, have declared Political war against President Trump and the Republicans. It is very clear and it is very easy to see and understand. Lets all not deny the obvious, I can post links to this as I have before. I can go on and on this post with information links to back up my point as I have done before, but it will not change the minds of the Democrats and Democrat supporters hard core base against President Donnie Trump. Lets be honest about it.

When you actually present facts, let me know.

lol, I and others have presented evidence, the problem is you and the others as anti Trumpers don't accept and don't like the evidence, for obvious political reasons. Read The Black Forest and my post, if it works and fits against the Republicans it works and fits against the Democrats too. Lets not deny it.

[Vassenor]

When you actually present facts, let me know.

lol, I and others have presented evidence, the problem is you and the others as anti Trumpers don't accept and don't like the evidence, for obvious political reasons. Read The Black Forest and my post, if it works and fits against the Republicans it works and fits against the Democrats too. Lets not deny it.

Says the person who writes off evidence against Trump as just opinions and hearsay.

[Necroghastia]

When you actually present facts, let me know.

lol, I and others have presented evidence, the problem is you and the others as anti Trumpers don't accept and don't like the evidence, for obvious political reasons. Read The Black Forest and my post, if it works and fits against the Republicans it works and fits against the Democrats too. Lets not deny it.

what? how?
and what are you calling the "political reasons" for dismissing the evidence you have supposedly brought up?

[Greater Miami Shores]

lol, I and others have presented evidence, the problem is you and the others as anti Trumpers don't accept and don't like the evidence, for obvious political reasons. Read The Black Forest and my post, if it works and fits against the Republicans it works and fits against the Democrats too. Lets not deny it.

Says the person who writes off evidence against Trump as just opinions and hearsay.

Says the person who seems to write off evidence in support of President Trump as wrong.

Here is evidence with video testimony and transcript testimony of Ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch:
But I will NS Bet $ it will not change your mind and your leftists pro Democrat friends on President Donnie Trump, proving my point. Let me know with a post if I am wrong and it does change your mind against President Donnie Trump and I will apologize to you and any of you personally on this thread?

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[Gravlen]

Somethings you may have missed today from the hearings.

While Morrison and Volker rejected the idea that there was no "Quid Quo Pro" and or "Bribery", they also rejected the GOP's conspiracy theories of Ukraine helping in the election and told the committee about their discomfort about Giuliani. Morrison pointing out that some of the things Trump talked about weren't on the talking points on the call and essentially said investigating the Bidens "was not a policy objective," which dealt a blow into Trump's insistence that he had no personal stake in pressuring Zelensky for investigations.

The best part probably though was about Rep. Nunes:

In a Freudian slip, GOP Rep. Devin Nunes referred to Volker and Morrison as "your witnesses" while speaking to Democrats. But both men were on the GOP witness list. Nunes' flub is a telling sign of how badly the impeachment hearing went for Republicans, as their own witnesses undermined their defense of the president.

I'm sure the GOP was taken by surprised by that. Tomorrow's witness, Gordon Sondland, will heighten the anticipation.

It's probably a step too far to think Nunes is representative of the GOP mindset. I mean, he might have seen a cow he didn't liked before he spoke and got rattled, or maybe he was preoccupied with thinking about which Twitter accounts to sue next.

You know, since Nunes is a litigious milk dud and a treasonous cowpoke who has a farm in Iowa.