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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:47 am

Gormwood wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:Ah, seems Vindman and Williams testimony has wrapped up. Up next is Volker and Morrison, both of whom should fill in key holes and show a more favorable view of the President.

And drift back to Ukrainespiracy.

Which is all republicans have to go on it seems

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:50 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I have presented the statements of Ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch with Video were they state President Trump has done nothing wrong to their knowledge. Perhaps you have not seen my posts, because the thread moves very fast and their are hundreds of posts.

No they did not state that

San Lumen, watch the videos and read the statements of Ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch:
viewtopic.php?p=36446971#p36446971

on your question of views;
viewtopic.php?p=36449757#p36449757
I was asking Zurkerx a question, he choose the option of not answering my question and I accept his decision and I will not ask him again. Then I asked him another question as he answered me and I thanked him for it, because I am a gentleman, a nice guy and a cool Dude.

On your statement on President Trump and the military, I agree with your statement, I never said I did not agree with your statement on President Trump and the military.
viewtopic.php?p=36449757#p36449757
That does not change the answers of Ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch, saying they have no knowledge of President Trump doing anything illegal according to the video and testimony they provided above in the link I provide you with, please see the video and read the read their statements that shows my point of view, thank you.
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Postby Asle Leopolka » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:54 am

San Lumen wrote:
Gormwood wrote:And drift back to Ukrainespiracy.

Which is all republicans have to go on it seems

And the insane polarization this country finds itself in.
And the unwavering support of Trump's base (plus the GOP as a whole, to a lesser extent)

I'd love to see impeachment support among Ds/Rs/Is BY STATE. Specifically in Pennsylvania, Michigan, North Carolina, Florida, Nevada, Colorado, Wisconsin, and Ohio.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:54 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No they did not state that

San Lumen, watch the videos and read the statements of Ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch:
viewtopic.php?p=36446971#p36446971

on your question of views;
viewtopic.php?p=36449757#p36449757
I was asking Zurkerx a question, he choose the option of not answering my question and I accept his decision and I will not ask him again. Then I asked him another question as he answered me and I thanked him for it, because I am a gentleman, a nice guy and a cool Dude.

Breitbart is not a reliable source. Plus never once did they defend Trump asking for a favor in exchange for military aid.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:San Lumen, watch the videos and read the statements of Ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch:
viewtopic.php?p=36446971#p36446971

on your question of views;
viewtopic.php?p=36449757#p36449757
I was asking Zurkerx a question, he choose the option of not answering my question and I accept his decision and I will not ask him again. Then I asked him another question as he answered me and I thanked him for it, because I am a gentleman, a nice guy and a cool Dude.

Breitbart is not a reliable source. Plus never once did they defend Trump asking for a favor in exchange for military aid.

You accidentally cut me off before I could finish my post, but that is due to my bad habit of editing my posts a few times so here it is in full:
viewtopic.php?p=36450238#p36450238

Guess what San Lumen the videos speak for ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch not breitbart, and their statements I posted match their video statements, please watch the videos and read the their statements which match the videos.

Guess what San Lumen to you Breitbart is not a reliable source, but to millions of American citizens like myself and others breibart is a reliable source. Just because you don't like it and don't agree with it, does not mean it is not a reliable source, it is a reliable source to me and millions of American citizens. Remember how we recently discussed democracy and we agreed we all have a right to disagree in a democracy, no different on this issue.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:11 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:on your question of views;
viewtopic.php?p=36449757#p36449757
I was asking Zurkerx a question, he choose the option of not answering my question and I accept his decision and I will not ask him again. Then I asked him another question as he answered me and I thanked him for it, because I am a gentleman, a nice guy and a cool Dude.


You obviously missed the first part then:

Zurkerx wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Zurkerx while you support the impeachment of President Trump by the Democrats, you seem to understand the views of us Republicans on the issue, even if you strongly disagree with us, is this correct?


I'm well aware of the views of the other side: it's my job to understand multiple sides of the issues, even if I vehemently disagree with them and the facts go against them too. I'm not exactly sure what "views" you're pointing out but I'm assuming it's he'll be impeached but not removed, which as it stands, is correct because Republicans won't remove their own President in fear of retaliation of GOP voters and their heavy reliance on Trump's political funding network.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:16 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:on your question of views;
viewtopic.php?p=36449757#p36449757
I was asking Zurkerx a question, he choose the option of not answering my question and I accept his decision and I will not ask him again. Then I asked him another question as he answered me and I thanked him for it, because I am a gentleman, a nice guy and a cool Dude.


You obviously missed the first part then:

Zurkerx wrote:
I'm well aware of the views of the other side: it's my job to understand multiple sides of the issues, even if I vehemently disagree with them and the facts go against them too. I'm not exactly sure what "views" you're pointing out but I'm assuming it's he'll be impeached but not removed, which as it stands, is correct because Republicans won't remove their own President in fear of retaliation of GOP voters and their heavy reliance on Trump's political funding network.

Thank you again Zurkerk, I guess I did miss the first part. I am refereeing too that you understand our Republican views and feelings why we believe President Trump is not guilty and being charged by the Democrats as guilty. Even though I understand you strongly disagree with us that Trump is not guilty. This is all I asked you and nothing else? I always give thank yous.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:18 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Breitbart is not a reliable source. Plus never once did they defend Trump asking for a favor in exchange for military aid.

You accidentally cut me off before I could finish my post, but that is due to my bad habit of editing my posts a few times so here it is in full:
viewtopic.php?p=36450238#p36450238

Guess what San Lumen the videos speak for ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch not breitbart, and their statements I posted match their video statements, please watch the videos and read the their statements which match the videos.

Guess what San Lumen to you Breitbart is not a reliable source, but to millions of American citizens like myself and others breibart is a reliable source. Just because you don't like it and don't agree with it, does not mean it is not a reliable source, it is a reliable source to me and millions of American citizens. Remember how we recently discussed democracy and we agreed we all have a right to disagree in a democracy, no different on this issue.

Breitbart might be reliable to some on the right but it isn't considered a reliable source by many others. Stop using my nation name in your posts. You quoted me there is no reason to use it.

They did not defend Trump's conduct. Your hearing what you want to.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:23 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:You accidentally cut me off before I could finish my post, but that is due to my bad habit of editing my posts a few times so here it is in full:
viewtopic.php?p=36450238#p36450238

Guess what San Lumen the videos speak for ambassadors Bill Taylor and Marie Yovanovitch not breitbart, and their statements I posted match their video statements, please watch the videos and read the their statements which match the videos.

Guess what San Lumen to you Breitbart is not a reliable source, but to millions of American citizens like myself and others breibart is a reliable source. Just because you don't like it and don't agree with it, does not mean it is not a reliable source, it is a reliable source to me and millions of American citizens. Remember how we recently discussed democracy and we agreed we all have a right to disagree in a democracy, no different on this issue.

Breitbart might be reliable to some on the right but it isn't considered a reliable source by many others. Stop using my nation name in your posts. You quoted me there is no reason to use it.

They did not defend Trump's conduct. Your hearing what you want to.

They stated President Trump did not do anything criminal and other such statements they made. Just because you and other leftists in American terms don't like breitbart does not mean brietbart is not reliable. I have answered all these questions you have asked me clearly and correctly. Peace over and out.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:25 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Breitbart might be reliable to some on the right but it isn't considered a reliable source by many others. Stop using my nation name in your posts. You quoted me there is no reason to use it.

They did not defend Trump's conduct. Your hearing what you want to.

They stated President Trump did not do anything criminal and other such statements they made. Just because you and other leftists in American terms don't like breitbart does not mean brietbart is not reliable. I have answered all these questions correctly you have asked me. Peace over and out.

No they did not. Your just hearing what you want to hear and yet again you run away with your peace over and out. Its impossible to have debate with you.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:32 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:They stated President Trump did not do anything criminal and other such statements they made. Just because you and other leftists in American terms don't like breitbart does not mean brietbart is not reliable. I have answered all these questions correctly you have asked me. Peace over and out.

No they did not. Your just hearing what you want to hear and yet again you run away with your peace over and out. Its impossible to have debate with you.

Back in lol. No it seems like it is impossible to argue and debate with you.

You support the Democrats and a Democratic Presidential candidate. I support the Republicans and President Trump, we disagree. At times in US Court of Laws the jury is divided over the guilty or innocence of a person over the same so called evidence no different on the Trump Impeachment inquiry investigation. I am not the only one who shares my views.

Just like you are not the only one who shares your views, no difference here.

You never agree or accept my answers to your questions agree with them or not and move on, to another time and other questions on other related issues or un related issues. you usually keep asking the same question I answered over and over again, as your posts to me prove to me.

You seem to just want me to agree with your views, that President Trump is guilty as charged by the Democrats.

You even asked to admit it in a form of a question. Why don't I just admit it, you said.

It does not work that way, just your way as you asked me above to just admit it.

Thank you for your post. Peace over and out and this time I mean it, till we meet again on another different post and issue.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:56 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
You obviously missed the first part then:


Thank you again Zurkerk, I guess I did miss the first part. I am refereeing too that you understand our Republican views and feelings why we believe President Trump is not guilty and being charged by the Democrats as guilty. Even though I understand you strongly disagree with us that Trump is not guilty. This is all I asked you and nothing else? I always give thank yous.


No problem. And correct, glad you understand where I'm coming from.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:01 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Thank you again Zurkerk, I guess I did miss the first part. I am refereeing too that you understand our Republican views and feelings why we believe President Trump is not guilty and being charged by the Democrats as guilty. Even though I understand you strongly disagree with us that Trump is not guilty. This is all I asked you and nothing else? I always give thank yous.


No problem. And correct, glad you understand where I'm coming from.

Yes thank you again Zurkerk, for at least understanding our Republican reasons and feelings on this Trump impeachment issue. Even though you strongly disagree with us, and it is ok on both sides to disagree on the right and on the left. You are one of the very few on the left to at least understand the right even though you strongly disagree with us. I respect you for this.

I understand your reasons and support of the Democrats and against President Trump, even though I disagree. I know President Trump is no gentleman and uses foul language, and that is not correct, that is not cool.

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Postby Totenborg » Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:42 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Breitbart might be reliable to some on the right but it isn't considered a reliable source by many others. Stop using my nation name in your posts. You quoted me there is no reason to use it.

They did not defend Trump's conduct. Your hearing what you want to.

They stated President Trump did not do anything criminal and other such statements they made. Just because you and other leftists in American terms don't like breitbart does not mean brietbart is not reliable. I have answered all these questions you have asked me clearly and correctly. Peace over and out.

You're right, us disliking Breitbart doesn't make them unreliable. Breitbart being unreliable makes them unreliable.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:06 pm

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:They stated President Trump did not do anything criminal and other such statements they made. Just because you and other leftists in American terms don't like breitbart does not mean brietbart is not reliable. I have answered all these questions you have asked me clearly and correctly. Peace over and out.

You're right, us disliking Breitbart doesn't make them unreliable. Breitbart being unreliable makes them unreliable.

As far as I'm concerned, Breitbart = one of the many 21st century ver's of Der Stürmer.

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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:08 pm

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Totenborg wrote:You're right, us disliking Breitbart doesn't make them unreliable. Breitbart being unreliable makes them unreliable.

As far as I'm concerned, Breitbart = one of the many 21st century ver's of Der Stürmer.

Didn't Breitbart push Ukrainespiracy?
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Postby San Montalbano » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:08 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:As far as I'm concerned, Breitbart = one of the many 21st century ver's of Der Stürmer.

Didn't Breitbart push Ukrainespiracy?


What ukrainespiracy?
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:08 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:As far as I'm concerned, Breitbart = one of the many 21st century ver's of Der Stürmer.

Didn't Breitbart push Ukrainespiracy?


Why are you using the past tense?
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:13 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Didn't Breitbart push Ukrainespiracy?


Why are you using the past tense?

Not sure if they're still doing it.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:30 pm

So, what I'm reading is the fact that there are inconsistencies with Volker's Private Testimony and his Opening Statement now: he says he has learned a great new detail and seems to be revising some of his earlier statements. Looks like he'll be a less attracting option for the GOP now.

He also said that he "should have seen the Burisma investigation request differently" and appears to originally thought it was just Burisma. He realizes now that Biden and Burisma are two separate things: one is okay (the latter he says), but the former is not.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:57 pm

Zurkerx wrote:So, what I'm reading is the fact that there are inconsistencies with Volker's Private Testimony and his Opening Statement now: he says he has learned a great new detail and seems to be revising some of his earlier statements. Looks like he'll be a less attracting option for the GOP now.

He also said that he "should have seen the Burisma investigation request differently" and appears to originally thought it was just Burisma. He realizes now that Biden and Burisma are two separate things: one is okay (the latter he says), but the former is not.

Saying Burisma is okay contradicts Nunes, who went out of his way to call Burisma utterly corrupt.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:02 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:So, what I'm reading is the fact that there are inconsistencies with Volker's Private Testimony and his Opening Statement now: he says he has learned a great new detail and seems to be revising some of his earlier statements. Looks like he'll be a less attracting option for the GOP now.

He also said that he "should have seen the Burisma investigation request differently" and appears to originally thought it was just Burisma. He realizes now that Biden and Burisma are two separate things: one is okay (the latter he says), but the former is not.

Saying Burisma is okay contradicts Nunes, who went out of his way to call Burisma utterly corrupt.


I'm sure Burisma is corrupt: the owner was being investigated. However, it seems Volker now realizes that Trump didn't care about Burisma as much: he wanted to get dirt on Biden more than anything.

Also reportedly, Republicans are fearful of Sondland's testimony, especially if it gets revised. I'll wait and see what happens but right now, it seems Morrison and Volker, two witnesses Republicans wanted to testify, are hurting the GOP Talking Points now more than anything.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 3:20 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:So, what I'm reading is the fact that there are inconsistencies with Volker's Private Testimony and his Opening Statement now: he says he has learned a great new detail and seems to be revising some of his earlier statements. Looks like he'll be a less attracting option for the GOP now.

He also said that he "should have seen the Burisma investigation request differently" and appears to originally thought it was just Burisma. He realizes now that Biden and Burisma are two separate things: one is okay (the latter he says), but the former is not.

Saying Burisma is okay contradicts Nunes, who went out of his way to call Burisma utterly corrupt.

He also fell on the bullshit that Biden called for sacking Shokin to stop the investigation of Burisma when in reality Shokin was sitting on his ass.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:04 pm

I Predict that if or when the Democrats vote on articles of impeachment against President Trump and get It passed in the house. which will move the Process to the Senate. The Republicans who will be able to call any witnesses they wish. Will call Hunter Biden, Democrat Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella to testify in Public before the Senate.

If Eric Ciaramella really is the whistleblower the subpoena process will not let Eric Ciaramella testify because he is the whistleblower. But while we will probably not know the reasons why, it will by default prove Eric Ciaramella is the whistleblower. If he is not the whistleblower the subpoena process will call him to testify in Public before the Senate.

Perhaps even Joe Biden will be called by the Republicans to testify in the Senate.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:11 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I Predict that if or when the Democrats vote on articles of impeachment against President Trump and get It passed in the house. which will move the Process to the Senate. The Republicans who will be able to call any witnesses they wish. Will call Hunter Biden, Democrat Adam Schiff and Eric Ciaramella to testify in Public before the Senate.

If Eric Ciaramella really is the whistleblower the subpoena process will not let Eric Ciaramella testify because he is the whistleblower. But while we will probably not know the reasons why, it will by default prove Eric Ciaramella is the whistleblower. If he is not the whistleblower the subpoena process will call him to testify in Public before the Senate.

Perhaps even Joe Biden will be called by the Republicans to testify in the Senate.

Okay real talk: How come you always write "Democrat Adam Schiff" but you don't put the political party for anyone else?
Also why would the Bidens be called to testify? They have nothing to do with the incident itself.
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