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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:54 am

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San Lumen wrote:That doesn’t answer my inquiry. Can you please just admit there is nothing he can do that would make you not support him?

Now if Miguel Díaz-Canel wrote a kiss-ass letter to Trump and promised him a Trump Tower Havana to where he reopened Cuba in a carbon copy goldplated version of Obama's policy and talked about how wonderful the Castros were...

Gormwood this thread has nothing to do with the Castros so I will not talk about it and get my self in trouble.

What do you want President Trump to do against the charges of the Democrats against him?

What do you want the Republicans on the committee to do against the charges of the Democrats against President Trump?

I also ask this question of any anti Trump nation persons on nation states?

Thank you all for answering my questions if you wish?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:54 am

Zurkerx wrote:I also find it comical that the GOP held back information regarding that Vindman was offered a job to be Ukrainian Defence Minister, a position he turned down and reported to others. It seems the GOP is trying to paint Vindman as a "double agent" and attack his credibility that way, even creating sound bites for the Conservative Media. Hey, at least he was honest unlike some in the White House.


Funny how the only strategy the GOP has is direct character assassination.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:56 am

Vindman just hit the most important point:

As a matter of policy, we *always* tell other countries not to get involved in our domestic politics. Trump not only actively invited them to, he demanded it in exchange for vital aid.


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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:57 am

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Zurkerx wrote:I also find it comical that the GOP held back information regarding that Vindman was offered a job to be Ukrainian Defence Minister, a position he turned down and reported to others. It seems the GOP is trying to paint Vindman as a "double agent" and attack his credibility that way, even creating sound bites for the Conservative Media. Hey, at least he was honest unlike some in the White House.


Funny how the only strategy the GOP has is direct character assassination.

They can't even pound the table at this point. And act like giving Donnie a pass in the Senate will destroy the Democrats with Facts And Logic.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:05 am

Gormwood wrote:
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Funny how the only strategy the GOP has is direct character assassination.

They can't even pound the table at this point. And act like giving Donnie a pass in the Senate will destroy the Democrats with Facts And Lohic.

They don't have to pound the table like I once saw a Democrat pound the table and I posted about it on the other Trump impeachment thread. They are not deflecting anything, they are not showboating anything, they are trying to defend President Trump against the charges against him by the Democrats.

Please answer my 2 questions I posted above if you wish, that is your option to do so or to not do so? Thank you, and any one else is also welcomed to answer me those 2 questions? Thank you.

With facts and logic sounds logical to me.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:16 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Devon "Nude Pictures of Trump" fixating on the whistleblower making it clear the GOP wants to retaliate. And The Hill is becoming more visible as another FOXNews.

And now fixating on the Bidens and the Ukrainespiracy. Jesus Fucking Christ.

Gormwood President Trump and the Republicans are going to fight hard against the Democrats biased impeachment attempt, I would too if I were them, and you would too if you were them, under the same circumstances. Their is no other word to use than biased.


*shrugs* If he is guilty, it’s not bias.

If he is guilty, it will bite the other republicans in the ass. Well excluding those which support Russia now.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:17 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:I also find it comical that the GOP held back information regarding that Vindman was offered a job to be Ukrainian Defence Minister, a position he turned down and reported to others. It seems the GOP is trying to paint Vindman as a "double agent" and attack his credibility that way, even creating sound bites for the Conservative Media. Hey, at least he was honest unlike some in the White House.

I just heard Lt Alexander Vindham say to the consul he has not met with President Trump. Honest easy question who is the consul, what is his name, is he a Democrat or a Republican, I honestly don't know? thank you for answering me this question if you wish?


Who knows who the Whistleblower is. Hell they could have testified without us even knowing. And who cares about their name (which we have no right to know) or affiliation (which the inspector general that reviewed it, who's a Trump appointee, said political affiliation did not affect the complaint): their second hand to fourth hand information in the Complaint have been confirmed. Exposing them will lead to far fewer whistleblowers, especially if wrong doing happens in a Democrat Administration.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:21 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just heard Lt Alexander Vindham say to the consul he has not met with President Trump. Honest easy question who is the consul, what is his name, is he a Democrat or a Republican, I honestly don't know? thank you for answering me this question if you wish?


Who knows who the Whistleblower is. Hell they could have testified without us even knowing. And who cares about their name (which we have no right to know) or affiliation (which the inspector general that reviewed it, who's a Trump appointee, said political affiliation did not affect the complaint): their second hand to fourth hand information in the Complaint have been confirmed. Exposing them will lead to far fewer whistleblowers, especially if wrong doing happens in a Democrat Administration.

All I asked you for is the name of the consul I see asking questions to Alexander Vindham and Jennifer Williams, I still don't know? - I did not say anything about the whistleblower. I am not talking about the whistleblower in my question to you.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:22 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just heard Lt Alexander Vindham say to the consul he has not met with President Trump. Honest easy question who is the consul, what is his name, is he a Democrat or a Republican, I honestly don't know? thank you for answering me this question if you wish?


Who knows who the Whistleblower is. Hell they could have testified without us even knowing. And who cares about their name (which we have no right to know) or affiliation (which the inspector general that reviewed it, who's a Trump appointee, said political affiliation did not affect the complaint): their second hand to fourth hand information in the Complaint have been confirmed. Exposing them will lead to far fewer whistleblowers, especially if wrong doing happens in a Democrat Administration.


Assumption being the Reps care about that. Whistleblowing does go against the free market after all.

Let’s say the concept does take a hit and the next demos do something hanky. It will feed into their mantra of the deep state which wants to take everybodies guns, force people to watch gays kissing, allow gays to marry in churches and allow women and children to get attacked in non gender bathrooms.

I have heard people actually argue those claims :|
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:27 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Who knows who the Whistleblower is. Hell they could have testified without us even knowing. And who cares about their name (which we have no right to know) or affiliation (which the inspector general that reviewed it, who's a Trump appointee, said political affiliation did not affect the complaint): their second hand to fourth hand information in the Complaint have been confirmed. Exposing them will lead to far fewer whistleblowers, especially if wrong doing happens in a Democrat Administration.

All I asked you for is the name of the consul I see asking questions to Alexander Vindham and Jennifer Williams, I still don't know? - I did not say anything about the whistleblower,


You mean the lawyers for them? Oh, you mean the counsel or a counsellor. I have no clue to be honest. You confused me because consul is when an official appointed by a government to live in a foreign city and protect and promote the government's citizens and interests there.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:28 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:All I asked you for is the name of the consul I see asking questions to Alexander Vindham and Jennifer Williams, I still don't know? - I did not say anything about the whistleblower,


You mean the lawyers for them? Oh, you mean the counsel or a counsellor. I have no clue to be honest. You confused me because consul is when an official appointed by a government to live in a foreign city and protect and promote the government's citizens and interests there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Castor
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:30 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Who knows who the Whistleblower is. Hell they could have testified without us even knowing. And who cares about their name (which we have no right to know) or affiliation (which the inspector general that reviewed it, who's a Trump appointee, said political affiliation did not affect the complaint): their second hand to fourth hand information in the Complaint have been confirmed. Exposing them will lead to far fewer whistleblowers, especially if wrong doing happens in a Democrat Administration.


Assumption being the Reps care about that. Whistleblowing does go against the free market after all.

Let’s say the concept does take a hit and the next demos do something hanky. It will feed into their mantra of the deep state which wants to take everybodies guns, force people to watch gays kissing, allow gays to marry in churches and allow women and children to get attacked in non gender bathrooms.

I have heard people actually argue those claims :|


I really never associated the Free Market and Whistleblowing as something tied together. But these claims are rather interesting to say the least...
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:30 am

Farnhamia wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
You mean the lawyers for them? Oh, you mean the counsel or a counsellor. I have no clue to be honest. You confused me because consul is when an official appointed by a government to live in a foreign city and protect and promote the government's citizens and interests there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Castor

Thank you Farnhamia for understanding my question and answering my question with a link.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:33 am

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Zurkerx wrote:
You mean the lawyers for them? Oh, you mean the counsel or a counsellor. I have no clue to be honest. You confused me because consul is when an official appointed by a government to live in a foreign city and protect and promote the government's citizens and interests there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Castor


Ohh, that person. I thought he was talking about the supposed lawyers for the Vindman and Williams. Yeah, for the Republican side, it's Steve Castor while for the Democrats, it's Daniel Goldman.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:38 am

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Ohh, that person. I thought he was talking about the supposed lawyers for the Vindman and Williams. Yeah, for the Republican side, it's Steve Castor while for the Democrats, it's Daniel Goldman.

Thank you Zurkerx, now I know the Counsel or whatever for the Republican side is Steve Castor and for the Democrats side is Daniel Goldman. I now know more than I asked.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:39 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
Ohh, that person. I thought he was talking about the supposed lawyers for the Vindman and Williams. Yeah, for the Republican side, it's Steve Castor while for the Democrats, it's Daniel Goldman.

Thank you Zurkerx, now I know the Counsel or whatever for the Republican side is Steve Castor and for the Democrats side is Daniel Goldman.


No problem. I apologize for not understanding fully what you were asking. Hopefully this bit is cleared up now.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:41 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:Thank you Zurkerx, now I know the Counsel or whatever for the Republican side is Steve Castor and for the Democrats side is Daniel Goldman.


No problem. I apologize for not understanding fully what you were asking. Hopefully this bit is cleared up now.

Thank you Zurkerx now I know more than I asked, see my post above yours.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:16 am

Apparently all that matters today to the GOP is extracting the identity of the whistleblower by any means necessary. Even though as we've already established that won't actually do anything.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:20 am

Vassenor wrote:Apparently all that matters today to the GOP is extracting the identity of the whistleblower by any means necessary. Even though as we've already established that won't actually do anything.

They're just carrying out Trump's pettiness and trying to ruin his or her career as well as subject said whistleblower to verbal, written and possibly physical retaliation by the MAGAForce.
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Ah look, the White House is trying to question Vindman's judgment, by using the official White House Twitter Page. This is a complete misused of an official government account.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:33 am

Zurkerx wrote:Ah look, the White House is trying to question Vindman's judgment, by using the official White House Twitter Page. This is a complete misused of an official government account.

And republicans in Congress could care less

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Ah, seems Vindman and Williams testimony has wrapped up. Up next is Volker and Morrison, both of whom should fill in key holes and show a more favorable view of the President.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:46 am

Zurkerx wrote:Ah, seems Vindman and Williams testimony has wrapped up. Up next is Volker and Morrison, both of whom should fill in key holes and show a more favorable view of the President.

And drift back to Ukrainespiracy.
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Zurkerx wrote:Ah look, the White House is trying to question Vindman's judgment, by using the official White House Twitter Page. This is a complete misused of an official government account.

Damn. Just, damn.
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Postby Gormwood » Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:47 am

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Zurkerx wrote:Ah look, the White House is trying to question Vindman's judgment, by using the official White House Twitter Page. This is a complete misused of an official government account.

Damn. Just, damn.

Just emulating his authoritarian buddies.
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