MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[Neutraligon]

What does all this have to do with the impeachment?

Neutraligion, I tried to connected to the impeachment by my comment of: if President Trump is removed from office or resigns. Since Bear Stearns posted get ready for President Pence and wars in Iran and Venezuela. Implying President Trump might be removed from office by the impeachment process. So I stated I would love to see the Iran and Venezuelan regimes overthrown and the Cuban regime overthrown as well through a US Naval Blockade of Cuba. If Bear Sterns had not made the above comment I never would have brought up Iran, Venezuela or Cuba, my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons. This is how this whole thing got started. This is how these back and forth s got started.

As I am sure you would like to have those happen regardless they have nothing to do with the impeachment, please stay on topic.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Neutraligion, I tried to connected to the impeachment by my comment of: if President Trump is removed from office or resigns. Since Bear Stearns posted get ready for President Pence and wars in Iran and Venezuela. Implying President Trump might be removed from office by the impeachment process. So I stated I would love to see the Iran and Venezuelan regimes overthrown and the Cuban regime overthrown as well through a US Naval Blockade of Cuba. If Bear Sterns had not made the above comment I never would have brought up Iran, Venezuela or Cuba, my pet issue on NS for obvious reasons. This is how this whole thing got started. This is how these back and forth s got started.

As I am sure you would like to have those happen regardless they have nothing to do with the impeachment, please stay on topic.

ok Neutraligion understood and thank you.

GMS Alberto.

[Bear Stearns]

GET A REAL YANKEE IN THE WHITE HOUSE

[The Black Forrest]

Trump's aides eye moving impeachment witnesses out of White House jobs.

It's essentially a nice way of putting retaliation until those that have testified. At least these people won't be losing their jobs in government.

If this article is true, I strongly disagree. It is a nice way of cleaning house, clearing traitors and never Trumpers from President Trump's administration policies and goals, nothing to do with retaliation against those that have testified. I would do the same if I were President of the USA or any democratic nation like my native Cuba for example if it were a democratic nation, or any other democratic nation under the circumstances of traitors on my administration's policies and goals.

Traitors? Hardly; trump didn’t hire these “traitors”. Trump is the type of person who calls honest people traitors. The three who testified have far more integrity then the trump administration combined. They have served this country in many fashions. Trump only seeks to take from it.

You might want to stop with the simple minded “never trumpers” Labels are just a mark of a person who can’t argue. Trump is simple minded and uses them all the time.

Trump and his people are all about retaliation. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

Trump is a horrible leader. Traitor talk simply shows it.

[The Black Forrest]

Everybody say it with me

P R E S I D E N T
P E N C E

Lord he will actually be worse.

[Greater Miami Shores]

According to God Rep Doug Collins from Georgia, the Founding Fathers of America (the USA) warned us against a Political impeachment, even though it is on the US constitution. I don't know if my fellow Republican is being a hypocrite or not, since I don't know if he supported my fellow Republicans impeachment of Democrat President Bill Clinton for political reasons against President Clinton, not for justice in America. I have not yet checked out if he supported or opposed Democrat President Bill Clinton's impeachment or not. If he supported it, then he is being a hypocrite.

But I just right now read the whole article not just the headline. He seems to be saying the same thing I am saying about the Democrats against President Trump.

But as I have stated President Trump has not done anything wrong and the Democrats have not proven he did anything wrong and worth impeaching him for.

GOP Rep. Collins: The Founding Fathers Warned Us Against a Political Impeachment

Monday on Fox News Channel’s “The Story,” Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA), the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, sounded off on the impeachment efforts waged by congressional Democrats against President Donald Trump.

When quizzed by host Martha MacCallum about the legalities of Trump’s actions, Collins chalked it up to disagreement with Trump’s politics and said the Democratic impeachment inquiry was something the Founding Fathers warned against.

“[W]e got a bigger problem here, Martha, because again, this is with the Founding Fathers actually warned us against was a political impeachment in which you just go after him because you don’t like him, or because you don’t like their politics.

This is a problem we have to face. And the American people need to see this clearly for what it is. We can ask questions. However, we want to, but Adam Schiff is controlling this narrative because he wants one side out.

Now, look, this thing is not over. We’re going to continue to see a lot of witnesses this week. We’re going to see a lot of them who are going to be interesting at some contradictions and seeing the fact that what was happening here and the focus of what the president did.”

“Let’s get this back to what the president did,” Collins added. “Not the theatrics around it. If he wants to remove somebody, he can. It’s his job. He can remove an ambassador whenever he wants to. He could have differences of opinion with his own State Department or even his own Defense Department.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/11 ... peachment/

I like the fact this is a short article not one of my usual long articles. I always like to make a comment related to the post at the end of the article for separation of the text of the boxes from the post. I have a very visual problem I hate.

[The Rich Port]

Yeah it's all fun and games until he tries to pull some bullshit to repeal gay marriage.

Well, at least he'll be easier to impeach. Nobody likes him except Evangelicals.

>this is what liberals actually believe

You guys said George Bush was going to make us a theocracy and before that that Dan Quayle was going to do the same.

Well I mean... Under Bush, we didn't have gay marriage, did we.

He coulda been the guy, but nooooooo. He just had to be the dummy who invaded Iraq.

[The Black Forrest]

According to God Rep Doug Collins from Georgia, the Founding Fathers of America (the USA) warned us against a Political impeachment, even thought it is on the US constitution. I don't know if my fellow Republican is being a hypocrite or not, since I don't know if he supported my fellow Republicans impeachment of Democrat President Bill Clinton for political reasons against President Clinton, not for justice in America. I have not yet checked out if supported or opposed Democrat President Bill Clinton's impeachment or not. If he supported it, then he is being a hypocrite.

But I just right now read the whole article not just the headline. He seems to be saying the same thing I am saying about the Democrats against President Trump.

But as I have stated President Trump has not done anything wrong and the Democrats have not proven he did anything wrong and worth impeaching him for.

GOP Rep. Collins: The Founding Fathers Warned Us Against a Political Impeachment

Monday on Fox News Channel’s “The Story,” Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA), the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, sounded off on the impeachment efforts waged by congressional Democrats against President Donald Trump.

When quizzed by host Martha MacCallum about the legalities of Trump’s actions, Collins chalked it up to disagreement with Trump’s politics and said the Democratic impeachment inquiry was something the Founding Fathers warned against.

“[W]e got a bigger problem here, Martha, because again, this is with the Founding Fathers actually warned us against was a political impeachment in which you just go after him because you don’t like him, or because you don’t like their politics.

This is a problem we have to face. And the American people need to see this clearly for what it is. We can ask questions. However, we want to, but Adam Schiff is controlling this narrative because he wants one side out.

Now, look, this thing is not over. We’re going to continue to see a lot of witnesses this week. We’re going to see a lot of them who are going to be interesting at some contradictions and seeing the fact that what was happening here and the focus of what the president did.”

“Let’s get this back to what the president did,” Collins added. “Not the theatrics around it. If he wants to remove somebody, he can. It’s his job. He can remove an ambassador whenever he wants to. He could have differences of opinion with his own State Department or even his own Defense Department.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/11 ... peachment/

I like the fact this is a short article not one of my usual long articles. I always like to make a comment related to the post at the end of the article for separation of the text of the boxes from the post. I have a very visual problem I hate.

Actually the Founding Fathers warned us against somebody like Trump.

Notice he didn’t provide a source?

[San Montalbano]

If this article is true, I strongly disagree. It is a nice way of cleaning house, clearing traitors and never Trumpers from President Trump's administration policies and goals, nothing to do with retaliation against those that have testified. I would do the same if I were President of the USA or any democratic nation like my native Cuba for example if it were a democratic nation, or any other democratic nation under the circumstances of traitors on my administration's policies and goals.

Traitors? Hardly; trump didn’t hire these “traitors”. Trump is the type of person who calls honest people traitors. The three who testified have far more integrity then the trump administration combined. They have served this country in many fashions. Trump only seeks to take from it.

You might want to stop with the simple minded “never trumpers” Labels are just a mark of a person who can’t argue. Trump is simple minded and uses them all the time.

Trump and his people are all about retaliation. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

Trump is a horrible leader. Traitor talk simply shows it.

the entire DNC and it's missions is quite literally retaliation, I mean it's entire campaign and it's candidates pretty much all say that getting rid of him is the number 1 priority

so that is quite delicious

[The Black Forrest]

Traitors? Hardly; trump didn’t hire these “traitors”. Trump is the type of person who calls honest people traitors. The three who testified have far more integrity then the trump administration combined. They have served this country in many fashions. Trump only seeks to take from it.

You might want to stop with the simple minded “never trumpers” Labels are just a mark of a person who can’t argue. Trump is simple minded and uses them all the time.

Trump and his people are all about retaliation. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous.

Trump is a horrible leader. Traitor talk simply shows it.

the entire DNC and it's missions is quite literally retaliation, I mean it's entire campaign and it's candidates pretty much all say that getting rid of him is the number 1 priority

so that is quite delicious

That is true impeachment for violations of office is retaliation.

[San Montalbano]

the entire DNC and it's missions is quite literally retaliation, I mean it's entire campaign and it's candidates pretty much all say that getting rid of him is the number 1 priority

so that is quite delicious

That is true impeachment for violations of office is retaliation.

lol no, way before impeachment was officially brought up it was still the goal

I mean the "anon witness" attorney literally tweeted that the "coup" was on.

[Greater Miami Shores]

According to God Rep Doug Collins from Georgia, the Founding Fathers of America (the USA) warned us against a Political impeachment, even thought it is on the US constitution. I don't know if my fellow Republican is being a hypocrite or not, since I don't know if he supported my fellow Republicans impeachment of Democrat President Bill Clinton for political reasons against President Clinton, not for justice in America. I have not yet checked out if supported or opposed Democrat President Bill Clinton's impeachment or not. If he supported it, then he is being a hypocrite.

But I just right now read the whole article not just the headline. He seems to be saying the same thing I am saying about the Democrats against President Trump.

But as I have stated President Trump has not done anything wrong and the Democrats have not proven he did anything wrong and worth impeaching him for.

GOP Rep. Collins: The Founding Fathers Warned Us Against a Political Impeachment

Monday on Fox News Channel’s “The Story,” Rep. Doug Collins (R-GA), the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, sounded off on the impeachment efforts waged by congressional Democrats against President Donald Trump.

When quizzed by host Martha MacCallum about the legalities of Trump’s actions, Collins chalked it up to disagreement with Trump’s politics and said the Democratic impeachment inquiry was something the Founding Fathers warned against.

“[W]e got a bigger problem here, Martha, because again, this is with the Founding Fathers actually warned us against was a political impeachment in which you just go after him because you don’t like him, or because you don’t like their politics.

This is a problem we have to face. And the American people need to see this clearly for what it is. We can ask questions. However, we want to, but Adam Schiff is controlling this narrative because he wants one side out.

Now, look, this thing is not over. We’re going to continue to see a lot of witnesses this week. We’re going to see a lot of them who are going to be interesting at some contradictions and seeing the fact that what was happening here and the focus of what the president did.”

“Let’s get this back to what the president did,” Collins added. “Not the theatrics around it. If he wants to remove somebody, he can. It’s his job. He can remove an ambassador whenever he wants to. He could have differences of opinion with his own State Department or even his own Defense Department.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2019/11 ... peachment/

I like the fact this is a short article not one of my usual long articles. I always like to make a comment related to the post at the end of the article for separation of the text of the boxes from the post. I have a very visual problem I hate.

Actually the Founding Fathers warned us against somebody like Trump.

Notice he didn’t provide a source?

Yes I see he didn't provide a source, he should have provided a source. I respect your views on Trump and the impeachment and your right to post them, as I respect all my fellow nation persons right to do so.

[The Black Forrest]

That is true impeachment for violations of office is retaliation.

lol no, way before impeachment was officially brought up it was still the goal

I mean the "anon witness" attorney literally tweeted that the "coup" was on.

*shrugs* if trump was honest and smarter; the demos would have anything.

Source on the tweet?

[San Montalbano]

lol no, way before impeachment was officially brought up it was still the goal

I mean the "anon witness" attorney literally tweeted that the "coup" was on.

*shrugs* if trump was honest and smarter; the demos would have anything.

Source on the tweet?

Honestly, I can't even seem to find anything about the whistle blower himself, I tried looking on google and it seems that any trace him or his attorney is gone.

So I guess I have to concede for now

[The Black Forrest]

*shrugs* if trump was honest and smarter; the demos would have anything.

Source on the tweet?

Honestly, I can't even seem to find anything about the whistle blower himself, I tried looking on google and it seems that any trace him or his attorney is gone.

So I guess I have to concede for now

No worries. “Interpretations” are found on the Net all the time.

[The Black Forrest]

*snip*. Opps....

[San Montalbano]

Honestly, I can't even seem to find anything about the whistle blower himself, I tried looking on google and it seems that any trace him or his attorney is gone.

So I guess I have to concede for now

No worries. “Interpretations” are found on the Net all the time.

I don't know what your getting at, I mean I literally can't find the guy on google, i don't know if google is running defence or what, but it is what it is.

[Greater Miami Shores]

the entire DNC and it's missions is quite literally retaliation, I mean it's entire campaign and it's candidates pretty much all say that getting rid of him is the number 1 priority

so that is quite delicious

That is true impeachment for violations of office is retaliation.

I use the never Trumpers label and the anti Trumpers label which I prefer and will use from now on, because of my views and my fellow Republicans views that this impeachment process against President Trump is for political reasons not for justice in America. But I strongly agree with San Montalbano's comment above, it is what we Republicans and Trump supporters think. We are not the only ones, this is what Democrats and anti Trumpers don't seem to understand.

Here again I felt no choice but to repeat myself as I think it fits the post, a so called bad habit of mine I don't do by intent, sorry my bad.

[San Montalbano]

That is true impeachment for violations of office is retaliation.

I use the never Trumpers label and the anti Trumpers label which I prefer and will use from now on, because of my views and my fellow Republicans views that this impeachment process against President Trump is for political reasons not justice in America. But I strongly agree with San Montalbano's comment above, it is what we Republicans and Trump supporters think.

Here again I felt no choice but to repeat myself as I think it fits the post, a so called bad habit of mine I don't do by intent, sorry my bad.

Multiple members, high ranking ones at that, including almost every major democratic candidate, including media related talking heads whom align themselves with the DNC, have all called for the ousting of Trump, before even the hearing began.

something about " By any means necessary"

[Greater Miami Shores]

I use the never Trumpers label and the anti Trumpers label which I prefer (and it is easier to say and understand now corrected on my original post) and will use from now on, because of my views and my fellow Republicans views that this impeachment process against President Trump is for political reasons not justice in America. But I strongly agree with San Montalbano's comment above, it is what we Republicans and Trump supporters think. (corrected on original post - we are not the only ones, this is what Democrats and anti Trumpers don't seem to understand.

Here again I felt no choice but to repeat myself as I think it fits the post, a so called bad habit of mine I don't do by intent, sorry my bad.

Multiple members, high ranking ones at that, including almost every major democratic candidate, including media related talking heads whom align themselves with the DNC, have all called for the ousting of Trump, before even the hearing began.

something about " By any means necessary"

I agree one 100 % with your post San Montalbano, these are our views as Republicans and Trump supporters, this is what Democrats don't seem to understand. Because to them President Trump is a guilty corrupt crook, that needs to be impeached and convicted out of office, and their is nothing wrong with that from their own personal political perspectives. just as their is nothing wrong with our support and views on President Trump and the impeachment by the Democrats

[The Black Forrest]

That is true impeachment for violations of office is retaliation.

I use the never Trumpers label and the anti Trumpers label which I prefer and will use from now on, because of my views and my fellow Republicans views that this impeachment process against President Trump is for political reasons not for justice in America. But I strongly agree with San Montalbano's comment above, it is what we Republicans and Trump supporters think. We are not the only ones, this is what Democrats and anti Trumpers don't seem to understand.

Here again I felt no choice but to repeat myself as I think it fits the post, a so called bad habit of mine I don't do by intent, sorry my bad.

For the 10 billionth time. Impeachment is a political process. Saying ‘it’s being done for political reasons” is simple minded.

The impeachment inquiry only get’s more traction because trump is too stupid to work it. Attacking credible people only hurts his image and his cause. For example; a draft dodger has no right to impugn a solder who has been in combat and was awarded a purple heart.

[San Montalbano]

I use the never Trumpers label and the anti Trumpers label which I prefer and will use from now on, because of my views and my fellow Republicans views that this impeachment process against President Trump is for political reasons not for justice in America. But I strongly agree with San Montalbano's comment above, it is what we Republicans and Trump supporters think. We are not the only ones, this is what Democrats and anti Trumpers don't seem to understand.

Here again I felt no choice but to repeat myself as I think it fits the post, a so called bad habit of mine I don't do by intent, sorry my bad.

For the 10 billionth time. Impeachment is a political process. Saying ‘it’s being done for political reasons” is simple minded.

The impeachment inquiry only get’s more traction because trump is too stupid to work it. Attacking credible people only hurts his image and his cause. For example; a draft dodger has no right to impugn a solder who has been in combat and was awarded a purple heart.

which is why it shouldn't be trusted because it's not a legal process but a purley political one, there is no objective truth except for literal political positions people are taking.

They could all vote that Trump is a space alien and not need any real proof to impeach him for it, they just need a majority. They don't NEED any real proof.

this should trouble everyone that a president can intentionally be removed this way, guilty or innocent, republican or democrat etc etc

[The Black Forrest]

I use the never Trumpers label and the anti Trumpers label which I prefer and will use from now on, because of my views and my fellow Republicans views that this impeachment process against President Trump is for political reasons not justice in America. But I strongly agree with San Montalbano's comment above, it is what we Republicans and Trump supporters think.

Here again I felt no choice but to repeat myself as I think it fits the post, a so called bad habit of mine I don't do by intent, sorry my bad.

Multiple members, high ranking ones at that, including almost every major democratic candidate, including media related talking heads whom align themselves with the DNC, have all called for the ousting of Trump, before even the hearing began.

something about " By any means necessary"

Politicians say the darndest things.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I use the never Trumpers label and the anti Trumpers label which I prefer and will use from now on, because of my views and my fellow Republicans views that this impeachment process against President Trump is for political reasons not for justice in America. But I strongly agree with San Montalbano's comment above, it is what we Republicans and Trump supporters think. We are not the only ones, this is what Democrats and anti Trumpers don't seem to understand.

Here again I felt no choice but to repeat myself as I think it fits the post, a so called bad habit of mine I don't do by intent, sorry my bad.

For the 10 billionth time. Impeachment is a political process. Saying ‘it’s being done for political reasons” is simple minded.

The impeachment inquiry only get’s more traction because trump is too stupid to work it. Attacking credible people only hurts his image and his cause. For example; a draft dodger has no right to impugn a solder who has been in combat and was awarded a purple heart.

For the 10 billionth time, we agree impeachment is a political process, but the Democrats are doing it for biased political reasons against Republican President Trump, not for justice in America. This is the political view point of us Republicans and Trump supporters, we say Democrats and anti Trumpers don't seem to understand.

I agree with you he can use better and different tactics to defend himself against the Democrats. I wish he were a gentleman like Republican President Ronald Reagan. But this is impossible from President Trump.

Again I had no choice but to repeat myself for which I get constantly criticized by my fellow nation persons.

[The Black Forrest]

For the 10 billionth time. Impeachment is a political process. Saying ‘it’s being done for political reasons” is simple minded.

The impeachment inquiry only get’s more traction because trump is too stupid to work it. Attacking credible people only hurts his image and his cause. For example; a draft dodger has no right to impugn a solder who has been in combat and was awarded a purple heart.

which is why it shouldn't be trusted because it's not a legal process but a purley political one, there is no objective truth except for literal political positions people are taking.

They could all vote that Trump is a space alien and not need any real proof to impeach him for it, they just need a majority. They don't NEED any real proof.

this should trouble everyone that a president can intentionally be removed this way, guilty or innocent, republican or democrat etc etc

The problem with a “legal” solution is the fact many think you can’t file charges against a sitting president.

The impeachment process is fine. Only two presidents have been impeached. Clinton and Andrew Johnson. Only two have faced it. Nixon and Trump.