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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:32 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
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Again ignoreing my other posts that Japan and India have less infected then the US.

Again you are deflecting criticism because orange man good.


He never said orange man good, stop manipulating his words.

It's orange man God. You accidentally hit O twice.

:lol: ok you got me there thats a fair point.

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Again ignoreing my other posts that Japan and India have less infected then the US.

Again you are deflecting criticism because orange man good.


Yes, ignoring information which isn't relevant is generally a good idea.

No, I'm deflecting criticism because the criticism is predicated upon invalid sources.


I could see a case for India not being the US's contemporary but Japan not being contemporary with the US? Bruh.

Apparently the cdc isn't a good enough sause anymore.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:32 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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It would seem to me that the government response, rather screwed up or not caused relatively little effect in contemporary nations. We see most of europe suffering similar rates, despite different degrees of response.


EU peeked already my dude. US hasn't.


And?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:33 pm

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EU peeked already my dude. US hasn't.


And?


The rate of infections in the EU will slow down while the US goes faster.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:34 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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And?


The rate of infections in the EU will slow down while the US goes faster.


Yes, I know what the use of the word "peaked" means, but why is that a relevant point?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:38 pm

Telconi wrote:
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The rate of infections in the EU will slow down while the US goes faster.


Yes, I know what the use of the word "peaked" means, but why is that a relevant point?


The US will continue to be number one in the world for virus cases while other nations slow down.

Proveing Trump's response to the whole thing was stupid and horrible beacuse he lied about the virus and now the US is paying the price for his stupidity. Stupidity born out of a want to say the whole thing was a dem hoax.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:42 am

Trump reverses course, says it's 'too soon' for Georgia Gov. Kemp to reopen state

But blue states need to reopen to the point he openly called for insurrection in them. Hooow consistent.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:52 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Yes, I know what the use of the word "peaked" means, but why is that a relevant point?


The US will continue to be number one in the world for virus cases while other nations slow down.

Proveing Trump's response to the whole thing was stupid and horrible beacuse he lied about the virus and now the US is paying the price for his stupidity. Stupidity born out of a want to say the whole thing was a dem hoax.


Or maybe, it's because the American Public is part of a free nation and that has consequences like 'People being able to spread the Virus around all day long?'
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Postby Juristonia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:53 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The US will continue to be number one in the world for virus cases while other nations slow down.

Proveing Trump's response to the whole thing was stupid and horrible beacuse he lied about the virus and now the US is paying the price for his stupidity. Stupidity born out of a want to say the whole thing was a dem hoax.


Or maybe, it's because the American Public is part of a free nation and that has consequences like 'People being able to spread the Virus around all day long?'

I mean, so is most, if not all, of Europe, and we're mostly seeing slow downs here, so..
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Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.

And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:55 am

Juristonia wrote:
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Or maybe, it's because the American Public is part of a free nation and that has consequences like 'People being able to spread the Virus around all day long?'

I mean, so is most, if not all, of Europe, and we're mostly seeing slow downs here, so..


:rofl: Europe a free nation.... :rofl:
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:09 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I mean, so is most, if not all, of Europe, and we're mostly seeing slow downs here, so..


:rofl: Europe a free nation.... :rofl:

Do you think Europeans don’t like to walk around the street in exactly the same manner that Americans do? Or is there some hidden Street Freedom that Americans enjoy but Europeans don’t?

Because, you know, in Europe, bodily autonomy is largely codified. The US has nothing similar.
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Postby Gormwood » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:15 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
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:rofl: Europe a free nation.... :rofl:

Do you think Europeans don’t like to walk around the street in exactly the same manner that Americans do? Or is there some hidden Street Freedom that Americans enjoy but Europeans don’t?

Because, you know, in Europe, bodily autonomy is largely codified. The US has nothing similar.

"Freedom" = "Open accesibility to bang-bangs no matter how troubling your mental history"
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:16 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Do you think Europeans don’t like to walk around the street in exactly the same manner that Americans do? Or is there some hidden Street Freedom that Americans enjoy but Europeans don’t?

Because, you know, in Europe, bodily autonomy is largely codified. The US has nothing similar.

"Freedom" = "Open accesibility to bang-bangs no matter how troubling your mental history"

Which, of course makes you more susceptible to disease somehow.
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Postby Juristonia » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:17 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote: :rofl: Europe a free nation.... :rofl:

Normally you at least try to form some kind of counter argument, even if not a very good one.
You must've been really hard pressed to think of one here.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.

And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:18 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Gormwood wrote:"Freedom" = "Open accesibility to bang-bangs no matter how troubling your mental history"

Which, of course makes you more susceptible to disease somehow.

Sissy Europeans' fault they don't arm themselves to shoot coronavirus or its carriers. /s
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:38 pm

Juristonia wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote: :rofl: Europe a free nation.... :rofl:

Normally you at least try to form some kind of counter argument, even if not a very good one.
You must've been really hard pressed to think of one here.


Not really. My point is simple. Europeans by and large are not anywhere near as rebellious a populace at basic default as Americans.

Americans, for the most part, want the government to fuck off and leave them alone. Most peoples response, even at the state level when everything was shut down, was to treat this like a vacation. Not like a deadly infectious pandemic. Not because 'Trump Botched it' but because we're Americans. It's a nation where people on the regular do things that will kill you given time, under the notion that maybe it won't kill them because it will all work out.

Europe, on the other hand is both more pessimistic on average and also less outright rebellious of government edicts, while also having more teeth to those edicts because you lack basic freedoms, with your average european nation's acknowledgements of human rights having more holes in them than swiss cheese.

Europe is not free in any sense of the word.
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Postby Duvniask » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:41 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Juristonia wrote:I mean, so is most, if not all, of Europe, and we're mostly seeing slow downs here, so..


:rofl: Europe a free nation.... :rofl:

Americans take pride in the most retarded things.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:47 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Juristonia wrote:Normally you at least try to form some kind of counter argument, even if not a very good one.
You must've been really hard pressed to think of one here.


Not really. My point is simple. Europeans by and large are not anywhere near as rebellious a populace at basic default as Americans.

Americans, for the most part, want the government to fuck off and leave them alone. Most peoples response, even at the state level when everything was shut down, was to treat this like a vacation. Not like a deadly infectious pandemic. Not because 'Trump Botched it' but because we're Americans. It's a nation where people on the regular do things that will kill you given time, under the notion that maybe it won't kill them because it will all work out.

Europe, on the other hand is both more pessimistic on average and also less outright rebellious of government edicts, while also having more teeth to those edicts because you lack basic freedoms, with your average european nation's acknowledgements of human rights having more holes in them than swiss cheese.

Europe is not free in any sense of the word.

You can disagree about the level of freedoms between Europe and the US. You seem to base your views on basic American exceptionalist propaganda. You don’t even provide arguments. You’re basically saying that Americans are more free because they’re Americans. Although, you put Americans in italics, so that makes it more convincing.

But pretending like Europe is not free in any sense of the word, while Europeans have freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and more codified freedoms than Americans, is just absurd.
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:49 pm

Duvniask wrote:
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:rofl: Europe a free nation.... :rofl:

Americans take pride in the most retarded things.


Sounds like you come from a country second place in infections, loser 8)
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:51 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Not really. My point is simple. Europeans by and large are not anywhere near as rebellious a populace at basic default as Americans.

Americans, for the most part, want the government to fuck off and leave them alone. Most peoples response, even at the state level when everything was shut down, was to treat this like a vacation. Not like a deadly infectious pandemic. Not because 'Trump Botched it' but because we're Americans. It's a nation where people on the regular do things that will kill you given time, under the notion that maybe it won't kill them because it will all work out.

Europe, on the other hand is both more pessimistic on average and also less outright rebellious of government edicts, while also having more teeth to those edicts because you lack basic freedoms, with your average european nation's acknowledgements of human rights having more holes in them than swiss cheese.

Europe is not free in any sense of the word.

You can disagree about the level of freedoms between Europe and the US. You seem to base your views on basic American exceptionalist propaganda. You don’t even provide arguments. You’re basically saying that Americans are more free because they’re Americans. Although, you put Americans in italics, so that makes it more convincing.

But pretending like Europe is not free in any sense of the word, while Europeans have freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and more codified freedoms than Americans, is just absurd.


You forget the importance of being able to teach a dog to salute when you say Nazi phrases.

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Postby Gormwood » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:51 pm

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Not really. My point is simple. Europeans by and large are not anywhere near as rebellious a populace at basic default as Americans.

Americans, for the most part, want the government to fuck off and leave them alone. Most peoples response, even at the state level when everything was shut down, was to treat this like a vacation. Not like a deadly infectious pandemic. Not because 'Trump Botched it' but because we're Americans. It's a nation where people on the regular do things that will kill you given time, under the notion that maybe it won't kill them because it will all work out.

Europe, on the other hand is both more pessimistic on average and also less outright rebellious of government edicts, while also having more teeth to those edicts because you lack basic freedoms, with your average european nation's acknowledgements of human rights having more holes in them than swiss cheese.

Europe is not free in any sense of the word.

You can disagree about the level of freedoms between Europe and the US. You seem to base your views on basic American exceptionalist propaganda. You don’t even provide arguments. You’re basically saying that Americans are more free because they’re Americans. Although, you put Americans in italics, so that makes it more convincing.

But pretending like Europe is not free in any sense of the word, while Europeans have freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and more codified freedoms than Americans, is just absurd.

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Postby Duvniask » Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:53 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Duvniask wrote:Americans take pride in the most retarded things.


Sounds like you come from a country second place in infections, loser 8)

We're literally witnessing someone taking pride in how they can go about their business whilst spreading a deadly virus that could kill millions of his fellow countrymen. "Marg bar Āmrikā", except the Americans are doing it to themselves.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:06 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
The US will continue to be number one in the world for virus cases while other nations slow down.

Proveing Trump's response to the whole thing was stupid and horrible beacuse he lied about the virus and now the US is paying the price for his stupidity. Stupidity born out of a want to say the whole thing was a dem hoax.


Or maybe, it's because the American Public is part of a free nation and that has consequences like 'People being able to spread the Virus around all day long?'


Ignoreing the above nonsense of Europe not being free in this post, again you ignore a post of mine that was directed at you.

Beacuse why the hell is Japan, a nation that in its current state was rebuilt entirely by America, is a large nation with a hundred million people in it, have less cases then the US?

Japan is also more crowded then the US and is free so why does Japan have less cases then the US when they are also a free people?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Juristonia wrote:Normally you at least try to form some kind of counter argument, even if not a very good one.
You must've been really hard pressed to think of one here.


Not really. My point is simple. Europeans by and large are not anywhere near as rebellious a populace at basic default as Americans.

Americans, for the most part, want the government to fuck off and leave them alone. Most peoples response, even at the state level when everything was shut down, was to treat this like a vacation. Not like a deadly infectious pandemic. Not because 'Trump Botched it' but because we're Americans. It's a nation where people on the regular do things that will kill you given time, under the notion that maybe it won't kill them because it will all work out.

Europe, on the other hand is both more pessimistic on average and also less outright rebellious of government edicts, while also having more teeth to those edicts because you lack basic freedoms, with your average european nation's acknowledgements of human rights having more holes in them than swiss cheese.

Europe is not free in any sense of the word.

Where was the outcry from the American right wing then when Trump said the authority is total?

Your response reads more like "The EU isn't free beacuse I feel like it isn't free".

And even then your logic hits a road block where Poland, a place where the right wing is going nuts so it has some of that badly defined brand of ""freedom"" your going on about, has less cases then the US.


Also I must point out that putting random words in italics doesn't make your post's logic any more sound.

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Postby Nakena » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:14 pm

@Derpy

This is as pointless as argueing the validity and unfailaibility of the Quran with a true believer in islam.

Just in this case it is an secular thingy.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:16 pm

And thus 300+ years down the line the American constitution, or the public perception of it is fast becoming a suicide pact.

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