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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:13 pm

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Not really hate more disappointed in there leadership. They have also fucked up there COVID-19 response. Just not as bad as Trump.


So dying people aren't as bad as being orange. Got it.


So massive amounts of infected people with a deadly disease should be ignored because must deflect criticism of glorious leader. Got it.

I also love how you ignored how I said that there response to the virus was also bad just not as bad as Trump's writing the whole thing off as a hoax.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:26 pm

Any comparison of infection rates is going to be complicated by needing to compare testing levels as well.

Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Italy, and Switzerland do have higher rates of infection and death than the US, but the US has lower testing rates than those nations. As an example the US has 600 fewer infections per million than Italy, but the US has 11,000 less tests per million as well. Switzerland has 400 more cases per million but over twice the testing per million.

In addition while the peak appears to have passed in Europe that is not so clear in the US.
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:27 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:Any comparison of infection rates is going to be complicated by needing to compare testing levels as well.

Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Italy, and Switzerland do have higher rates of infection and death than the US, but the US has lower testing rates than those nations. As an example the US has 600 fewer infections per million than Italy, but the US has 11,000 less tests per million as well. Switzerland has 400 more cases by pollution but over twice the testing per million.

In addition while the peak appears to have passed in Europe that is not so clear in the US.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:29 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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So dying people aren't as bad as being orange. Got it.


So massive amounts of infected people with a deadly disease should be ignored because must deflect criticism of glorious leader. Got it.


You should stick to attacking beliefs I actually have.

I also love how you ignored how I said that there response to the virus was also bad just not as bad as Trump's writing the whole thing off as a hoax.


Mocking something you've said is distinctly different from ignoring it.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:30 pm

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Spirit of Hope wrote:Any comparison of infection rates is going to be complicated by needing to compare testing levels as well.

Spain, Belgium, Ireland, Italy, and Switzerland do have higher rates of infection and death than the US, but the US has lower testing rates than those nations. As an example the US has 600 fewer infections per million than Italy, but the US has 11,000 less tests per million as well. Switzerland has 400 more cases by pollution but over twice the testing per million.

In addition while the peak appears to have passed in Europe that is not so clear in the US.

You need to be patient. Jared Kushner is only just one man.


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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:37 pm

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So massive amounts of infected people with a deadly disease should be ignored because must deflect criticism of glorious leader. Got it.


You should stick to attacking beliefs I actually have.

I also love how you ignored how I said that there response to the virus was also bad just not as bad as Trump's writing the whole thing off as a hoax.


Mocking something you've said is distinctly different from ignoring it.


So your posts that are desperately deflecting valid criticism away from Trump aren't desperately deflecting valid criticism away from Trump?

Except that the mocking you posted didn't make sense.
You are obsessed with Trump being orange when I never said word one about it.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:40 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
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You should stick to attacking beliefs I actually have.



Mocking something you've said is distinctly different from ignoring it.


So your posts that are desperately deflecting valid criticism away from Trump aren't desperately deflecting valid criticism away from Trump?

Except that the mocking you posted didn't make sense.
You are obsessed with Trump being orange when I never said word one about it.


I haven't made any posts deflecting valid criticism from Trump.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:47 pm

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So your posts that are desperately deflecting valid criticism away from Trump aren't desperately deflecting valid criticism away from Trump?

Except that the mocking you posted didn't make sense.
You are obsessed with Trump being orange when I never said word one about it.


I haven't made any posts deflecting valid criticism from Trump.




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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Aside from the twitter boomer thing, what is there left to say at this point about Trump?

His lying lead to Americans dieing. His presidency has been a massive failure as he lead America to being the number one virus hotspot on earth with the biggest unemployment numbers in decades.


Why are we the number one hotspot when Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, The UK, Netherlands. Switzerland, and Ireland all have higher rates of fatalities?

Is it because "Orange man bad?" Or do you have a reasonable explanation?



end of flash back

Review the facts. The USA is number one in the world for virus infections. Trump lead the US there with his lies of how bad the virus is.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:54 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I haven't made any posts deflecting valid criticism from Trump.




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Why are we the number one hotspot when Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, The UK, Netherlands. Switzerland, and Ireland all have higher rates of fatalities?

Is it because "Orange man bad?" Or do you have a reasonable explanation?



end of flash back

Review the facts. The USA is number one in the world for virus infections. Trump lead the US there with his lies of how bad the virus is.


I mean he is kinda right you know. We don't have the highest rate of infection in America, just the highest total number of cases.
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:55 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:


Flashback




end of flash back

Review the facts. The USA is number one in the world for virus infections. Trump lead the US there with his lies of how bad the virus is.


I mean he is kinda right you know. We don't have the highest rate of infection in America, just the highest total number of cases.


We don't actually know that for sure, since the rate of testing between the US and other countries isn't even comparable.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:56 pm

Valrifell wrote:
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I mean he is kinda right you know. We don't have the highest rate of infection in America, just the highest total number of cases.


We don't actually know that for sure, since the rate of testing between the US and other countries isn't even comparable.


The current rate of infection we know of isn't highest. The true rate is probably unknown, and may be 110% different.

I think it's premature to say that we did the worst job with this virus. I mean clearly Turkmenistan isn't doing the best job protecting its citizens from harm, and then there's South Africa:

https://youtu.be/wp68jcpDqOo

https://youtu.be/OwADR4p0gfQ

https://youtu.be/EcBJd9SUp4k

https://youtu.be/U_bUpN52Iyw

https://youtu.be/F1ckWOBulJE

https://youtu.be/EJqGZMzYLM0

https://youtu.be/ZiDIOu4sJ5M

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/13/south-a ... kdown.html

We did a shit job. But worst, I don't believe so.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 3:57 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I haven't made any posts deflecting valid criticism from Trump.




Flashback

Telconi wrote:
Why are we the number one hotspot when Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, The UK, Netherlands. Switzerland, and Ireland all have higher rates of fatalities?

Is it because "Orange man bad?" Or do you have a reasonable explanation?



end of flash back

Review the facts. The USA is number one in the world for virus infections. Trump lead the US there with his lies of how bad the virus is.


If we're going to have flashbacks, can they be to something relevant to the subject?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:00 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:


Flashback




end of flash back

Review the facts. The USA is number one in the world for virus infections. Trump lead the US there with his lies of how bad the virus is.


I mean he is kinda right you know. We don't have the highest rate of infection in America, just the highest total number of cases.


Right and that would also be the highest number of infections not highest infection rate.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:01 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:


Flashback




end of flash back

Review the facts. The USA is number one in the world for virus infections. Trump lead the US there with his lies of how bad the virus is.


If we're going to have flashbacks, can they be to something relevant to the subject?

This entire thing has been relevant to the thread and the subject of debate right now, being how much did Trump's lies fuck up the US.

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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:08 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
If we're going to have flashbacks, can they be to something relevant to the subject?

This entire thing has been relevant to the thread and the subject of debate right now, being how much did Trump's lies fuck up the US.


Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:10 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This entire thing has been relevant to the thread and the subject of debate right now, being how much did Trump's lies fuck up the US.


Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.


Or that many nations in generally totally screwed their responses up, Trump being just one of many.

It does seem difficult to look at the flailing of Trump and think he did anything close to a good job.

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Postby Valrifell » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:12 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.


Or that many nations in generally totally screwed their responses up, Trump being just one of many.

It does seem difficult to look at the flailing of Trump and think he did anything close to a good job.


It's hard to imagine a president who would've bungled up the response on a similar level. Common sense things like distributing PPE to the states worst hit have been difficult for this administration. If anything, they've been a roadblock to that end.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:12 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This entire thing has been relevant to the thread and the subject of debate right now, being how much did Trump's lies fuck up the US.


Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.


We don't know what our infection rate or death rate are, the reported infection rate and death rate are lower, but we have done far fewer tests than many other nations.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:18 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.


Or that many nations in generally totally screwed their responses up, Trump being just one of many.

It does seem difficult to look at the flailing of Trump and think he did anything close to a good job.


It would seem to me that the government response, rather screwed up or not caused relatively little effect in contemporary nations. We see most of europe suffering similar rates, despite different degrees of response.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:19 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:This entire thing has been relevant to the thread and the subject of debate right now, being how much did Trump's lies fuck up the US.


Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.


Again ignoreing my other posts that Japan and India have less infected then the US.

Again you are deflecting criticism because orange man good.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:20 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.


Again ignoreing my other posts that Japan and India have less infected then the US.

Again you are deflecting criticism because orange man good.


He never said orange man good, stop manipulating his words.

It's orange man God. You accidentally hit O twice.
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Postby Telconi » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Telconi wrote:
Given that our death and infection rates are lower than many contemporary nations, "little if any" is the answer apparently.


Again ignoreing my other posts that Japan and India have less infected then the US.

Again you are deflecting criticism because orange man good.


Yes, ignoring information which isn't relevant is generally a good idea.

No, I'm deflecting criticism because the criticism is predicated upon invalid sources.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:26 pm

Telconi wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Or that many nations in generally totally screwed their responses up, Trump being just one of many.

It does seem difficult to look at the flailing of Trump and think he did anything close to a good job.


It would seem to me that the government response, rather screwed up or not caused relatively little effect in contemporary nations. We see most of europe suffering similar rates, despite different degrees of response.


EU peeked already my dude. US hasn't.

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Postby Gormwood » Wed Apr 22, 2020 4:26 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
How does that not qualify as reasonable, I'm so curious.


Orange man good. Anyone who says other wise is only saying Orange man bad.

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