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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:27 am

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I didn't realize Brett Kavanaugh was an undergrad.


And yeah, we're back to "it's sexist to have consequences for sexual assault". Which isn't surprising coming from someone who's complained that it's too easy to prosecute sexual assault cases in actual courts of law.


So you believe the accusation against Mr. Biden unconditionally then?

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:27 am

Nakena wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/fema-paid-bankrupt-company-no-employees-55-million-n95-masks-2020-4

Another crooked day in the Trump administration.


One may wonder where the 55 million ended up. Had Adam Schiff not rushed the impeachment, this would be interesting now. Way more than Ukraine.

Can Trump not be impeached again?

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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:28 am

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He altered the title 9 campus kangaroo courts from a preponderance standard to a clear and convincing standard of evidence (Still below criminal courts, but above a civil suit), and guaranteed the rights of the accused to a lawyer at the proceedings. (Previously denied to many of them). He changed Obamas decision that either both accused and accuser must be able to appeal the decision or neither (While the university handled the accusers legal costs and the accused had to front their own in areas where they were allowed lawyers), and brought in a double jeopardy rule and guarantee of the right of the accused to appeal a decision.

He also changed the remit of the campus courts from handling any and all complaints of sexism to “unwelcome conduct on the basis of sex that is so severe, pervasive and objectively offensive that it denies a person access to the school’s education program or activity.”. (Directly citing the supreme court case on the matter rather than making shit up about what it said to ram through authoritarian bullshit like Obama did).

He brought in cross examination of the accuser, as - “Particularly in sexual misconduct cases, there often are no witnesses, and the decision turns on the credibility of the two parties. There really is no substitute for cross-examination in allowing the fact finder or the adjudicator to judge the credibility of the parties and witnesses,” - Samantha Harris, vice president for procedural advocacy at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.

But I guess all that is literally nothing.


I didn't realize Brett Kavanaugh was an undergrad.


I didn't realize you were against men having basic rights. I'll be sure to rub your nose in that later when you get uppity about injustice.

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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:29 am

The East Marches II wrote:
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I didn't realize Brett Kavanaugh was an undergrad.


I didn't realize you were against men having basic rights. I'll be sure to rub your nose in that later when you get uppity about injustice.


Holy mother of all strawmen, Batman.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
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One may wonder where the 55 million ended up. Had Adam Schiff not rushed the impeachment, this would be interesting now. Way more than Ukraine.

Can Trump not be impeached again?


Probably not. He blew it the first time and the ratings crashed. If the goal is to discredit Trump because you'll never get a conviction, it's tough when you've cried wolf. Oops :^)

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Postby Nakena » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
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One may wonder where the 55 million ended up. Had Adam Schiff not rushed the impeachment, this would be interesting now. Way more than Ukraine.

Can Trump not be impeached again?


Theoretically yes. Practically it's extremly unlikely to happen given the current circumstances. Had they been kept the process ongoing rather that wasting it like that, it could give them way more possibilities and push.
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:31 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And yeah, we're back to "it's sexist to have consequences for sexual assault". Which isn't surprising coming from someone who's complained that it's too easy to prosecute sexual assault cases in actual courts of law.


So you believe the accusation against Mr. Biden unconditionally then?


This attempt at a gotcha became old before it was even posted.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:32 am

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I didn't realize you were against men having basic rights. I'll be sure to rub your nose in that later when you get uppity about injustice.


Holy mother of all strawmen, Batman.


Share with the class why we should have believed a woman who could remember the year & an admitted psycho would got off on giving men STDs and breaking up marriages? Furthermore, you might explain how you ignore the meat of Ostro's post to make a shitty comment on a garbage situation. Otherwise I didn't strawman a thing. Perhaps you'd be better off moaning about the "unhoused" than referring to justice in any way.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:32 am

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So you believe the accusation against Mr. Biden unconditionally then?


This attempt at a gotcha became old before it was even posted.


It perfectly valid. Mr. Biden himself wrote a long op ed on the matter. Shouldn't we have him take his own medicine? That would require consistency, something Vass has proven themselves incapable of having in positions held.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:33 am

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Can Trump not be impeached again?


Theoretically yes. Practically it's extremly unlikely to happen given the current circumstances. Had they been kept the process ongoing rather that wasting it like that, it could give them way more possibilities and inertia.

I don't see how.

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:33 am

Vassenor wrote:
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I didn't realize Brett Kavanaugh was an undergrad.


And yeah, we're back to "it's sexist to have consequences for sexual assault". Which isn't surprising coming from someone who's complained that it's too easy to prosecute sexual assault cases in actual courts of law.

"Why isn't Biden in jail?" in 3... 2... 1...
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:36 am

The East Marches II wrote:
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Holy mother of all strawmen, Batman.


Share with the class why we should have believed a woman who could remember the year & an admitted psycho would got off on giving men STDs and breaking up marriages?


The fact that you're trying to attack me for something I literally never said is what makes this a strawman. If you didn't know the definition of "Strawman" before, well, I'm happy to oblige.

The East Marches II wrote:Furthermore, you might explain how you ignore the meat of Ostro's post to make a shitty comment on a garbage situation. Otherwise I didn't strawman a thing. Perhaps you'd be better off moaning about the "unhoused" than referring to justice in any way.


Because Ostro's post, like yours, has nothing to do with what it was replying to. Why would I engage in a tangent about a subject entirely unrelated to the discussion I was participating in?
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:38 am

Cisairse wrote:
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Share with the class why we should have believed a woman who could remember the year & an admitted psycho would got off on giving men STDs and breaking up marriages?


The fact that you're trying to attack me for something I literally never said is what makes this a strawman. If you didn't know the definition of "Strawman" before, well, I'm happy to oblige.

The East Marches II wrote:Furthermore, you might explain how you ignore the meat of Ostro's post to make a shitty comment on a garbage situation. Otherwise I didn't strawman a thing. Perhaps you'd be better off moaning about the "unhoused" than referring to justice in any way.


Because Ostro's post, like yours, has nothing to do with what it was replying to. Why would I engage in a tangent about a subject entirely unrelated to the discussion I was participating in?


Ah yes, which is why you went the Kavanaugh route. No worries, I'll be there when you moan about justice. There will be no escaping this one.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:38 am

Gormwood wrote:
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And yeah, we're back to "it's sexist to have consequences for sexual assault". Which isn't surprising coming from someone who's complained that it's too easy to prosecute sexual assault cases in actual courts of law.

"Why isn't Biden in jail?" in 3... 2... 1...


I thought Gallo gave you a thorough schooling on this. Did you learn nothing afterall?

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Postby Galloism » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:39 am

Vassenor wrote:
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I didn't realize Brett Kavanaugh was an undergrad.


And yeah, we're back to "it's sexist to have consequences for sexual assault". Which isn't surprising coming from someone who's complained that it's too easy to prosecute sexual assault cases in actual courts of law.

That's ok. This thread has decided having a (D) after your name gets you the presumption of innocence.

Kavanaugh should have had a (D)!
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Postby Cisairse » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:39 am

The East Marches II wrote:
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The fact that you're trying to attack me for something I literally never said is what makes this a strawman. If you didn't know the definition of "Strawman" before, well, I'm happy to oblige.



Because Ostro's post, like yours, has nothing to do with what it was replying to. Why would I engage in a tangent about a subject entirely unrelated to the discussion I was participating in?


Ah yes, which is why you went the Kavanaugh route. No worries, I'll be there when you moan about justice. There will be no escaping this one.


I did not bring up Kavanaugh; New Bremerton did, and I was responding to their post.

But sure man, you really got me up against a wall here. I don't know how I'll ever escape "this one." :roll:
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:40 am

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Ah yes, which is why you went the Kavanaugh route. No worries, I'll be there when you moan about justice. There will be no escaping this one.


I did not bring up Kavanaugh; New Bremerton did, and I was responding to their post.

But sure man, you really got me up against a wall here. I don't know how I'll ever escape "this one." :roll:


You're right I do. Good luck in the future :^)

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Postby Nakena » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:42 am

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Theoretically yes. Practically it's extremly unlikely to happen given the current circumstances. Had they been kept the process ongoing rather that wasting it like that, it could give them way more possibilities and inertia.

I don't see how.


A pity.

Such lack of political... imagination on side of the Democratic Parties and it's cohorts will however ensure that future supplies of Covfefe are secured. Quite possible beyond 2020... ;)

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Postby Vassenor » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:45 am

Nakena wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I don't see how.


A pity.

Such lack of political... imagination on side of the Democratic Parties and it's cohorts will however ensure that future supplies of Covfefe are secured. Quite possible beyond 2020... ;)


Oh yes, the old "everything the Dems do guarantees Trump's reelection" shit.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Apr 18, 2020 10:05 am

Cisairse wrote:
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I didn't realize you were against men having basic rights. I'll be sure to rub your nose in that later when you get uppity about injustice.


Holy mother of all strawmen, Batman.

It's a more logical interpretation of things that have been said than "so there shouldn't be consequences for sexual assault" ever was.

I don't really see why anyone supports or defends the kangaroo courts on college campuses.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:40 am

Trump's magical thinking: Snake oil, an Easter resurrection and killing Nana for capitalism

He's said that sort of thing before, but his evasion of the question was even more clumsy than usual. He admitted for the first time that he speaks to his sons about the business, which he originally promised not to do. So he was very well aware of all the details outlined in this Washington Post story revealing that the Trump Organization has had to close its properties and it is costing him nearly half a million dollars a day.

This may be the real explanation for his recent abrupt pronouncement that he plans to end all this stay-at-home pandemic folderol and send everyone back to work. He needs the money.

So he wants to prematurely end the quarantine because he's starting to feel pain in his wallet. Shocker.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:36 am

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So that's how they're justifying it, eh? By claiming they're trying to prevent them from being sold on the Black Market? Dollars to donuts Trump is either planning to sell them overseas at a mark-up that he will pocket, or that he'll hoard a stash for his own use (far more than he or his family need) and then sell the rest overseas at a mark-up that he will pocket.

I'm surprised he didn't take up that douchebag Shkreli's plea and let him out of jail to "work" on producing a cure.
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