So you believe the accusation against Mr. Biden unconditionally then?
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by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:27 am

by Ifreann » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:27 am
Nakena wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/fema-paid-bankrupt-company-no-employees-55-million-n95-masks-2020-4
Another crooked day in the Trump administration.
One may wonder where the 55 million ended up. Had Adam Schiff not rushed the impeachment, this would be interesting now. Way more than Ukraine.

by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:28 am
Cisairse wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
He altered the title 9 campus kangaroo courts from a preponderance standard to a clear and convincing standard of evidence (Still below criminal courts, but above a civil suit), and guaranteed the rights of the accused to a lawyer at the proceedings. (Previously denied to many of them). He changed Obamas decision that either both accused and accuser must be able to appeal the decision or neither (While the university handled the accusers legal costs and the accused had to front their own in areas where they were allowed lawyers), and brought in a double jeopardy rule and guarantee of the right of the accused to appeal a decision.
He also changed the remit of the campus courts from handling any and all complaints of sexism to “unwelcome conduct on the basis of sex that is so severe, pervasive and objectively offensive that it denies a person access to the school’s education program or activity.”. (Directly citing the supreme court case on the matter rather than making shit up about what it said to ram through authoritarian bullshit like Obama did).
He brought in cross examination of the accuser, as - “Particularly in sexual misconduct cases, there often are no witnesses, and the decision turns on the credibility of the two parties. There really is no substitute for cross-examination in allowing the fact finder or the adjudicator to judge the credibility of the parties and witnesses,” - Samantha Harris, vice president for procedural advocacy at the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education.
But I guess all that is literally nothing.
I didn't realize Brett Kavanaugh was an undergrad.

by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:30 am

by Nakena » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:30 am

by Cisairse » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:31 am
The East Marches II wrote:Vassenor wrote:
And yeah, we're back to "it's sexist to have consequences for sexual assault". Which isn't surprising coming from someone who's complained that it's too easy to prosecute sexual assault cases in actual courts of law.
So you believe the accusation against Mr. Biden unconditionally then?

by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:32 am

by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:32 am

by Gormwood » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:33 am

by Cisairse » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:36 am
The East Marches II wrote:Furthermore, you might explain how you ignore the meat of Ostro's post to make a shitty comment on a garbage situation. Otherwise I didn't strawman a thing. Perhaps you'd be better off moaning about the "unhoused" than referring to justice in any way.

by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:38 am
Cisairse wrote:The East Marches II wrote:
Share with the class why we should have believed a woman who could remember the year & an admitted psycho would got off on giving men STDs and breaking up marriages?
The fact that you're trying to attack me for something I literally never said is what makes this a strawman. If you didn't know the definition of "Strawman" before, well, I'm happy to oblige.The East Marches II wrote:Furthermore, you might explain how you ignore the meat of Ostro's post to make a shitty comment on a garbage situation. Otherwise I didn't strawman a thing. Perhaps you'd be better off moaning about the "unhoused" than referring to justice in any way.
Because Ostro's post, like yours, has nothing to do with what it was replying to. Why would I engage in a tangent about a subject entirely unrelated to the discussion I was participating in?

by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:38 am

by Galloism » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:39 am

by Cisairse » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:39 am
The East Marches II wrote:Cisairse wrote:
The fact that you're trying to attack me for something I literally never said is what makes this a strawman. If you didn't know the definition of "Strawman" before, well, I'm happy to oblige.
Because Ostro's post, like yours, has nothing to do with what it was replying to. Why would I engage in a tangent about a subject entirely unrelated to the discussion I was participating in?
Ah yes, which is why you went the Kavanaugh route. No worries, I'll be there when you moan about justice. There will be no escaping this one.


by The East Marches II » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:40 am
Cisairse wrote:The East Marches II wrote:
Ah yes, which is why you went the Kavanaugh route. No worries, I'll be there when you moan about justice. There will be no escaping this one.
I did not bring up Kavanaugh; New Bremerton did, and I was responding to their post.
But sure man, you really got me up against a wall here. I don't know how I'll ever escape "this one."

by Vassenor » Sat Apr 18, 2020 7:45 am

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by Gormwood » Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:40 am
He's said that sort of thing before, but his evasion of the question was even more clumsy than usual. He admitted for the first time that he speaks to his sons about the business, which he originally promised not to do. So he was very well aware of all the details outlined in this Washington Post story revealing that the Trump Organization has had to close its properties and it is costing him nearly half a million dollars a day.
This may be the real explanation for his recent abrupt pronouncement that he plans to end all this stay-at-home pandemic folderol and send everyone back to work. He needs the money.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:19 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Maineiacs » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:21 am

by Gormwood » Sun Apr 19, 2020 6:36 am
Maineiacs wrote:
So that's how they're justifying it, eh? By claiming they're trying to prevent them from being sold on the Black Market? Dollars to donuts Trump is either planning to sell them overseas at a mark-up that he will pocket, or that he'll hoard a stash for his own use (far more than he or his family need) and then sell the rest overseas at a mark-up that he will pocket.
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