MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[Nakena]

Jeb 2020-40,000

If we had elected Ron Paul in 2012 we could have had an actual MD as president right now.

Electing Ron Paul in 2012 may have been the last chance for the old constitional american nation. It has now passed.

He was the last one who truly believed in that idea and also had the wisdom to implement in a sensible fashion without reverting to dogmatism or other BS.

[Tarsonis]

So apparently Kim is dead.

[Proctopeo]

So apparently Kim is dead.

It's not confirmed yet, but it's definitely a likelihood.

[Blakk Metal]

You can't blame Trump, he may have mistaken "disinfectant" for a form of medicine. After all, Trump has never cleaned his house, or anything else, so how's he supposed to know what disinfectant is?

Will we need ID to buy the disinfectant?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Oh my god I love my uncle but he just spouted off the "He WaS beInG SaRCaStIc" line in Trump's defense.

I love uncle but man it hurts to hear he bought the bullshit hook line and sinker.

So apparently Kim is dead.

Maybe.

[Cannot think of a name]

Oh my god I love my uncle but he just spouted off the "He WaS beInG SaRCaStIc" line in Trump's defense.

I love uncle but man it hurts to hear he bought the bullshit hook line and sinker.

So apparently Kim is dead.

Maybe.

If only he was the kind of person who used facial expressions to express his intent...

[Albrenia]

Oh my god I love my uncle but he just spouted off the "He WaS beInG SaRCaStIc" line in Trump's defense.

I think most of us have at least one relative who makes us cringe with their political 'opinions'.

[Diahon]

We Are Living in a Failed State

[Nakena]

We Are Living in a Failed State

It's heresy to claim that the US is a failed state.

Because it cannot be what shouldn be.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Oh my god I love my uncle but he just spouted off the "He WaS beInG SaRCaStIc" line in Trump's defense.

I love uncle but man it hurts to hear he bought the bullshit hook line and sinker.



Maybe.

If only he was the kind of person who used facial expressions to express his intent...

Oh my god the worst part was that he clamed it was a subtle body language thing that pointed out it "was" a sarcastic comment.

[Diahon]

We Are Living in a Failed State

It's heresy to claim that the US is a failed state.

Because it cannot be what shouldn be.

what is it then?

[Telconi]

A clown who wants us to inject disinfectant? You picked a really fucking crappy cause to shill for.

But the guns tho

This, but not as hatefully.

[Telconi]

It's heresy to claim that the US is a failed state.

Because it cannot be what shouldn be.

what is it then?

A failing state, desperately clinging together.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

I want to ask the Trump thread for a favour. Is this clip scarastic or not sarcastic?

[Albrenia]

I want to ask the Trump thread for a favour. Is this clip scarastic or not sarcastic?

It's the classic 'intently lean in and turn your face away from the people with cameras' way of showing sarcasm. Also, is he going even more bald up top?

[Proctopeo]

We Are Living in a Failed State

Given that the government is still in control of the state, the US isn't a failed state.

[Valrifell]

I want to ask the Trump thread for a favour. Is this clip scarastic or not sarcastic?

We will simply take our your lungs and wipe them with Clorox disinfectant wipes *nods*

[Gormwood]

I want to ask the Trump thread for a favour. Is this clip scarastic or not sarcastic?

We will simply take our your lungs and wipe them with Clorox disinfectant wipes *nods*

Then dry them under UV lamps.

[Diahon]

We Are Living in a Failed State

Given that the government is still in control of the state, the US isn't a failed state.

with so minimalist an interpretation of what constitutes a functioning state -- the technical presence of a government is all, setting aside the willingness of that government to do right by the governed, or the condition of the governed themselves -- the united states does qualify

[Inhorto]

Given that the government is still in control of the state, the US isn't a failed state.

with so minimalist an interpretation of what constitutes a functioning state -- the technical presence of a government is all, setting aside the willingness of that government to do right by the governed, or the condition of the governed themselves -- the united states does qualify

I wouldn't argue that the United States is functioning as well as it could and should, but I wouldn't hazard to call it a failed state. "Failed state" has a very technical definition laid down by the UN. Calling a functioning albeit flawed democracy like the United States a failed state trivializes the term.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Thank you guys for the data.

Updateing the tally as of right now:

6 for genuine 0 for sarcastic and 1 for confused

Results where also colected from discord friends

also assuming that I read Albrenas post correctly

[Albrenia]

also assuming that I read Albrenas post correctly

You did if you counted it as him being entirely serious in his moronic suggestion.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

also assuming that I read Albrenas post correctly

You did if you counted it as him being entirely serious in his moronic suggestion.

I did ty <3

[Proctopeo]

Given that the government is still in control of the state, the US isn't a failed state.

with so minimalist an interpretation of what constitutes a functioning state -- the technical presence of a government is all, setting aside the willingness of that government to do right by the governed, or the condition of the governed themselves -- the united states does qualify

Obviously, there's more factors, but "the government still governs" is a really significant one.
More specifically, there's four big factors, as defined by the Fund for Peace:

• Loss of control over its territory/monopoly on violence within it
• Erosion of legitimate authority
• Inability to provide public services
• Inability to interact with other states

The US doesn't meet any of them.

with so minimalist an interpretation of what constitutes a functioning state -- the technical presence of a government is all, setting aside the willingness of that government to do right by the governed, or the condition of the governed themselves -- the united states does qualify

I wouldn't argue that the United States is functioning as well as it could and should, but I wouldn't hazard to call it a failed state. "Failed state" has a very technical definition laid down by the UN. Calling a functioning albeit flawed democracy like the United States a failed state trivializes the term.

Yes. The US is having issues, but it's nowhere near failed. That's just hyperbolic nonsense.

[Albrenia]

Obviously, there's more factors, but "the government still governs" is a really significant one.
More specifically, there's four big factors, as defined by the Fund for Peace:

• Loss of control over its territory/monopoly on violence within it
• Erosion of legitimate authority
• Inability to provide public services
• Inability to interact with other states

The US doesn't meet any of them.

Just for the sake of nitpicking, wouldn't the first one be met by the 2nd Amendment alone and stuff like Castle laws?

Not that I'm saying the US is literally a failed state, I just like to poke things.