MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[Neanderthaland]

Wow. Trump is talking and he actually said not one Republican voted against him on the impeachment hoax.

Romney is what he considers a RINO

Pot calling the Kettle black, there.

[Albrenia]

Wow. Trump is talking and he actually said not one Republican voted against him on the impeachment hoax.

He may have just forgot it was possible for a Republican to disagree with him and not remembered.

[Moscareinas]

so between that navy captain not only pleading for relief from the bowels of his stricken carrier but publicizing it in desperation, and some white house guy admitting outright that as long as you cripple your state's response to this contagion juuuuuuust right, trump will shower your state with supplies, what rationale is left for supposing trump is doing everything he possibly can?

[Farnhamia]

so between that navy captain not only pleading for relief from the bowels of his stricken carrier but publicizing it in desperation, and some white house guy admitting outright that as long as you cripple your state's response to this contagion juuuuuuust right, trump will shower your state with supplies, what rationale is left for supposing trump is doing everything he possibly can?

Her emails.

[Moscareinas]

so between that navy captain not only pleading for relief from the bowels of his stricken carrier but publicizing it in desperation, and some white house guy admitting outright that as long as you cripple your state's response to this contagion juuuuuuust right, trump will shower your state with supplies, what rationale is left for supposing trump is doing everything he possibly can?

Her emails.

hers? jared ain't a she -- oh, you mean ivanka's?

[Farnhamia]

Her emails.

hers? jared ain't a she -- oh, you mean ivanka's?

Everything that makes Trump look bad can be traced back to Crooked Hillary and Her Emails. Someone should start a band ...

[Farnhamia]

Everything that makes Trump look bad can be traced back to Crooked Hillary and Her Emails. Someone should start a band ...

[Cannot think of a name]

so between that navy captain not only pleading for relief from the bowels of his stricken carrier but publicizing it in desperation, and some white house guy admitting outright that as long as you cripple your state's response to this contagion juuuuuuust right, trump will shower your state with supplies, what rationale is left for supposing trump is doing everything he possibly can?

In addition to taking a giant shit all over Ventec and GM after they moved heaven an earth to shift a plant to produce two years worth of ventilators in a month at cost so he could campaign in Ohio. Despite the fact that GM sold the Lordstown plant to an EV manufacturer Lordstown.

Check it out:
GM CEO Mary Barra steps up, offers to make medical supplies.

Details: White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told Fox News he had spoken with executives including GM CEO Mary Barra about the issue.

What they're saying: A GM spokesperson told the Financial Times that Barra was in talks with the Trump administration "to help find solutions" in response to the pandemic. "[W]e are already studying how we can potentially support production of medical equipment like ventilators," the spokesperson added.

GM and Ventec get together, GM agrees to start cranking out ventilators.

GM and Ventec Life Systems, in cooperation with StopTheSpread.org, the nation's coordinated private sector response to the COVID-19, are collaborating to enable Ventec to increase production of its respiratory care products to support the growing fight against the COVID-19 pandemic. Ventec will leverage GM's logistics, purchasing and manufacturing expertise to build more of their critically important ventilators. To support these efforts, StopTheSpread.org will continue to unite business leaders across the country to collect resources to complement and support government efforts.

Quote from Ventec:

"With GM's help, Ventec will increase ventilator production," said Chris Kiple, Ventec Life Systems CEO. "By tapping their expertise, GM is enabling us to get more ventilators to more hospitals much faster. This partnership will help save lives."

Quote from StopTheSpread.org:

"We are grateful for the partnership between GM and Ventec Life Systems, which will enable Ventec to drastically scale production of critically needed respiratory care products. This is a vital step in delivering relief to our healthcare system, which is threatened by the spread of COVID-19. As this virus continues to endanger the lives of countless Americans, StopTheSpread.org is working to unite the business community around a common threat to our economy and our way of life. We know the strength of this effort relies on urgent coordination between the public and private sectors in order to get through this crisis."

Quote from General Motors:

"We are working closely with Ventec to rapidly scale up production of their critically important respiratory products to support our country's fight against the COVID-19 pandemic," said Mary Barra, GM Chairman and CEO. "We will continue to explore ways to help in this time of crisis."

Ventec and GM got the plan together-

General Motors Co and medical equipment maker Ventec are speeding up efforts under a partnership code-named "Project V" to build ventilators at a GM plant in Kokomo, Indiana, to help combat the coronavirus outbreak.

GM said on Monday that work at its Indiana plant, which makes small electronic components for cars, is part of the effort to expand ventilator production. Sources said the GM-Ventec project is known internally as "Project V."

As part of the effort to boost ventilator output from Ventec, GM has arranged for the supply of 95% of the parts needed to build the ventilator and is seeking to source the remaining 37 necessary parts, according to an email to suppliers from Shilpan Amin, GM's vice president of global purchasing.

The goal of the venture is to build up to 200,000 ventilators, said people familiar with the plans who asked not to be identified.

While Trump said things that made no real sense:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday that U.S. automakers GM, Ford Motor Co, and Tesla Inc had been given the green light to produce ventilators and other items needed during the coronavirus outbreak. It was not clear what Trump meant by the companies "being given the go ahead."

Trump leads from behind but quick to take credit:

Flashback: CEO Mary Barra offered GM's help in a phone call with White House Economic Advisor Larry Kudlow on March 18.

By Friday, GM's top manufacturing brass was visiting Ventec's manufacturing facility in suburban Seattle to learn what was needed.
On Sunday afternoon, Trump tweeted: "Ford, General Motors and Tesla are being given the go ahead to make ventilators and other metal products, FAST!"
By Sunday evening, Amin informed Barra that GM and Ventec had secured supplier commitments for nearly all of the 600-plus parts needed to produce Ventec's innovative multi-function ventilators.
Early Monday, the FDA temporarily relaxed certain policy guidelines, a critical step to allow manufacturers to rapidly expand production.

Between the lines: Trump publicly pushed GM to move heroically, but if the effort fails, it will be GM left facing the fallout.

The bottom line: It would be a monumental feat if GM pulls it off in less than a week. "We know that time is not on our side," said GM spokesman Dan Flores.

Then fucks it up.

The White House canceled an announcement planned for Wednesday on a proposed venture between General Motors and Ventec Life Systems to build necessary ventilators amid the coronavirus outbreak, the New York Times first reported and Axios confirmed.

What we know: The announcement was called off to buy more time for the Federal Emergency Management Agency to assess whether the estimated cost of more than $1 billion was too expensive, and how many ventilators would be produced. Per the Times, the deal could still happen, but government officials are currently looking at other proposals.

Last week, GM and Ventec announced plans to collaborate in an attempt to expand Ventec's manufacturing capacity, including the possibility of building additional units at a GM component plant in Kokomo, Indiana.
"Both GM and Ventec continue to work hard looking at how to make more ventilators, and we are continuing to assess how we can use Kokomo," said GM spokesman Dan Flores.

The big picture: Manufacturers around the globe are shifting gears to produce supplies in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Materials including ventilators, surgical masks and latex gloves are in high demand from medical providers as patients swarm health care facilities.

Then he invokes the DPA to do what GM is already doing.

President Donald Trump issued an order Friday that seeks to force General Motors to produce ventilators for coronavirus patients under the Defense Production Act.

Trump said negotiations with General Motors had been productive, “but our fight against the virus is too urgent to allow the give-and-take of the contracting process to continue to run its normal course.”

Trump, who had previously been reluctant to use the act to force businesses to contribute to the coronavirus fight, said “GM was wasting time” and that his actions will help ensure the quick production of ventilators that will save American lives.

GM is among the farthest along of U.S. companies trying to repurpose factories to build ventilators. It is working with Ventec Life Systems, a small Seattle-area ventilator maker, to increase the company's production and GM will use its auto electronics plant in Kokomo, Indiana to make the machines.

GM is like, whatever, lives are at stake, if it's okay with you all we'll just go ahead and start cranking out these ventilators amazingly quickly.

Trump shits on GM over Lordstown, a plant they turned over to the electric pickup manufacturer long before this, as a reason he went and fuckered up the deal:

QUESTION: Tell us a little about these negotiations with General Motors.
What were they reluctant to do and was it a debate over costs or profits or
what?

TRUMP: Well, it got to be a debate over cost.

We don`t want to think too much about cost when we`re talking about this.
This is not cost. I wasn`t happy where General Motors built plants in other
locations over the years. Not so much during my term, but they built a lot
of plants in other countries. I won`t name them but you can imagine. And so
I didn`t go into it with a favorable view. I was extremely happy with
Lordstown, Ohio.

They left Lordstown, Ohio in the middle of an auto boom because we had 17
car companies coming in and then they were leaving within plant in Ohio. I
love Ohio.

And what happens? That became the story, not that all these plants are
moving in, but that you had one plant they were leaving. And, frankly, I
think that would be a good place to build the ventilators, but we`ll see.
We`ll see how that all works out.

So I wasn`t too thrilled. And then we thought we had a deal for 40,000
ventilators, then all of a sudden it became 6,000 and then price became a
big object. But Peter Navarro is going to handle that and Peter will do a
very good job. We`ll see, maybe they`ll change their tune. But we didn`t
want to play games with them.

Trump, kicking the heels of progress since 2016.

[Cannot think of a name]

Everything that makes Trump look bad can be traced back to Crooked Hillary and Her Emails. Someone should start a band ...

I wanted that to be a real band so bad...

[Gormwood]

so between that navy captain not only pleading for relief from the bowels of his stricken carrier but publicizing it in desperation, and some white house guy admitting outright that as long as you cripple your state's response to this contagion juuuuuuust right, trump will shower your state with supplies, what rationale is left for supposing trump is doing everything he possibly can?

In addition to taking a giant shit all over Ventec and GM after they moved heaven an earth to shift a plant to produce two years worth of ventilators in a month at cost so he could campaign in Ohio. Despite the fact that GM sold the Lordstown plant to an EV manufacturer Lordstown.

Check it out:
GM CEO Mary Barra steps up, offers to make medical supplies.

Details: White House economic adviser Larry Kudlow told Fox News he had spoken with executives including GM CEO Mary Barra about the issue.

What they're saying: A GM spokesperson told the Financial Times that Barra was in talks with the Trump administration "to help find solutions" in response to the pandemic. "[W]e are already studying how we can potentially support production of medical equipment like ventilators," the spokesperson added.

GM and Ventec get together, GM agrees to start cranking out ventilators.

GM and Ventec Life Systems, in cooperation with StopTheSpread.org, the nation's coordinated private sector response to the COVID-19, are collaborating to enable Ventec to increase production of its respiratory care products to support the growing fight against the COVID-19 pandemic. Ventec will leverage GM's logistics, purchasing and manufacturing expertise to build more of their critically important ventilators. To support these efforts, StopTheSpread.org will continue to unite business leaders across the country to collect resources to complement and support government efforts.

Quote from Ventec:

"With GM's help, Ventec will increase ventilator production," said Chris Kiple, Ventec Life Systems CEO. "By tapping their expertise, GM is enabling us to get more ventilators to more hospitals much faster. This partnership will help save lives."

Quote from StopTheSpread.org:

"We are grateful for the partnership between GM and Ventec Life Systems, which will enable Ventec to drastically scale production of critically needed respiratory care products. This is a vital step in delivering relief to our healthcare system, which is threatened by the spread of COVID-19. As this virus continues to endanger the lives of countless Americans, StopTheSpread.org is working to unite the business community around a common threat to our economy and our way of life. We know the strength of this effort relies on urgent coordination between the public and private sectors in order to get through this crisis."

Quote from General Motors:

"We are working closely with Ventec to rapidly scale up production of their critically important respiratory products to support our country's fight against the COVID-19 pandemic," said Mary Barra, GM Chairman and CEO. "We will continue to explore ways to help in this time of crisis."

Ventec and GM got the plan together-

General Motors Co and medical equipment maker Ventec are speeding up efforts under a partnership code-named "Project V" to build ventilators at a GM plant in Kokomo, Indiana, to help combat the coronavirus outbreak.

GM said on Monday that work at its Indiana plant, which makes small electronic components for cars, is part of the effort to expand ventilator production. Sources said the GM-Ventec project is known internally as "Project V."

As part of the effort to boost ventilator output from Ventec, GM has arranged for the supply of 95% of the parts needed to build the ventilator and is seeking to source the remaining 37 necessary parts, according to an email to suppliers from Shilpan Amin, GM's vice president of global purchasing.

The goal of the venture is to build up to 200,000 ventilators, said people familiar with the plans who asked not to be identified.

While Trump said things that made no real sense:

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday that U.S. automakers GM, Ford Motor Co, and Tesla Inc had been given the green light to produce ventilators and other items needed during the coronavirus outbreak. It was not clear what Trump meant by the companies "being given the go ahead."

Trump leads from behind but quick to take credit:

Flashback: CEO Mary Barra offered GM's help in a phone call with White House Economic Advisor Larry Kudlow on March 18.

By Friday, GM's top manufacturing brass was visiting Ventec's manufacturing facility in suburban Seattle to learn what was needed.
On Sunday afternoon, Trump tweeted: "Ford, General Motors and Tesla are being given the go ahead to make ventilators and other metal products, FAST!"
By Sunday evening, Amin informed Barra that GM and Ventec had secured supplier commitments for nearly all of the 600-plus parts needed to produce Ventec's innovative multi-function ventilators.
Early Monday, the FDA temporarily relaxed certain policy guidelines, a critical step to allow manufacturers to rapidly expand production.

Between the lines: Trump publicly pushed GM to move heroically, but if the effort fails, it will be GM left facing the fallout.

The bottom line: It would be a monumental feat if GM pulls it off in less than a week. "We know that time is not on our side," said GM spokesman Dan Flores.

Then fucks it up.

The White House canceled an announcement planned for Wednesday on a proposed venture between General Motors and Ventec Life Systems to build necessary ventilators amid the coronavirus outbreak, the New York Times first reported and Axios confirmed.

What we know: The announcement was called off to buy more time for the Federal Emergency Management Agency to assess whether the estimated cost of more than $1 billion was too expensive, and how many ventilators would be produced. Per the Times, the deal could still happen, but government officials are currently looking at other proposals.

Last week, GM and Ventec announced plans to collaborate in an attempt to expand Ventec's manufacturing capacity, including the possibility of building additional units at a GM component plant in Kokomo, Indiana.
"Both GM and Ventec continue to work hard looking at how to make more ventilators, and we are continuing to assess how we can use Kokomo," said GM spokesman Dan Flores.

The big picture: Manufacturers around the globe are shifting gears to produce supplies in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Materials including ventilators, surgical masks and latex gloves are in high demand from medical providers as patients swarm health care facilities.

Then he invokes the DPA to do what GM is already doing.

President Donald Trump issued an order Friday that seeks to force General Motors to produce ventilators for coronavirus patients under the Defense Production Act.

Trump said negotiations with General Motors had been productive, “but our fight against the virus is too urgent to allow the give-and-take of the contracting process to continue to run its normal course.”

Trump, who had previously been reluctant to use the act to force businesses to contribute to the coronavirus fight, said “GM was wasting time” and that his actions will help ensure the quick production of ventilators that will save American lives.

GM is among the farthest along of U.S. companies trying to repurpose factories to build ventilators. It is working with Ventec Life Systems, a small Seattle-area ventilator maker, to increase the company's production and GM will use its auto electronics plant in Kokomo, Indiana to make the machines.

GM is like, whatever, lives are at stake, if it's okay with you all we'll just go ahead and start cranking out these ventilators amazingly quickly.

Trump shits on GM over Lordstown, a plant they turned over to the electric pickup manufacturer long before this, as a reason he went and fuckered up the deal:

QUESTION: Tell us a little about these negotiations with General Motors.
What were they reluctant to do and was it a debate over costs or profits or
what?

TRUMP: Well, it got to be a debate over cost.

We don`t want to think too much about cost when we`re talking about this.
This is not cost. I wasn`t happy where General Motors built plants in other
locations over the years. Not so much during my term, but they built a lot
of plants in other countries. I won`t name them but you can imagine. And so
I didn`t go into it with a favorable view. I was extremely happy with
Lordstown, Ohio.

They left Lordstown, Ohio in the middle of an auto boom because we had 17
car companies coming in and then they were leaving within plant in Ohio. I
love Ohio.

And what happens? That became the story, not that all these plants are
moving in, but that you had one plant they were leaving. And, frankly, I
think that would be a good place to build the ventilators, but we`ll see.
We`ll see how that all works out.

So I wasn`t too thrilled. And then we thought we had a deal for 40,000
ventilators, then all of a sudden it became 6,000 and then price became a
big object. But Peter Navarro is going to handle that and Peter will do a
very good job. We`ll see, maybe they`ll change their tune. But we didn`t
want to play games with them.

Trump, kicking the heels of progress since 2016.

But he mines liberal salt so that just makes him more popular with meme addicts and deplorables.

[Northern Davincia]

In addition to taking a giant shit all over Ventec and GM after they moved heaven an earth to shift a plant to produce two years worth of ventilators in a month at cost so he could campaign in Ohio. Despite the fact that GM sold the Lordstown plant to an EV manufacturer Lordstown.

Check it out:
GM CEO Mary Barra steps up, offers to make medical supplies.

GM and Ventec get together, GM agrees to start cranking out ventilators.

Ventec and GM got the plan together-

While Trump said things that made no real sense:

Trump leads from behind but quick to take credit:

Then fucks it up.

Then he invokes the DPA to do what GM is already doing.

GM is like, whatever, lives are at stake, if it's okay with you all we'll just go ahead and start cranking out these ventilators amazingly quickly.

Trump shits on GM over Lordstown, a plant they turned over to the electric pickup manufacturer long before this, as a reason he went and fuckered up the deal:

Trump, kicking the heels of progress since 2016.

But he mines liberal salt so that just makes him more popular with meme addicts and deplorables.

He will probably win reelection because you make it easy.

[Gormwood]

But he mines liberal salt so that just makes him more popular with meme addicts and deplorables.

He will probably win reelection because you make it easy.

Uh huh, sure. I alone can alter the course of election.

[Zurkerx]

The Trump Administration ignored pandemic warning from White House economists.

The White House study reportedly cautioned that a pandemic, like the coronavirus outbreak the world is now facing, could cause the deaths of a half-million Americans and cost the economy as much as $3.8 trillion. The study contradicts what administration officials have repeatedly said about the coronavirus coming out of nowhere and causing unforeseen devastation to the U.S. economy.

The 2019 study was ordered by the National Security Council, two people familiar with the matter told the newspaper, which added that it warned officials not to conflate the risks of the annual flu with a potential pandemic.

One of the authors of the study, who has since left the White House, estimated a majority of economic activity would need to be halted for two to eight months to slow down a potential virus, according to the Times.

Those were the key parts I took from The Hill Article, but it\s a summary of the NYT's Article, which I also linked.

[Gormwood]

The Trump Administration ignored pandemic warning from White House economists.

The White House study reportedly cautioned that a pandemic, like the coronavirus outbreak the world is now facing, could cause the deaths of a half-million Americans and cost the economy as much as $3.8 trillion. The study contradicts what administration officials have repeatedly said about the coronavirus coming out of nowhere and causing unforeseen devastation to the U.S. economy.

The 2019 study was ordered by the National Security Council, two people familiar with the matter told the newspaper, which added that it warned officials not to conflate the risks of the annual flu with a potential pandemic.

One of the authors of the study, who has since left the White House, estimated a majority of economic activity would need to be halted for two to eight months to slow down a potential virus, according to the Times.

Those were the key parts I took from The Hill Article, but it\s a summary of the NYT's Article, which I also linked.

Trump being the Avatar of the Dunning-Kruger Effect ignores studied warnings about the oncoming pandemic?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Trump slided back into the grim reality of the World under Corona:

Donald Trump has extended America’s national shutdown for a month, bowing to public health experts, and scientific reality, and warning that the worst of the coronavirus pandemic is yet to come.

Speaking in the White House Rose Garden, the US president claimed that, if his administration keeps the death toll to 100,000, it will have done “a very good job” – a startling shift from his optimistic predictions of a few days ago when he said he hoped to restart the economy by Easter.

Trump also undermined his plea for unity by uttering falsehoods, verbally abusing reporters and making incendiary allegations that implied health care workers were stealing masks, without providing evidence.

The extended deadline marked a humiliating retreat for the president who, having squandered six precious weeks at the start of the pandemic, more recently complained that the cure is worse than the problem and floated Easter Sunday as a “beautiful timeline” for reopening big swathes of the country.

Trump says keeping US Covid-19 deaths to 100,000 would be a ‘very good job’

Tbh keeping deaths to 100,000 or lower would be doing a pretty good job. Keeping it from breaking the Spanish flu’s 500,000-675,000 American death toll is a must.

[Farnhamia]

Trump slided back into the grim reality of the World under Corona:


Trump says keeping US Covid-19 deaths to 100,000 would be a ‘very good job’

Tbh keeping deaths to 100,000 or lower would be doing a pretty good job. Keeping it from breaking the Spanish flu’s 500,000-675,000 American death toll is a must.

Trump 2020: We Only Lost 98,000!

[Gormwood]

Tbh keeping deaths to 100,000 or lower would be doing a pretty good job. Keeping it from breaking the Spanish flu’s 500,000-675,000 American death toll is a must.

Trump 2020: We Only Lost 98,000!

"And they were all liberals, so it's good!"

[Northern Davincia]

He will probably win reelection because you make it easy.

Uh huh, sure. I alone can alter the course of election.

Thing is, you're not an isolated case. There are plenty of liberals who desensitize everyone around them to Trump's antics because they complain with every breath.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Uh huh, sure. I alone can alter the course of election.

Thing is, you're not an isolated case. There are plenty of liberals who desensitize everyone around them to Trump's antics because they complain with every breath.

Your argument:

"The more mistakes Trump makes, the more people will be desensitized to his bullshit and the more people will vote for him"

I mean, it can be defended, but you don't have a very flattering view of the president.

[Proctopeo]

Thing is, you're not an isolated case. There are plenty of liberals who desensitize everyone around them to Trump's antics because they complain with every breath.

Your argument:

"The more mistakes Trump makes, the more people will be desensitized to his bullshit and the more people will vote for him"

I mean, it can be defended, but you don't have a very flattering view of the president.

That's not what he said, though. Stop being dishonest.

[Gormwood]

Your argument:

"The more mistakes Trump makes, the more people will be desensitized to his bullshit and the more people will vote for him"

I mean, it can be defended, but you don't have a very flattering view of the president.

That's not what he said, though. Stop being dishonest.

He's not lying. According to ND, the more stupid shit Trump does, the more liberals will complain about it and desensitize everyone else to Trump's stupid shit ergo they will vote for Trump. Therefore the more stupid shit Trump does the more people will vote for him.

[Proctopeo]

That's not what he said, though. Stop being dishonest.

He's not lying.

He's being dishonest for fuckin' sure, since ND didn't say something even close to that.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Your argument:

"The more mistakes Trump makes, the more people will be desensitized to his bullshit and the more people will vote for him"

I mean, it can be defended, but you don't have a very flattering view of the president.

That's not what he said, though. Stop being dishonest.

It's the logical conclusion. If hearing complaining about Trump desensitizes you to his bullshit, and that makes people vote for him, it follows that the more shit Trump gets up to, the higher his chances of being elected will be.

[Cisairse]

Looks like Trump's approval rating has stopped rising.

[Proctopeo]

That's not what he said, though. Stop being dishonest.

It's the logical conclusion. If hearing complaining about Trump desensitizes you to his bullshit, and that makes people vote for him, it follows that the more shit Trump gets up to, the higher his chances of being elected will be.

It's not, though.

And given the baffling duration of tired jokes at the expensive of his skin color, purported physical deformity, cultural origin of his family name, and a typo he made once, it's not like he actually has to do all that much.