MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[Loben The 2nd]

Well ICE now feels like it has the right to go into Sanctuary States and arrest/deport Dreamers, as can be seen with my next-door neighbor whose probably not gonna be there for a while.

Fuck Trump and Fuck the modern day Gestapo known as ICE~

boring me.

[Imperial Joseon]

I don't know. He has to focus on driving and shifting his gears. Would he have time to think?

I'm not sure thinking is a requirement for his tweets.

Ba-dum-tish.

Exactly.

[Nakena]

Well ICE now feels like it has the right to go into Sanctuary States and arrest/deport Dreamers, as can be seen with my next-door neighbor whose probably not gonna be there for a while.

Fuck Trump and Fuck the modern day Gestapo known as ICE~

Couldn they do that already before?

[New haven america]

Well ICE now feels like it has the right to go into Sanctuary States and arrest/deport Dreamers, as can be seen with my next-door neighbor whose probably not gonna be there for a while.

Fuck Trump and Fuck the modern day Gestapo known as ICE~

Couldn they do that already before?

No, sanctuary cities and states have laws keeping ICE from coming in and arresting/deporting illegal immigrants, regardless if they're dreamers or not.

Trump and ICE happen to really hate sanctuary cities and states for that very reason.

[Proctopeo]

Couldn they do that already before?

No, sanctuary cities and states have laws keeping ICE from coming in and arresting/deporting illegal immigrants, regardless if they're dreamers or not.

Trump and ICE happen to really hate sanctuary cities and states for that very reason.

I don't think that they can actually legally stop ICE from doings its job, obstructing the law is generally very illegal.

Dreamers, however, usually do have protection.

[New haven america]

No, sanctuary cities and states have laws keeping ICE from coming in and arresting/deporting illegal immigrants, regardless if they're dreamers or not.

Trump and ICE happen to really hate sanctuary cities and states for that very reason.

I don't think that they can actually legally stop ICE from doings its job, obstructing the law is generally very illegal.

Dreamers, however, usually do have protection.

Sanctuary cities and states can, that's literally the reason they exist, to stop entities like ICE from doing and deporting whoever they feel like.

Again, one of the main reason Trump and ICE hates them.

[Proctopeo]

I don't think that they can actually legally stop ICE from doings its job, obstructing the law is generally very illegal.

Dreamers, however, usually do have protection.

Sanctuary cities and states can, that's literally the reason they exist, to stop entities like ICE from doing and deporting whoever they feel like.

Again, one of the main reason Trump and ICE hates them.

Can they?

From what I've heard, they mainly just make their jobs harder by not cooperating.
There's a few unconfirmed cases of illegal immigrants being given warning of ICE raids, but, again, unconfirmed cases.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Well ICE now feels like it has the right to go into Sanctuary States and arrest/deport Dreamers, as can be seen with my next-door neighbor whose probably not gonna be there for a while.

Fuck Trump and Fuck the modern day Gestapo known as ICE~

Is there something wrong with deporting illegal aliens?

[Gormwood]

Well ICE now feels like it has the right to go into Sanctuary States and arrest/deport Dreamers, as can be seen with my next-door neighbor whose probably not gonna be there for a while.

Fuck Trump and Fuck the modern day Gestapo known as ICE~

Is there something wrong with deporting illegal aliens?

Nothing wrong arresting jaywalkers with SWAT teams now I see.

[The East Marches II]

Couldn they do that already before?

No, sanctuary cities and states have laws keeping ICE from coming in and arresting/deporting illegal immigrants, regardless if they're dreamers or not.

Trump and ICE happen to really hate sanctuary cities and states for that very reason.

This is a misunderstanding of what being a sanctuary city/state is tbh.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Sanctuary cities and states can, that's literally the reason they exist, to stop entities like ICE from doing and deporting whoever they feel like.

Again, one of the main reason Trump and ICE hates them.

Can they?

From what I've heard, they mainly just make their jobs harder by not cooperating.
There's a few unconfirmed cases of illegal immigrants being given warning of ICE raids, but, again, unconfirmed cases.

You would be correct. Sanctuary cities/counties/states can't prevent the fed from coming in and doing things, they just make it more difficult by not helping.

[Albrenia]

Hunting down Dreamers seems rather mean spirited to me, unless they're otherwise engaging in criminal behaviour. They didn't even commit the crime they're being kicked out of the country for, and if I recall correctly gaining citizenship is much more difficult for them than an ordinary person.

[Gormwood]

Hunting down Dreamers seems rather mean spirited to me, unless they're otherwise engaging in criminal behaviour. They didn't even commit the crime they're being kicked out of the country for, and if I recall correctly gaining citizenship is much more difficult for them than an ordinary person.

With Trump it's probably just the latest in his FUCKOBAMA spree to erase the entire family from the timeline. Obama enacted DACA after all.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Well ICE now feels like it has the right to go into Sanctuary States and arrest/deport Dreamers, as can be seen with my next-door neighbor whose probably not gonna be there for a while.

Fuck Trump and Fuck the modern day Gestapo known as ICE~

Is there something wrong with deporting illegal aliens?

Waste of tax money if all they did was cross an imaginary line.

Hunting down Dreamers seems rather mean spirited to me, unless they're otherwise engaging in criminal behaviour. They didn't even commit the crime they're being kicked out of the country for, and if I recall correctly gaining citizenship is much more difficult for them than an ordinary person.

Thats trumps whole presdency tbh. Mean spirited dumbness.

[The Lone Alliance]

You would be correct. Sanctuary cities/counties/states can't prevent the fed from coming in and doing things, they just make it more difficult by not helping.

Really no different than those places that say they won't enforce certain drug laws, it doesn't stop the federal government from coming in and busting someone for pot, it just means the locals won't do it themselves.

For the most part ICE would have trouble busting anyone if the city doesn't play along, if they're not allowed to use local jail cells, local police assets, local anything, that means they'd have to do it all by themselves.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Is there something wrong with deporting illegal aliens?

Waste of tax money if all they did was cross an imaginary line.

Hunting down Dreamers seems rather mean spirited to me, unless they're otherwise engaging in criminal behaviour. They didn't even commit the crime they're being kicked out of the country for, and if I recall correctly gaining citizenship is much more difficult for them than an ordinary person.

Thats trumps whole presdency tbh. Mean spirited dumbness.

Legal Immigration is legal immigration and illegal immigration is illegal immigration, and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to understand.

[Galloism]

Couldn they do that already before?

No, sanctuary cities and states have laws keeping ICE from coming in and arresting/deporting illegal immigrants, regardless if they're dreamers or not.

Trump and ICE happen to really hate sanctuary cities and states for that very reason.

That’s not how sanctuary cities work. Trying to stop federal agents from enforcing federal law is a crime.

They just don’t have to help.

[Albrenia]

Waste of tax money if all they did was cross an imaginary line.



Thats trumps whole presdency tbh. Mean spirited dumbness.

Legal Immigration is legal immigration and illegal immigration is illegal immigration, and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to understand.

Seems a bit harsh to hunt down people and kick them out of the only life they've ever known for a crime they were too young to have any part in. From a strictly legalistic point of view I see how they can do it, but more of a question of if they should.

This only applies to said Dreamers who are otherwise law abiding and good citizens.

[Gormwood]

Legal Immigration is legal immigration and illegal immigration is illegal immigration, and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to understand.

Seems a bit harsh to hunt down people and kick them out of the only life they've ever known for a crime they were too young to have any part in. From a strictly legalistic point of view I see how they can do it, but more of a question of if they should.

This only applies to said Dreamers who are otherwise law abiding and good citizens.

Don't be silly, infants and preteens should know better than to illegally cross borders with their parents. /s

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Waste of tax money if all they did was cross an imaginary line.



Thats trumps whole presdency tbh. Mean spirited dumbness.

Legal Immigration is legal immigration and illegal immigration is illegal immigration, and should not be tolerated, it is that easy to understand.

They are otherwise law abideing people who should only be deported if they do actual harm to someone else.

Crossing a pretend line harms no one.

[Neutraligon]

No, sanctuary cities and states have laws keeping ICE from coming in and arresting/deporting illegal immigrants, regardless if they're dreamers or not.

Trump and ICE happen to really hate sanctuary cities and states for that very reason.

This is a misunderstanding of what being a sanctuary city/state is tbh.

Correct, sanctuary cities are sanctuary cities because law enforcement in those cities do not turn over people to ICE. They cannot prevent ICE from doing their job. Essentially sanctuary places are uncoopertive with the federal government, and can be uncooperative because it is not their job to do the federal goverment's job for them

[Imperial Joseon]

That’s not how sanctuary cities work. Trying to stop federal agents from enforcing federal law is a crime.

They just don’t have to help.

Then, how do sanctuary cities work? Aren't they supposed to provide refuge to citizens?

[Cisairse]

That’s not how sanctuary cities work. Trying to stop federal agents from enforcing federal law is a crime.

They just don’t have to help.

Then, how do sanctuary cities work? Aren't they supposed to provide refuge to citizens?

Citizens don't need refuge, they can go anywhere.

[Imperial Joseon]

Then, how do sanctuary cities work? Aren't they supposed to provide refuge to citizens?

Citizens don't need refuge, they can go anywhere.

I mean, in case of a natural disaster, and if they happen to be out of their home.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

Citizens don't need refuge, they can go anywhere.

I mean, in case of a natural disaster, and if they happen to be out of their home.

Galloism defined a sanctuary city for you, above.

"Not helping" would include not reporting illegal immigrants when they're detected, eg a traffic stop.