MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

still waiting for that overthrow
like cmon guys, take a hint from the puerto ricans for once

I wouldn’t really take that as an example. They ousted one governor but the one they have now is 1) from the same party and 2) just as shitty. Not much of a change.

[Northern Davincia]

That's an awful lot of taxpayer money and lawmaker time that got wasted on that symbolic golden calf of the Democratic National Party.

Resources that could've been used to other projects that may well have improved your standard of living.

But whatever, enjoy four more years of Trump because of this. Because you've all earned that.

Even had they won... it's 9 months to re-election. Most of what he was gonna do got done already and even got passed through the courts. So none of what he's set in motion will go away.

Pssst. How many Bengazi hearings did they have?

Don’t be wailing about waste of resources.

It isn’t a waste to investigate alleged wrongs of a President be he Democrat or Republican.

The Benghazi hearings served the valid purpose of getting Clinton to accept responsibility for the fiasco. Mission accomplished.

[Myrensis]

Pssst. How many Bengazi hearings did they have?

Don’t be wailing about waste of resources.

It isn’t a waste to investigate alleged wrongs of a President be he Democrat or Republican.

The Benghazi hearings served the valid purpose of getting Clinton to accept responsibility for the fiasco. Mission accomplished.

The Benghazi hearings, by Republicans own admission, served the purpose of smearing Clinton ahead of the election, nothing more.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Seems to work fine for the Democrat party.

As if two wrongs make a right.

In this case it's 3 or 5 wrongs in a multi-wrong pileup on the interstate.

The Benghazi hearings served the valid purpose of getting Clinton to accept responsibility for the fiasco. Mission accomplished.

The Benghazi hearings, by Republicans own admission, served the purpose of smearing Clinton ahead of the election, nothing more.

It also shed light as to why an entire embassy and its staff had to die that night while the QRF did nothing, because them were their orders.

Y'know, for those of us who are actually curious on how such a collosal security-fail could occur... again.

[Fartsniffage]

As if two wrongs make a right.

In this case it's 3 or 5 wrongs in a multi-wrong pileup on the interstate.

The Benghazi hearings, by Republicans own admission, served the purpose of smearing Clinton ahead of the election, nothing more.

It also shed light as to why an entire embassy and its staff had to die that night while the QRF did nothing.

Not an embassy. Why would the US embassy to Libya be in Benghazi? It was and is in Tripoli.

[Durzan]

So feels should be more important than reals?

Neither party will admit anything. That’s the thing. The Republican majority dismissed the impeachment, without checking it out, seemingly. The Democratic minority pushed for this procedure supposedly breaking impeachment articles. It’s a tit for tat. It’s not because feels. It’s because polarization.

Bingo. And I'm sick of this shit.

[Fartsniffage]

Neither party will admit anything. That’s the thing. The Republican majority dismissed the impeachment, without checking it out, seemingly. The Democratic minority pushed for this procedure supposedly breaking impeachment articles. It’s a tit for tat. It’s not because feels. It’s because polarization.

Bingo. And I'm sick of this shit.

How did the Democratic minority break impeachment articles? And what does that sentence even mean?

[Totenborg]

Ironically these far-right ideologues would find far more fruitful employment and much less social ostracism in places like Russia or PRC or with the Saudis. They just have to swear allegiance to new gods... a not too difficult task I imagine.

i love how you assume im far right lol.. not all republicans are far right...

I don't think you understand what's going on.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

In this case it's 3 or 5 wrongs in a multi-wrong pileup on the interstate.


It also shed light as to why an entire embassy and its staff had to die that night while the QRF did nothing.

Not an embassy. Why would the US embassy to Libya be in Benghazi? It was and is in Tripoli.

Officially it was a diplomatic consulate, ergo an embassy.

There are of course rumors it was nothing more than gun-running shed for the CIA.
The source of that rumor aside:

In January 2014, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence caIn January 2014, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence cast doubt on this alleged U.S. involvement and reported that "All CIA activities in Benghazi were legal and authorized. On-the-record testimony establishes that the CIA was not sending weapons ... from Libya to Syria, or facilitating other organizations or states that were transferring weapons from Libya to Syria.

[Durzan]

Bingo. And I'm sick of this shit.

How did the Democratic minority break impeachment articles? And what does that sentence even mean?

I have no idea. I was agreeing with the polarization comment, not the other stuff. I'm sick of the shit caused by both parties constantly being at each other's throats. Especially when it seems like they are fighting over shit that is probably ultimately meaningless.

[Fartsniffage]

Not an embassy. Why would the US embassy to Libya be in Benghazi? It was and is in Tripoli.

Officially it was a diplomatic consulate, ergo an embassy.

There are of course rumors it was nothing more than gun-running shed for the CIA.
The source of that rumor aside:

In January 2014, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence caIn January 2014, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence cast doubt on this alleged U.S. involvement and reported that "All CIA activities in Benghazi were legal and authorized. On-the-record testimony establishes that the CIA was not sending weapons ... from Libya to Syria, or facilitating other organizations or states that were transferring weapons from Libya to Syria.

A consulate is not an embassy. And it wasn't even that, it was classed as a diplomatic mission. Hence the lack of security. But you know that, right?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Bingo. And I'm sick of this shit.

How did the Democratic minority break impeachment articles? And what does that sentence even mean?

According to this, Pelosi resisted on transmitting the articles of impeachment to the Senate. She eventually had to, because several of the members started breaking with her on this resistance.

If you want to start a procedure, one of the very first things that need to be transmitted are the articles.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Officially it was a diplomatic consulate, ergo an embassy.

There are of course rumors it was nothing more than gun-running shed for the CIA.
The source of that rumor aside:

A consulate is not an embassy. And it wasn't even that, it was classed as a diplomatic mission. Hence the lack of security. But you know that, right?

Tater-tots, potato-chips. Same diff.

Or as Hillary declared: "What difference does it make?"

[Myrensis]

As if two wrongs make a right.

In this case it's 3 or 5 wrongs in a multi-wrong pileup on the interstate.

The Benghazi hearings, by Republicans own admission, served the purpose of smearing Clinton ahead of the election, nothing more.

It also shed light as to why an entire embassy and its staff had to die that night while the QRF did nothing, because them were their orders.

Y'know, for those of us who are actually curious on how such a collosal security-fail could occur... again.

More accurately 4 people died in a diplomatic outpost hundreds of miles from the actual embassy, in a fight that was over long before any actual QRF could have been on site. The closest thing to the long blubbered about 'stand down order' was the CIA Officer in charge of an annex nearby telling his security contractors to wait while he tried to get support from local US friendly militias. And yes, the 1st investigation determined that security wasn't sufficient, which was bad. Findings that were confirmed by the 2nd investigation, and the 3rd, and the 4th, and the 5th, and the 6th.

Though I'm glad you mentioned 'again', as it's a reminder that Republicans, for totally not political reasons, devoted more time to investigating how 4 Americans could be killed in a civil war torn African country than to how 3000 Americans could be killed in the middle of New York City.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

In this case it's 3 or 5 wrongs in a multi-wrong pileup on the interstate.


It also shed light as to why an entire embassy and its staff had to die that night while the QRF did nothing, because them were their orders.

Y'know, for those of us who are actually curious on how such a collosal security-fail could occur... again.

More accurately 4 people died in a diplomatic outpost hundreds of miles from the actual embassy, in a fight that was over long before any actual QRF could have been on site. The closest thing to the long blubbered about 'stand down order' was the CIA Officer in charge of an annex nearby telling his security contractors to wait while he tried to get support from local US friendly militias. And yes, the 1st investigation determined that security wasn't sufficient, which was bad. Findings that were confirmed by the 2nd investigation, and the 3rd, and the 4th, and the 5th, and the 6th.

Though I'm glad you mentioned 'again', as it's a reminder that Republicans, for totally not political reasons, devoted more time to investigating how 4 Americans could be killed in a civil war torn African country than to how 3000 Americans could be killed in the middle of New York City.

Ah, the 9/11 commission... yeah, that's largely because the people who built the structure volunteered answers rather than shredding documents and selectively forgetting every accomplishment they've made in the past 20 years of their career in front of a senate judiciary committee.

Personally I was thinking even further back.

[Valrifell]

How did the Democratic minority break impeachment articles? And what does that sentence even mean?

According to this, Pelosi resisted on transmitting the articles of impeachment to the Senate. She eventually had to, because several of the members started breaking with her on this resistance.

If you want to start a procedure, one of the very first things that need to be transmitted are the articles.

They were trying to get a deal that would allow witnesses to happen during the Senate trial, because not allowing them in the first place was outside the norm.

I'm down for saying both parties suck, but it's when you start talking equality that I have to disagree. The GOP sucks way harder and is willing to violate far more norms than their Democratic counterparts to get what they want, such as being very open about the fact that the evidence would not have made a difference in the slightest if they got to acquit their boy who did very bad things.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

According to this, Pelosi resisted on transmitting the articles of impeachment to the Senate. She eventually had to, because several of the members started breaking with her on this resistance.

If you want to start a procedure, one of the very first things that need to be transmitted are the articles.

They were trying to get a deal that would allow witnesses to happen during the Senate trial, because not allowing them in the first place was outside the norm.

I'm down for saying both parties suck, but it's when you start talking equality that I have to disagree. The GOP sucks way harder and is willing to violate far more norms than their Democratic counterparts to get what they want, such as being very open about the fact that the evidence would not have made a difference in the slightest if they got to acquit their boy who did very bad things.

At this point in the game, both parties suck big time.

[Valrifell]

They were trying to get a deal that would allow witnesses to happen during the Senate trial, because not allowing them in the first place was outside the norm.

I'm down for saying both parties suck, but it's when you start talking equality that I have to disagree. The GOP sucks way harder and is willing to violate far more norms than their Democratic counterparts to get what they want, such as being very open about the fact that the evidence would not have made a difference in the slightest if they got to acquit their boy who did very bad things.

At this point in the game, both parties suck big time.

A cold, dull, and unnuanced take. Boo.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

According to this, Pelosi resisted on transmitting the articles of impeachment to the Senate. She eventually had to, because several of the members started breaking with her on this resistance.

If you want to start a procedure, one of the very first things that need to be transmitted are the articles.

They were trying to get a deal that would allow witnesses to happen during the Senate trial, because not allowing them in the first place was outside the norm.

I'm down for saying both parties suck, but it's when you start talking equality that I have to disagree. The GOP sucks way harder and is willing to violate far more norms than their Democratic counterparts to get what they want, such as being very open about the fact that the evidence would not have made a difference in the slightest if they got to acquit their boy who did very bad things.

See, you were doing pretty good until you shot their motive for a cover-up in the foot.

If an SS guard wanted to shoot a man, he would hardly need to blacken his face to do it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

At this point in the game, both parties suck big time.

A cold, dull, and unnuanced take. Boo.

There's nothing much to say there, really. Because the parties have turned into that, dull, cold and un-nuanced institutions. Neither party is really, at this point, representing you or me. And I vote democrat.

[Valrifell]

They were trying to get a deal that would allow witnesses to happen during the Senate trial, because not allowing them in the first place was outside the norm.

I'm down for saying both parties suck, but it's when you start talking equality that I have to disagree. The GOP sucks way harder and is willing to violate far more norms than their Democratic counterparts to get what they want, such as being very open about the fact that the evidence would not have made a difference in the slightest if they got to acquit their boy who did very bad things.

See, you were doing pretty good until you shot their motive for a cover-up in the foot.

I'm not following.

[Valrifell]

A cold, dull, and unnuanced take. Boo.

There's nothing much to say there, really. Because the parties have turned into that, dull, cold and un-nuanced institutions. Neither party is really, at this point, representing you or me. And I vote democrat.

You're not wrong, but then again no US political party could adequately represent me.

But I did the calculus, and decided that one party is the antithesis to my beliefs where as one is, at best, lukewarmly receptive to them with some elements that nearly agree with me quite solidly.

Thus, I conclude that one is significantly worse, even if they're both corrupted institutions. I see one as redeemable.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

There's nothing much to say there, really. Because the parties have turned into that, dull, cold and un-nuanced institutions. Neither party is really, at this point, representing you or me. And I vote democrat.

You're not wrong, but then again no US political party could adequately represent me.

But I did the calculus, and decided that one party is the antithesis to my beliefs where as one is, at best, lukewarmly receptive to them with some elements that nearly agree with me quite solidly.

Thus, I conclude that one is significantly worse, even if they're both corrupted institutions. I see one as redeemable.

Clean them up and then, maybe, I'd see your point.

[Bear Stearns]

I frequently chew tobacco in my office and it helps me get through the day when all I do is monkey on excel and get yelled at by clients

[Fartsniffage]

How did the Democratic minority break impeachment articles? And what does that sentence even mean?

According to this, Pelosi resisted on transmitting the articles of impeachment to the Senate. She eventually had to, because several of the members started breaking with her on this resistance.

If you want to start a procedure, one of the very first things that need to be transmitted are the articles.

Of course she did. She had no faith that the senate would try the case fairly. And she was right.