MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[Major-Tom]

I think she's disliked by the left largely because she tends to stay quiet on crucial votes until the last second. She's never bold or blunt, she generally tries to cower when a polarizing vote comes before quietly writing a blank check for the Trump administration. At least most vulnerable Republican Senators have the balls to just say what their positions are, Collins just meekly tries to find a statement in the mushy middle before voting the same way as the rest of the GOP.

When she does break with the GOP, it is more likely to be on policy like healthcare or something, rather than holding individuals accountable. So yeah, different track record than Romney.

Right, and credit where credits due, I don't think she's this malicious caricature that some have made her out to be. And voting your conscience on domestic policy is still admirable - I think it's just somewhat a sign of cowardice that she's only willing to break on low-publicity issues. Certainly a different track record.

I think the Kavanaugh case was a prime example - Murkowski, already politically vulnerable, decided to vote no on his confirmation anyways. Collins angled in a way to make it seem like she was "torn" or "conflicted," but ultimately she showed no hesitation in her vote.

[The East Marches II]

if u think trump is the leader of a cult i think u need common sense check

So why does Romney need to be tossed from the party?

Why do you and Gauth whine about moderate Democrats?

[Hakons]

Do you want me to trawl the thread for the prevailing liberal sentiment against Sen. Collins? It's less ideological disagreement, and more spineless dirtbag.

Did I say anything about Collins?

I don't think so, but many liberals certainly did.

Do you want me to trawl the thread for the prevailing liberal sentiment against Sen. Collins? It's less ideological disagreement, and more spineless dirtbag.

I think she's disliked by the left largely because she tends to stay quiet on crucial votes until the last second. She's never bold or blunt, she generally tries to cower when a polarizing vote comes before quietly writing a blank check for the Trump administration. At least most vulnerable Republican Senators have the balls to just say what their positions are, Collins just meekly tries to find a statement in the mushy middle before voting the same way as the rest of the GOP.

She was crucial in saving Obamacare. But, as you described more or less in your own words, she's considered to be a spineless Republican. It doesn't matter she saved the ACA, she's still lopped over the head for being one of them. If she wasn't moderate, you guys would be talking about her and insulting her much less.

[Major-Tom]

So why does Romney need to be tossed from the party?

Why do you and Gauth whine about moderate Democrats?

Ehh, I mean, a lot of Dems might whine about Manchin or Sinema, but ultimately I've yet to see calls for them to be expelled from the party.

[Vassenor]

So why does Romney need to be tossed from the party?

Why do you and Gauth whine about moderate Democrats?

-sniffs-

Smells like deflection.

[Rainbowsix]

1st article 48-52 not guilty of abuse of power

[The East Marches II]

Why do you and Gauth whine about moderate Democrats?

-sniffs-

Smells like deflection.

I'm just outing your hypocrisy. Go ahead Vassenor, explain the difference :^)

You aren't a cultist right?

[Major-Tom]

Did I say anything about Collins?

I don't think so, but many liberals certainly did.

I think she's disliked by the left largely because she tends to stay quiet on crucial votes until the last second. She's never bold or blunt, she generally tries to cower when a polarizing vote comes before quietly writing a blank check for the Trump administration. At least most vulnerable Republican Senators have the balls to just say what their positions are, Collins just meekly tries to find a statement in the mushy middle before voting the same way as the rest of the GOP.

She was crucial in saving Obamacare. But, as you described more or less in your own words, she's considered to be a spineless Republican. It doesn't matter she saved the ACA, she's still lopped over the head for being one of them. If she wasn't moderate, you guys would be talking about her and insulting her much less.

She's a vulnerable Republican who has shown to be bipartisan in the past, so it's obvious we'd hold her to a higher standard. I mean, I already know the positions of most GOP Senators, I'd never expect an Inhofe or a Graham to do anything meaningful, bold or worthwhile. Collins and other so called "moderates" have bucked their own party before, so it's more disappointing when they don't do so on crucial, historical votes such as this one.

[Vassenor]

-sniffs-

Smells like deflection.

I'm just outing your hypocrisy. Go ahead Vassenor, explain the difference :^)

You aren't a cultist right?

So not just a deflection. A Tu Quoque deflection.

[Hakons]

I don't think so, but many liberals certainly did.



She was crucial in saving Obamacare. But, as you described more or less in your own words, she's considered to be a spineless Republican. It doesn't matter she saved the ACA, she's still lopped over the head for being one of them. If she wasn't moderate, you guys would be talking about her and insulting her much less.

She's a vulnerable Republican who has shown to be bipartisan in the past, so it's obvious we'd hold her to a higher standard. I mean, I already know the positions of most GOP Senators, I'd never expect an Inhofe or a Graham to do anything meaningful, bold or worthwhile. Collins and other so called "moderates" have bucked their own party before, so it's more disappointing when they don't do so on crucial, historical votes such as this one.

Being moderate doesn't mean you vote with the other party all the time on major votes. You're mad that she's a Republican and for the most part votes like a Republican. She's brave when she votes what you want: liberal, and she's a "so called 'moderate'" and "disappointing" when she votes against what you want: conservative. The standard is pretty clear to me, and probably clear for her too.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

But the GOP is not a Trumpist cult. Totally.

if u think trump is the leader of a cult i think u need common sense check

Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty... yeah sure.

[Rainbowsix]

awaiting democrats crying... please wait

[Albrenia]

1st article 48-52 not guilty of abuse of power

Pretty much as expected.

[Vassenor]

awaiting democrats crying... please wait

You'll be waiting a while.

Liberal Salt Addiction apparently warps reality.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I'm just outing your hypocrisy. Go ahead Vassenor, explain the difference :^)

You aren't a cultist right?

So not just a deflection. A Tu Quoque deflection.

We are all Political Junkies on NS, if not we would not be on NS with our nations. Both Vassenor and Gormwood have called me a cultist, a resident cultist and a Trump cultist for my strong support of President Trump, as a Proud Republican. But they strongly support the Democrats. But they strongly oppose President Trump. I am not a cultist of any kind. Their is no difference in my support for President Trump and the Republicans and their support for the Democrats and opposition to President Trump and the Republicans. If I am a cultist for strongly supporting President Trump, than all who strongly support the Democrats are cultists too. Than all who strongly oppose President Trump are cultists too. Than we are all cultists for strongly supporting our favorite Political Party and Politicians. I am not a cultist of any kind.

I have been called evil, a deplorable, a snowflake, a cultist, a resident cultist, a Trump cultist and a liar and it must sock to be me for lying so much, for my strong support of President Trump by the Democrats and Anti Trumpers on this thread. Who strongly support the Democrats. Who strongly oppose President Trump.

When I Proved my Post and case to the certain fellow nation who called me a liar, with a video link of the Ambassadors statements to the Republicans on the inquiry committee hearings we all saw and heard, admitting their anti Trump statements were based on their presumptions and assumptions not their facts, and they even made a few Pro Trump comments, I asked him for an apology, and stated I would thank him on the thread for it. I have never received the apology for proving that I did not lie.

[Major-Tom]

She's a vulnerable Republican who has shown to be bipartisan in the past, so it's obvious we'd hold her to a higher standard. I mean, I already know the positions of most GOP Senators, I'd never expect an Inhofe or a Graham to do anything meaningful, bold or worthwhile. Collins and other so called "moderates" have bucked their own party before, so it's more disappointing when they don't do so on crucial, historical votes such as this one.

Being moderate doesn't mean you vote with the other party all the time on major votes. You're mad that she's a Republican and for the most part votes like a Republican. She's brave when she votes what you want: liberal, and she's a "so called 'moderate'" and "disappointing" when she votes against what you want: conservative. The standard is pretty clear to me, and probably clear for her too.

I'm sort of conceding here that most "liberals" hold her to a higher standard than the rest of her party. That alone should say that I respect her far more than most of the jagoffs in the GOP delegation of Congress.

The standard is a universal one, if you excite a group of people now and again, it feels worse when they disappoint. That's just common fact, really.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

awaiting democrats crying... please wait :P

You'll be waiting a while.

Liberal Salt Addiction apparently warps reality.

And we're the ones without common sense apparently. Did anybody check if the collected sayings of Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda and Public Information of the Greater German Reich got sold out in the USA between 2012 and 2016?

[The East Marches II]

I'm just outing your hypocrisy. Go ahead Vassenor, explain the difference :^)

You aren't a cultist right?

So not just a deflection. A Tu Quoque deflection.

Calling somebody out for being a terrible hypocrite is hardly a fallacy. It is like pointing out the slippery slope of your police state support which always turns out to be true. Go ahead, explain how calling them diet Republicans or diet Tories is different from the Romney treatment. I want to hear your defense :^)

[Major-Tom]

awaiting democrats crying... please wait

Honestly, no Democrat expected Trump to be impeached. It's meaningless, and I don't expect a lot of crying over it from anyone.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

1st article 48-52 not guilty of abuse of power

And thus 52 personages in the United States have now committed perjury against the United States in broad daylight. Unfortunately nobody's there to hold them to the law.

[Rainbowsix]

47 53 not guilty 2nd article

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

1st article 48-52 not guilty of abuse of power

And thus 52 personages in the United States have now committed perjury against the United States in broad daylight. Unfortunately nobody's there to hold them to the law.

47 53 not guilty 2nd article

Make that 53 then.

[Rainbowsix]

hhahaha i can feel their losing... waited 3 years 4 this and failed like the losers the dems are

[Gormwood]

Why do you and Gauth whine about moderate Democrats?

-sniffs-

Smells like deflection.

He's having bait withdrawal again.

[Albrenia]

hhahaha i can feel their losing... waited 3 years 4 this and failed like the losers the dems are

Heheh. Whatever makes you happy bro.

Nobody expected it to happen, and the Impeachment happened, which was the symbolic goal.