MAGAThread XVIII: The Authority Is Total

[San Lumen]

Hence why we are having an investigation. Innocent people don’t block witnesses nor intimidate them.

And of course intimidating witnesses is in and of itself a felony, which confessed felon Donald Trump has committed publicly.

And republicans in congress clearly don’t care.

[Totenborg]

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[Gormwood]

It's almost like you have no idea what's happening. No, it's exactly like that.

The fucking ignorance coming out of the corners of GOP support is astounding and deeply frustrating.

The GOP has become The Cult of Trump.

[Farnhamia]

You all cant seem to understand and accept many persons disagree with your so called evidence against President Trump by the Democrats.

While it is true right wingers and Pro Trumpers are a minority on this tread and the forum. While leftists and anti Trumpers are a majority on this thread and on this forum. According to the Poll of this thread so far out of 200 persons. 67 persons 33.50 % disagree with you all on President Trump. So you guys have just called 67 Persons all the names and terms you have called me on this thread, for disagreeing with you guys on President Trump and the Impeachment by the Democrats against him. Personally it does not bother me and I don't care. But I cant speak for the other 66 persons.

005 - 02.50 %
067 - 33.50 %
128 - 64.00 %
200 - total votes.

I Rest my case and points again.

While I am not allowed to link to my regional polls. I can share the results of the poll. So far 3 Trump supporters and 7 Trump opponents have stated, they cant change the other sides minds with the evidence they have presented to the other side, from the house impeachment process against President Trump. Proving another one of my points. what a coincidence it is very similar to the results of the Poll on this thread. 3 - 30 % and 7 - 70 % of the 10 persons who voted so far.

As an accountant by profession, I love math and statistics, so I love doing this kind of stuff, as I say on my sigs.

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Not funny and not helpful. Knock it off.

[Zurkerx]

It's almost like you have no idea what's happening. No, it's exactly like that.

The fucking ignorance coming out of the corners of GOP support is astounding and deeply frustrating.

Well, people are willing to believe it so they'll keep running with it. After all, people seemed to haven't figured it out.

That's actually incorrect: a plurality do but not a majority based on the polls being tracked by 538.

A majority, at least, can found in support of starting the impeachment process (538 has them at 51%)

Well yes, a majority support the inquiry but he was talking about impeachment and removal, not the inquiry itself. Thus, he's wrong that a majority support impeach and removal. He would be right if he said those supporting the inquiry was a majority.

[Professor Irwin Corey]

And of course intimidating witnesses is in and of itself a felony, which confessed felon Donald Trump has committed publicly.

And republicans in congress clearly don’t care.

What ever happened to all of the GOP moral majority evangelical Bible thumping ten commandment morning sermonette folks?

All I can figure is most of those people must have been faking it, or they have these dual personalities which clearly remain in control for years and years at a time before fluctuating back to the alternate.

[Kowani]

And republicans in congress clearly don’t care.

What ever happened to all of the GOP moral majority evangelical Bible thumping ten commandment morning sermonette folks?

All I can figure is most of those people must have been faking it, or they have these dual personalities which clearly remain in control for years and years at a time before fluctuating back to the alternate.

The other personalities are with their mistresses.

[Greater Hunnia]

As a European I don't care much about the US' internal affairs, what matters to me is that despite the saber-rattling, Trump did not start yet another war, neither openly nor via covert operations. I'm somewhat concerned that anyone else, both Democrats and Republicans, would either escalate the conflict in Syria or start a war against Iran, and for this reason, I'd prefer Trump to remain in office.

[Vassenor]

As a European I don't care much about the US' internal affairs, what matters to me is that despite the saber-rattling, Trump did not start yet another war, neither openly nor via covert operations. I'm somewhat concerned that anyone else, both Democrats and Republicans, would either escalate the conflict in Syria or start a war against Iran, and for this reason, I'd prefer Trump to remain in office.

We're talking about someone who thinks the US should make more casual use of its nuclear arsenal.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

Maybe people should give greater Miami shores a break. I mean without him, the “discussion” would reach its logical conclusion fairly quickly, ending it...

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Maybe people should give greater Miami shores a break. I mean without him, the “discussion” would reach its logical conclusion fairly quickly, ending it...

Without the extremes, the discussions could actually go into depth. Rather than constantly going back to 'is Trump beyond all repercussions?'.

For example, there are interesting discussions to be had on whether Trump should be charged for his obstruction of justice in the Mueller investigation. I think he should, since he should be held accountable for every single crime in his presidency, but others might disagree. One conviction is enough, after all.

[The JELLEAIN Republic]

Maybe people should give greater Miami shores a break. I mean without him, the “discussion” would reach its logical conclusion fairly quickly, ending it...

Without the extremes, the discussions could actually go into depth. Rather than constantly going back to 'is Trump beyond all repercussions?'.

For example, there are interesting discussions to be had on whether Trump should be charged for his obstruction of justice in the Mueller investigation. I think he should, since he should be held accountable for every single crime in his presidency, but others might disagree. One conviction is enough, after all.

And Therin lies the republicans (and Russia’s) true strategy.

[Valrifell]

The fucking ignorance coming out of the corners of GOP support is astounding and deeply frustrating.

Well, people are willing to believe it so they'll keep running with it. After all, people seemed to haven't figured it out.

A majority, at least, can found in support of starting the impeachment process (538 has them at 51%)

Well yes, a majority support the inquiry but he was talking about impeachment and removal, not the inquiry itself. Thus, he's wrong that a majority support impeach and removal. He would be right if he said those supporting the inquiry was a majority.

Those two numbers are oft conflated round these parts, so I found it helpful to still point it out.

[Valrifell]

Maybe people should give greater Miami shores a break. I mean without him, the “discussion” would reach its logical conclusion fairly quickly, ending it...

Without the extremes, the discussions could actually go into depth. Rather than constantly going back to 'is Trump beyond all repercussions?'.

For example, there are interesting discussions to be had on whether Trump should be charged for his obstruction of justice in the Mueller investigation. I think he should, since he should be held accountable for every single crime in his presidency, but others might disagree. One conviction is enough, after all.

Keeping the charges slim and focused makes it easier to create a better and more adaptable media narrative. If you start opening charges related to Mueller, which the public didn't care about, then you risk opening the process up to accusations of Dems fishing around and throwing whatever might stick at a wall.

Makes 'em look bad, even if they're right.

[San Montalbano]

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/ ... tes-072972

Not looking good for impeachment

[Fartsniffage]

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/11/22/democrats-house-impeachment-moderates-072972

Not looking good for impeachment

It must be terrible when a President is a criminal but one might not get elected again. The US system is broken.

[The East Marches II]

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/11/22/democrats-house-impeachment-moderates-072972

Not looking good for impeachment

It must be terrible when a President is a criminal but one might not get elected again. The US system is broken.

*ahem*

I told them so :^)

[San Montalbano]

It must be terrible when a President is a criminal but one might not get elected again. The US system is broken.

*ahem*

I told them so :^)

Moderate Dems and Independents: throw impeachment into the fire, destroy it!!!

Schiff and friends look over the lava before turning around: No.....

[The Black Forrest]

*ahem*

I told them so :^)

Moderate Dems and Independents: throw impeachment into the fire, destroy it!!!

Schiff and friends look over the lava before turning around: No.....

Not a dem but I say continue the review. Guy is corrupt as a hell.....

[San Lumen]

Moderate Dems and Independents: throw impeachment into the fire, destroy it!!!

Schiff and friends look over the lava before turning around: No.....

Not a dem but I say continue the review. Guy is corrupt as a hell.....

Ads mean nothing. Polling does

[Zurkerx]

Moderate Dems and Independents: throw impeachment into the fire, destroy it!!!

Schiff and friends look over the lava before turning around: No.....

Not a dem but I say continue the review. Guy is corrupt as a hell.....

We should see more polling throughout the week on impeachment so that'll give us an idea on how things are going. But let's assume Democrats decide not to impeach: I think it'll serve as a booster to their base to come out in full swing. Of course, Trump's base will come out in full swing but if Democrats can come out in the right States and nominate the right Candidate, they could pull off a victory. 2020 will likely result in high turnout.

In the meantime, we should continue the review. This week we won't see much due to the holiday week but the following week I think we can see the likes of Parnas, especially with the evidence he claims to have. Bolton is unlikely but if that court rules he can testify, expect him and another to come forward.

[Valrifell]

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/11/22/democrats-house-impeachment-moderates-072972

Not looking good for impeachment

It must be terrible when a President is a criminal but one might not get elected again. The US system is broken.

The entire culture of the US is broken when proveable and citable facts aren't a good enough "counterattack" for your constituents.

[Valrifell]

*ahem*

I told them so :^)

Moderate Dems and Independents: throw impeachment into the fire, destroy it!!!

Schiff and friends look over the lava before turning around: No.....

The fascist hates checks and balances against an executive.

Quelle suprise.

[San Montalbano]

It must be terrible when a President is a criminal but one might not get elected again. The US system is broken.

The entire culture of the US is broken when proveable and citable facts aren't a good enough "counterattack" for your constituents.

“Provable” and “citable facts”

They have cited “i heard” and “i presume” lol

[Gormwood]

Not a dem but I say continue the review. Guy is corrupt as a hell.....

We should see more polling throughout the week on impeachment so that'll give us an idea on how things are going. But let's assume Democrats decide not to impeach: I think it'll serve as a booster to their base to come out in full swing. Of course, Trump's base will come out in full swing but if Democrats can come out in the right States and nominate the right Candidate, they could pull off a victory. 2020 will likely result in high turnout.

In the meantime, we should continue the review. This week we won't see much due to the holiday week but the following week I think we can see the likes of Parnas, especially with the evidence he claims to have. Bolton is unlikely but if that court rules he can testify, expect him and another to come forward.

The Democrats shouldn't pussy out on impeachment with what's been revealed so far, I mean we expect the Republicans to protect Trump on pure partisanship alone and the last thing we need is the Democrats goatseing for them. Besides which if they vote to impeach that would turn the Scandal Key on Lichtman's prognostication which is nothing to sneeze at.