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by Gravlen » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:27 am
by Asle Leopolka » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:30 am
Gravlen wrote:I don't remember who originally posted this in the MAGA thread, but it deserves a repost here since it's going through the document which set off the impeachment process:
The Whistleblower Complaint Has Largely Been Corroborated. Here's How.
by Valrifell » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:32 am
Asle Leopolka wrote:Gravlen wrote:I don't remember who originally posted this in the MAGA thread, but it deserves a repost here since it's going through the document which set off the impeachment process:
The Whistleblower Complaint Has Largely Been Corroborated. Here's How.
Here's my question - does the Senate actually care? Graham has become Trump's gimp so I can't take anything he says seriously, but I'd wager McConnell is going to do everything he can to keep Trump in office.
by Asle Leopolka » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:42 am
Valrifell wrote:Asle Leopolka wrote:Here's my question - does the Senate actually care? Graham has become Trump's gimp so I can't take anything he says seriously, but I'd wager McConnell is going to do everything he can to keep Trump in office.
McConnell has said that he'll do his best to keep the trial speedy, meaning a quick aquittal.
Though it is possible for only three Senate Senate Republicans to defect when setting rules for the trial to absolutely fuck with McConnell's ethically dubious plans.
by Zurkerx » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:44 am
Asle Leopolka wrote:Valrifell wrote:
McConnell has said that he'll do his best to keep the trial speedy, meaning a quick aquittal.
Though it is possible for only three Senate Senate Republicans to defect when setting rules for the trial to absolutely fuck with McConnell's ethically dubious plans.
Romney is definitely going to vote against him. Susan Collins is a crapshoot, especially since she's up for reelection next year. I don't know who else would be willing to flip, though.
by Zurkerx » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:45 am
Gravlen wrote:I don't remember who originally posted this in the MAGA thread, but it deserves a repost here since it's going through the document which set off the impeachment process:
The Whistleblower Complaint Has Largely Been Corroborated. Here's How.
by The united American-Isreali empire » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:47 am
by Greater Miami Shores » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:50 am
The united American-Isreali empire wrote:I support POTUS and I think this is a witch Hunt on Trump and his supporters.
by Greater Miami Shores » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:02 am
by Aclion » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:09 am
Zurkerx wrote:
It's no surprise: the country is deeply divided and partisan. However, this should be more concerning:
Few respondents, however, told pollsters they plan on tuning into the first public impeachment hearings on Capitol Hill in 21 years.
Just 27 percent said it’s “very likely” they will watch, with another 31 percent saying it’s “somewhat likely.” Thirty-three percent say it’s not likely they’ll watch the impeachment hearings at all.
Which is beneficial to Trump at first because if people aren't going to bother to pay attention, then it takes some pressure off of Republicans. Hopefully people we'll read the news updates.
by Asle Leopolka » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:10 am
Zurkerx wrote:Asle Leopolka wrote:Romney is definitely going to vote against him. Susan Collins is a crapshoot, especially since she's up for reelection next year. I don't know who else would be willing to flip, though.
Murkowski is another: she did vote against Kanavaugh after all and was the third Senator not sign that Resolution in the Senate Condemning the House Process on Impeachment.
by Zurkerx » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:22 am
Asle Leopolka wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
Murkowski is another: she did vote against Kanavaugh after all and was the third Senator not sign that Resolution in the Senate Condemning the House Process on Impeachment.
Right. But I've read she could be vulnerable to a more conservative challenger down the road. She's not up for reelection until 2022, though, so this would certainly be a calculated risk on her part. Specifically, will people remember, forgive, and/or care by that point.
by Asle Leopolka » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:29 am
Zurkerx wrote:Asle Leopolka wrote:Right. But I've read she could be vulnerable to a more conservative challenger down the road. She's not up for reelection until 2022, though, so this would certainly be a calculated risk on her part. Specifically, will people remember, forgive, and/or care by that point.
The thing is, Alaska does have a good streak of individualism and she maintains a steady support. Alaskans also have a tendency to support "independent" politicians:
Experts on Alaska politics told NBC News that the state tends to reward an independent streak in its politicians.
"As far as supporting or opposing the president, we support individualism and we support individual freedom of expression. And that goes for our politicians, too, whatever party they are," said Tuckerman Babcock, who retired as the chairman of the Alaska GOP last year. "Republicans here may disagree with her on certain things, but I can say safely that they respect her independence of judgment."
After all, she lost her primary back in 2010 I believe, ran anyway and still won. I don't think she'll have to worry too much.
by Greater Miami Shores » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:56 am
by The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:58 am
The united American-Isreali empire wrote:I support POTUS and I think this is a witch Hunt on Trump and his supporters.
by -Astoria » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:04 am
Farnhamia wrote:We hope that this thread will have only impeachment-related posts but we do understand that three will be overlap between this and the MAGAThread and the Election megathread.
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by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:09 am
-Astoria wrote:Farnhamia wrote:We hope that this thread will have only impeachment-related posts but we do understand that three will be overlap between this and the MAGAThread and the Election megathread.
Bold text mine - bit of an error there, methinks...
Now for my personal bit - I think that there should be more transparency in what's going on, to be honest.
by Zurkerx » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:29 am
Asle Leopolka wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
The thing is, Alaska does have a good streak of individualism and she maintains a steady support. Alaskans also have a tendency to support "independent" politicians:
Experts on Alaska politics told NBC News that the state tends to reward an independent streak in its politicians.
"As far as supporting or opposing the president, we support individualism and we support individual freedom of expression. And that goes for our politicians, too, whatever party they are," said Tuckerman Babcock, who retired as the chairman of the Alaska GOP last year. "Republicans here may disagree with her on certain things, but I can say safely that they respect her independence of judgment."
After all, she lost her primary back in 2010 I believe, ran anyway and still won. I don't think she'll have to worry too much.
And it was the state that brought us....
by The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:12 am
by The Archregimancy » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:22 am
Valrifell wrote:Asle Leopolka wrote:Here's my question - does the Senate actually care? Graham has become Trump's gimp so I can't take anything he says seriously, but I'd wager McConnell is going to do everything he can to keep Trump in office.
McConnell has said that he'll do his best to keep the trial speedy, meaning a quick aquittal.
by The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:25 am
The Archregimancy wrote:Valrifell wrote:
McConnell has said that he'll do his best to keep the trial speedy, meaning a quick aquittal.
That's not entirely in McConnell's power.
The person presiding over the trial will be Chief Justice John Roberts, not Mitch McConnell. And while Roberts is undoubtedly right of centre by US standards, he also seems to genuinely care about his reputation, the reputation of the Supreme Court, and the constitution of the United States; there's no sign that he's a signed-up member of what's become the Trump wing of American conservatism.
I stress that I'm not trying to predict what Roberts will do, but I doubt that McConnell is foolish enough to think he can push a rapid show trial and quick acquittal past the Chief Justice.
by Zurkerx » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:25 am
The Black Forrest wrote:Anybody listening to Ambassador Taylor now?
by The Black Forrest » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:28 am
Zurkerx wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:Anybody listening to Ambassador Taylor now?
Not currently no, being at work I don't have the privilege of that. I am following the updates as best as possible however. All I know is that there was a conversation where Trump asked about the investigations into the Bidens after the call.
by Cannot think of a name » Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:28 am
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