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West Leas Oros 2
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri Nov 15, 2019 6:54 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Red territory: Liberals, SJWs, Socialist, Commies, and Feminists y'all have 48/72 hours to get out!

Blue Territory: Republicans get out!

Swing area: Bloody conflict

Far right areas: *German music* Hail Hitler!

Far left Areas: Glory to the CDPR (California Democratic peoples Republic)

Whatever happens a US Breck up would be a interesting day in future history classes.

>Giving people time to get out of red territory
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The only Red territory is the PEOPLE'S RED TERRITORY
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Nov 15, 2019 7:50 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Red territory: Liberals, SJWs, Socialist, Commies, and Feminists y'all have 48/72 hours to get out!

Blue Territory: Republicans get out!

Swing area: Bloody conflict

Far right areas: *German music* Hail Hitler!

Far left Areas: Glory to the CDPR (California Democratic peoples Republic)

Whatever happens a US Breck up would be a interesting day in future history classes.

>Giving people time to get out of red territory
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IDK about other states but GA wouldn't just send killing squads to kill all the Dems.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:55 am

Grahnol wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Who am I kidding, I don't give two shits about the US.
And honestly, why should I?

That's pretty unnuanced for many reasons

Namely, like it or not, the US's position as the global superpower means that it is incredibly connected with the global political system(s) and the entire world relies on the US to maintain the international systems in place as they all often require US hands in them if they want to be global due to how much they control. Like it or not, superpowers are deeply ingrained in international politics. If one out of two falls, the rest and simply flock to the other side, but if the other side falls, the results would be catastrophic as many things that rely on the US lose connection with the now-dead US and countries will have to rebuild basically everything now that multiple agreements and treaties are put into a state of void now that the US is gone. Countries might even fight to maintain their place, and as much as I'm endlessly tired with the whole 'no war' hippie shtick, I don't think a globe in conflict is a very nice world.

Look, the fact that the US has New York City alone is already telling. It's the centre of business, finance, media, diplomacy, many organisations in the world have offices in NYC including the UN which has its headquarters there. Oh, and let's not forget cities like San Francisco, San Jose and Seattle as well as their surrounding area and numerous cities in California which are centres of technology, IoT, internet businesses, social medias and other tech/internet-related stuff. A divided America will have to reorganise everything which could take a while whilst these centres stagnate and fail to keep their ground across the world which would collectively result in worse quality of life across the world.

Now tell me, you don't care about that?


Ok, I might have been a bit irrational there.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:56 am

Would not be a bad thing I think.....
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:47 am

Arachkya wrote:Would not be a bad thing I think.....

I agree, we basically already have two Americas, we just would have to make it official.
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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:19 am

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Red territory: Liberals, SJWs, Socialist, Commies, and Feminists y'all have 48/72 hours to get out!

Blue Territory: Republicans get out!

Swing area: Bloody conflict

Far right areas: *German music* Hail Hitler!

Far left Areas: Glory to the CDPR (California Democratic peoples Republic)

Whatever happens a US Breck up would be a interesting day in future history classes.

>Imagine thinking a rich, liberal, bourgeois state like California is the face of American Communism



Whatever it is, it’s absolute garbage and headed by a single party.
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:42 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Would not be a bad thing I think.....

I agree, we basically already have two Americas, we just would have to make it official.

Why stop there?
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:51 am

Arachkya wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:I agree, we basically already have two Americas, we just would have to make it official.

Why stop there?

If we wanted we could have 55+ new natons
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:53 am

Christian Confederation wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Why stop there?

If we wanted we could have 55+ new natons

Good plan, at least one will be sane and not have the death penalty for being gay or some other absurd draconian ''law''.
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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:56 am

Arachkya wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:If we wanted we could have 55+ new natons

Good plan, at least one will be sane and not have the death penalty for being gay or some other absurd draconian ''law''.


Nations may pool along ethnio/politcal/religous lines like yugoslavia

I would expect black, white, latino ethno states to form.

Dearborn michigan would become an islamic city-state or something i imagine.
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“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:57 am

San Montalbano wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Good plan, at least one will be sane and not have the death penalty for being gay or some other absurd draconian ''law''.


Nations may pool along ethnio/politcal/religous lines like yugoslavia

I would expect black, white, latino ethno states to form.

Dearborn michigan would become an islamic city-state or something i imagine.

No idea. :D
There is no divine feminine.

My nations policies are not economic, but a deliberate attempt to kill of the spirits and the sacred forests of the Pagan rebels.

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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 11:58 am

Arachkya wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Nations may pool along ethnio/politcal/religous lines like yugoslavia

I would expect black, white, latino ethno states to form.

Dearborn michigan would become an islamic city-state or something i imagine.

No idea. :D


Funny enough, richard spencer may very welll get his future ethnostate.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:01 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Arachkya wrote:No idea. :D


Funny enough, richard spencer may very welll get his future ethnostate.

Just nuke it.
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:02 pm

Arachkya wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Funny enough, richard spencer may very welll get his future ethnostate.

Just nuke it.


And then we'll take back the colonies.

Who knows, China and Russia might get something out of it too.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well...we don't actually know. Just sort of happened one day.
Is it a reunited Yugoslavia in the 21st century? Is a rebel colony world in the far future? Is it a race of cyborg neo-life at war with any assimilating organisms they come across in the far far future? Who knows, who cares?
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:04 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Just nuke it.


And then we'll take back the colonies.

Who knows, China and Russia might get something out of it too.

Russia needs a new government first. :D
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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:09 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Just nuke it.


And then we'll take back the colonies.

Who knows, China and Russia might get something out of it too.


Russia is more likely to actually support and arm it than attack it.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:11 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
And then we'll take back the colonies.

Who knows, China and Russia might get something out of it too.


Russia is more likely to actually support and arm it than attack it.

Maybe, but their regime is a cancer that must be scorched off the globe.
There is no divine feminine.

My nations policies are not economic, but a deliberate attempt to kill of the spirits and the sacred forests of the Pagan rebels.

My nation does NOT represent my RL views.

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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:11 pm

Arachkya wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Russia is more likely to actually support and arm it than attack it.

Maybe, but their regime is a cancer that must be scorched off the globe.


What regime?
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:13 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Maybe, but their regime is a cancer that must be scorched off the globe.


What regime?

Putins.
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My nations policies are not economic, but a deliberate attempt to kill of the spirits and the sacred forests of the Pagan rebels.

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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:14 pm

Arachkya wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
What regime?

Putins.


Good luck with that.
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Diopolis » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:21 pm

Arachkya wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
What regime?

Putins.

Because why? What exactly sets them apart from any other moderately authoritarian middle income country?
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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:32 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Arachkya wrote:Putins.

Because why? What exactly sets them apart from any other moderately authoritarian middle income country?

The whole ''gay propaganda'' nonsense.
There is no divine feminine.

My nations policies are not economic, but a deliberate attempt to kill of the spirits and the sacred forests of the Pagan rebels.

My nation does NOT represent my RL views.

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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:33 pm

Arachkya wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Because why? What exactly sets them apart from any other moderately authoritarian middle income country?

The whole ''gay propaganda'' nonsense.


Thats all it takes for you to think about “wiping them out as a cancer”

Lol edgey
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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Postby Arachkya » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:34 pm

San Montalbano wrote:
Arachkya wrote:The whole ''gay propaganda'' nonsense.


Thats all it takes for you to think about “wiping them out as a cancer”

Lol edgey

True, not denying that.
There is no divine feminine.

My nations policies are not economic, but a deliberate attempt to kill of the spirits and the sacred forests of the Pagan rebels.

My nation does NOT represent my RL views.

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Postby San Montalbano » Fri Nov 15, 2019 12:36 pm

Arachkya wrote:
San Montalbano wrote:
Thats all it takes for you to think about “wiping them out as a cancer”

Lol edgey

True, not denying that.


Surprised your hate boner dosnt apply to iran, saudi arabia, palestinians, africa etc

Your bar seems pretty low
“Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.”
“We have buried the putrid corpse of liberty”
"We have the duty, not the right, to defend our territories if the state is absent"
“The truth is that men are tired of liberty.”
Fascism is the modern states national and natural immune response to unchained capitalism and subversive Marxist ideology.

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