Future of a Divided America

[San Montalbano]

I mean like what nation, not continent.

Why does it matter?

I'm just curious

and it may offer me insight into why you hold the feelings you do, based on your home countrys history etc etc etc

[New yugoslavaia]

Why does it matter?

I'm just curious

and it may offer me insight into why you hold the feelings you do, based on your home countrys history etc etc etc

Poland.

[San Montalbano]

I'm just curious

and it may offer me insight into why you hold the feelings you do, based on your home countrys history etc etc etc

Poland.

Oh, Ive always wanted to go there, from what I hear it is a beautiful nation and it's history shows a VERY strong and independent people. I wonder what polish public opinion is on america.

[Christian Confederation]

Red territory: Liberals, SJWs, Socialist, Commies, and Feminists y'all have 48/72 hours to get out!

Blue Territory: Republicans get out!

Swing area: Bloody conflict

Far right areas: *German music* Hail Hitler!

Far left Areas: Glory to the CDPR (California Democratic peoples Republic)

Whatever happens a US Breck up would be a interesting day in future history classes.

[New yugoslavaia]

Poland.

Oh, Ive always wanted to go there, from what I hear it is a beautiful nation and it's history shows a VERY strong and independent people. I wonder what polish public opinion is on america.

You actually fell for that.

I thought you were going to talk about "muh mass immigration" and how Poland is the one of the last bastions of a pure Europe.
Probably should go there myself one day.

[San Montalbano]

Oh, Ive always wanted to go there, from what I hear it is a beautiful nation and it's history shows a VERY strong and independent people. I wonder what polish public opinion is on america.

You actually fell for that.

I thought you were going to talk about "muh mass immigration" and how Poland is the one of the last bastions of a pure Europe.
Probably should go there myself one day.

Why were you purposfully deceiving me?

[The Emerald Legion]

It's going to either fall into marxist authoritarianism(ala 1984) or collapse into anarchy anyway, just a matter of time.

Well, I'm European so I don't need to care. The only thing the US has going for it is a lot of soft power, a bloated military and that belief in "American exceptionalism."

Even croocked Hillary thinks the US is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/hillary-c ... tionalism/

America will fall like all things, and the world shall carry on.

Incorrect. America is the future.

[Bear Stearns]

Whitey comes out on top anyways

[New yugoslavaia]

Well, I'm European so I don't need to care. The only thing the US has going for it is a lot of soft power, a bloated military and that belief in "American exceptionalism."

Even croocked Hillary thinks the US is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/hillary-c ... tionalism/

America will fall like all things, and the world shall carry on.

Incorrect. America is the future.

X doubt.

[Gagium]

Who am I kidding, I don't give two shits about the US.
And honestly, why should I?

Then you're free to not post on this thread..I'm sure you observed that it's about the US by now.

[Diopolis]

I mean, it’s pretty obvious they have no intention of honoring an election which Trump won.

Obviously, I am just pointing out, given their actions, it seems their idea of "protecting american institutions" falls immediately on it's face.

The democrat party is an American institution.

[Mushet]

This map comes to mind more than talk of dividing along the lines of the pre-eminent big tent political parties.

Gold Tier: El Norte, First Nation, and The Far West

[San Montalbano]

Obviously, I am just pointing out, given their actions, it seems their idea of "protecting american institutions" falls immediately on it's face.

The democrat party is an American institution.

One that has proven to not hold democratic views by its own actions.

[Sovaal]

This map comes to mind more than talk of dividing along the lines of the pre-eminent big tent political parties.

(Image)

Gold Tier: El Norte, First Nation, and The Far West

This map is fucking ridiculous. You're telling me that rural communities in California and New York have more in common with LA and NYC than hey do with rural communities in the rest of the country, and vice versa? I'm calling bull.

[Deacarsia]

Who am I kidding, I don't give two shits about the US.
And honestly, why should I?

That is all right, the feeling is mutual.

[Rojava Free State]

Who am I kidding, I don't give two shits about the US.
And honestly, why should I?

It's going to either fall into marxist authoritarianism(ala 1984) or collapse into anarchy anyway, just a matter of time.

I wouldn't worry about Marxism or fascism too much. These ideologies and those wrongfully scape goated as holding those ideologies don't pose that much of a threat to America. I believe instead that the upper 1% of America will increasingly view the permanent underclass as a threat to their power and will increase surveillance and crack down on protests. They already did it with DAPL and occupy. Eventually, this country will collapse and that will usher in a new dark age

[Rojava Free State]

The democrat party is an American institution.

One that has proven to not hold democratic views by its own actions.

Do either of the two parties care about democracy? No, because they aren't in the business of protecting freedom. They exist to please their rich donors and increase their own power and that's it

[New yugoslavaia]

It's going to either fall into marxist authoritarianism(ala 1984) or collapse into anarchy anyway, just a matter of time.

I wouldn't worry about Marxism or fascism too much. These ideologies and those wrongfully scape goated as holding those ideologies don't pose that much of a threat to America. I believe instead that the upper 1% of America will increasingly view the permanent underclass as a threat to their power and will increase surveillance and crack down on protests. They already did it with DAPL and occupy. Eventually, this country will collapse and that will usher in a new dark age

I mean, you're not wrong. He just believes in that cultural marxism nonsense. Anything remotely left is called socialist over there. The republicans and democrats are centre right and centre respectively by Europe/international standards. Their view on politics is so warped.

[San Montalbano]

I wouldn't worry about Marxism or fascism too much. These ideologies and those wrongfully scape goated as holding those ideologies don't pose that much of a threat to America. I believe instead that the upper 1% of America will increasingly view the permanent underclass as a threat to their power and will increase surveillance and crack down on protests. They already did it with DAPL and occupy. Eventually, this country will collapse and that will usher in a new dark age

I mean, you're not wrong. He just believes in that cultural marxism nonsense. Anything remotely left is called socialist over there. The republicans and democrats are centre right and centre respectively by Europe/international standards. Their view on politics is so warped.

I didn't know we had to abide by European political standards.

[New yugoslavaia]

I mean, you're not wrong. He just believes in that cultural marxism nonsense. Anything remotely left is called socialist over there. The republicans and democrats are centre right and centre respectively by Europe/international standards. Their view on politics is so warped.

I didn't know we had to abide by European political standards.

Didn't say you had, just saying it's a lot more varied and interesting then a system that is one less party away from a dictatorship.

[San Montalbano]

I didn't know we had to abide by European political standards.

Didn't say you had, just saying it's a lot more varied and interesting then a system that is one less party away from a dictatorship.

Considering the history of Europe(and I do find the irony in this) are we really going to talk about dictatorship?

I mean, Europe had to literally be held by America in the West and Soviet Russia in the East for "peace" to be maintain

and even into the current times, europe dosn't fight because europe is covered in American bases and their military receive the american dollar.

Europe had to basically undergo American and Soviet occupation to keep them from killing eachother.

[Grahnol]

Who am I kidding, I don't give two shits about the US.
And honestly, why should I?

That's pretty unnuanced for many reasons

Namely, like it or not, the US's position as the global superpower means that it is incredibly connected with the global political system(s) and the entire world relies on the US to maintain the international systems in place as they all often require US hands in them if they want to be global due to how much they control. Like it or not, superpowers are deeply ingrained in international politics. If one out of two falls, the rest and simply flock to the other side, but if the other side falls, the results would be catastrophic as many things that rely on the US lose connection with the now-dead US and countries will have to rebuild basically everything now that multiple agreements and treaties are put into a state of void now that the US is gone. Countries might even fight to maintain their place, and as much as I'm endlessly tired with the whole 'no war' hippie shtick, I don't think a globe in conflict is a very nice world.

Look, the fact that the US has New York City alone is already telling. It's the centre of business, finance, media, diplomacy, many organisations in the world have offices in NYC including the UN which has its headquarters there. Oh, and let's not forget cities like San Francisco, San Jose and Seattle as well as their surrounding area and numerous cities in California which are centres of technology, IoT, internet businesses, social medias and other tech/internet-related stuff. A divided America will have to reorganise everything which could take a while whilst these centres stagnate and fail to keep their ground across the world which would collectively result in worse quality of life across the world.

Now tell me, you don't care about that?

[Diopolis]

One that has proven to not hold democratic views by its own actions.

Do either of the two parties care about democracy? No, because they aren't in the business of protecting freedom. They exist to please their rich donors and increase their own power and that's it

But see, the problem is all the other side’s rich donors. It’s the oil companies/entertainment industry, not both our parties being beholden to a donor class.

[West Leas Oros 2]

Red territory: Liberals, SJWs, Socialist, Commies, and Feminists y'all have 48/72 hours to get out!

Blue Territory: Republicans get out!

Swing area: Bloody conflict

Far right areas: *German music* Hail Hitler!

Far left Areas: Glory to the CDPR (California Democratic peoples Republic)

Whatever happens a US Breck up would be a interesting day in future history classes.

>Imagine thinking a rich, liberal, bourgeois state like California is the face of American Communism

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Red territory: Liberals, SJWs, Socialist, Commies, and Feminists y'all have 48/72 hours to get out!

Blue Territory: Republicans get out!

Swing area: Bloody conflict

Far right areas: *German music* Hail Hitler!

Far left Areas: Glory to the CDPR (California Democratic peoples Republic)

Whatever happens a US Breck up would be a interesting day in future history classes.

>Giving people time to get out of red territory
Liberal detected.