Latin America General : Corona Carnaval

[Pasong Tirad]

Approximately 24 hours until polls open in Chile. If I'm not mistaken, the campaign ended on Friday, with large rallies, especially in Santiago where a large pro-Approve rally took place. Unfortunately, the latest polls, taken two weeks ago, still show the Reject option winning by a wide margin.

[Bear Stearns]

If AOC wants to get people's attention and make a point about US foreign policy, she should dress up as the Chiquita banana girl.

[Shrillland]

Chile votes as we speak, the polls will close at 6 PM

[Shrillland]

Polls are now closed, here's the live results from El Mercurio(Chile's main national newspaper)

Over 15 million cast ballots today(which isn't a surprise given that voting was compulsory for this special measure).

[Shrillland]

I'm calling it, the new constitution...isn't.

Apruebo isn't leading anywhere except among expats, and the vote isn't changing anywhere else.

[Free Algerstonia]

I'm calling it, the new constitution...isn't.

Apruebo isn't leading anywhere except among expats, and the vote isn't changing anywhere else.

well maybe the website is glitching, just wait, a miracle could happen

[Superlols]

Sorry fellows, its already done

[Shrillland]

I'm calling it, the new constitution...isn't.

Apruebo isn't leading anywhere except among expats, and the vote isn't changing anywhere else.

well maybe the website is glitching, just wait, a miracle could happen

It's not glitching, 48% of the vote's already in nationwide, and reject is ahead by 1.5 million votes and in every region, even the ones who wanted a new constitution the most.

As for what'll happen now, Boric wants another go, and I think they could try again as long as the more conservative parties get a little more representation in a new convention. A lot of even centre-left voters were turned off with how ideological the proposal seemed.

EDIT: 72% and 2.2 million votes now.

[Free Algerstonia]

well maybe the website is glitching, just wait, a miracle could happen

It's not glitching, 48% of the vote's already in nationwide, and reject is ahead by 1.5 million votes and in every region, even the ones who wanted a new constitution the most.

As for what'll happen now, Boric wants another go, and I think they could try again as long as the more conservative parties get a little more representation in a new convention. A lot of even centre-left voters were turned off with how ideological the proposal seemed.

EDIT: 72% and 2.2 million votes now.

the website is probably glitching by having all the supports put in as rejects, i really despise your pessimistic attitude and i really wish you would have more hope about this

[Kilobugya]

Too bad fear-mongering and irrational propaganda won the day

Let's hope they'll manage to write a new draft that will keep most of the positive points of the new constitution but with enough changes so people will accept it... but it's hard to fight against mass-media organized propaganda.

[Pasong Tirad]

Too bad fear-mongering and irrational propaganda won the day

Let's hope they'll manage to write a new draft that will keep most of the positive points of the new constitution but with enough changes so people will accept it... but it's hard to fight against mass-media organized propaganda.

Yeah as has been pointed out, many of the people who voted to reject the current draft still want to do away with the Pinochet-era constitution. Boric is already set to meet with political party leaders to figure out a way forward. There will definitely be a new draft coming and another vote in probably a year or two. As Shrilland also pointed out, there are many points in the constitution that Chilean conservatives also really want. But this defeat will no doubt mean the next draft will be a lot less progressive than the current one. How much so, we'll find out in the coming months.

[Port Caverton]

Common South American Leftist L

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Common South American Leftist L

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

[San Lumen]

Common South American Leftist L

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

Lula needs to win. Bolsonaro is a terrible person.

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

Lula needs to win. Bolsonaro is a terrible person.

Bolsonaro did more than Lula, he delivered more land titles, water to the Brazilian northeast, new housing complexes, new highways, new bridges, and as for deforestation / burning, this has always happened, I live in Pará, in the Amazon region, and I say , this has always happened and it is not now with Lula that this will stop.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Common South American Leftist L

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

Ciro 2022!

[Port Caverton]

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

Lula needs to win. Bolsonaro is a terrible person.

From what I know Brazil will get closer to China if Lula is elected so let's take another Bolsonaro term

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

Ciro 2022!

Yes, it's also a possibility, the ciro increased from 6 to 9 percent in the polls, but I still trust, a little, but I trust Bolsonaro, I think he's not a bad person, I've had the opportunity to reach at least 20 steps from distances from him, in a rally, and he is very charismatic with his supporters, and one of the only ones who presents numbers in interviews, Ciro and Bolsonaro are the only ones who present damn numbers in interviews

[San Lumen]

Lula needs to win. Bolsonaro is a terrible person.

From what I know Brazil will get closer to China if Lula is elected so let's take another Bolsonaro term

Bolsonaro called the Amazon just a bunch of trees so screw him.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Ciro 2022!

Yes, it's also a possibility, the ciro increased from 6 to 9 percent in the polls, but I still trust, a little, but I trust Bolsonaro, I think he's not a bad person, I've had the opportunity to reach at least 20 steps from distances from him, in a rally, and he is very charismatic with his supporters, and one of the only ones who presents numbers in interviews, Ciro and Bolsonaro are the only ones who present damn numbers in interviews

He’s also a member of the Democratic Labour Party which is a Social Democratic party. I’m a Social Democrat so it works out.

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

From what I know Brazil will get closer to China if Lula is elected so let's take another Bolsonaro term

Bolsonaro called the Amazon just a bunch of trees so screw him.

Supporting a guy who said that Bolsonaro had destroyed what his Party and he had destroyed is totally being blind.

[San Lumen]

Bolsonaro called the Amazon just a bunch of trees so screw him.

Supporting a guy who said that Bolsonaro had destroyed what his Party and he had destroyed is totally being blind.

He’s a sexist and homophobic bigot and I hope Lula wins in a landslide.

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Supporting a guy who said that Bolsonaro had destroyed what his Party and he had destroyed is totally being blind.

He’s a sexist and homophobic bigot and I hope Lula wins in a landslide.

He is not homophobic, he himself has said that he even has a gay employee in his house and that he has never stopped treating him with respect, about him being sexist, I have never heard of anything like that from him, but I think this is due to the fact that he is a military, and consequently, be authoritarian.

Here is Lula's glorious speech, translate if you want: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ8fxteUX6k

[Fahran]

Common South American Leftist L

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

Lula will almost certainly win. And then proceed to change fairly little. The rainforests will continue to gradually be destroyed, crime and poverty will remain serious problems, political corruption won't go anywhere, etc. At best, poverty might have a band-aid slapped on it.

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Unfortunately, people think that the left will improve everything, I just hope that Lula doesn't win in Brazil.

Lula will almost certainly win. And then proceed to change fairly little. The rainforests will continue to gradually be destroyed, crime and poverty will remain serious problems, political corruption won't go anywhere, etc. At best, poverty might have a band-aid slapped on it.

I believe that polls are manipulated, never forget the 2018 polls, and the worst thing is that Datafolha, the already declared enemy of Bolsonaro, is responsible for these polls, not to mention that in the Lula era he bribed the entire parliament and the main broadcasters in the country, including Globo/Datafolha.