Latin America General : Corona Carnaval

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Are there any other candidates than just Bolsonaro and Lula? Because it looks like they both suck. If I was a Brazilian citizen I couldn’t vote for any of the two.

Lula's going to win so it doesn't really matter.

can win but not so easily

[The Jamesian Republic]

Honestly Bolsonaro seems like a right wing version of Lula.

[Fahran]

Lula's going to win so it doesn't really matter.

can win but not so easily

He's leading at the moment. It's his race to lose.

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

can win but not so easily

He's leading at the moment. It's his race to lose.

yes, but remember that to handle a search, all you need is a suitcase...

[Arisyan]

Honestly Bolsonaro seems like a right wing version of Lula.

Look, if you really wanna get on the "both candidates are equally bad" train, moderate social democrat Ciro Gomes is also running, though he's averaging at 10% in the polls. He's a perennial candidate, having last ran in the 2018 election where he won a respectable 25% of the vote. Though, it appears most of his voter base has gone over to Lula.

Also, a reminder that Brazil is also holding legislative elections, which have a far more diverse selection of parties to choose from and who will affect whoever becomes the President's ability to govern.

can win but not so easily

He's leading at the moment. It's his race to lose.

The only way for Lula to lose at this point is if Bolsonaro were to pull some major shenanigans with the military, which while possible, I just don't see happening. Bolsonaro is widely unpopular with the Brazilian people (and for good reason) and while Lula is certainly not clean of corruption, he's a better candidate and has enough name recognition to get a comfortable victory.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Honestly Bolsonaro seems like a right wing version of Lula.

No Dude. If Lula wins the leftists win. If Lula wins, Maduro of Venezuela wins. Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua wins. Raúl Castro Ruz and Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez of Cuba wins.

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Honestly Bolsonaro seems like a right wing version of Lula.

Look, if you really wanna get on the "both candidates are equally bad" train, moderate social democrat Ciro Gomes is also running, though he's averaging at 10% in the polls. He's a perennial candidate, having last ran in the 2018 election where he won a respectable 25% of the vote. Though, it appears most of his voter base has gone over to Lula.

Also, a reminder that Brazil is also holding legislative elections, which have a far more diverse selection of parties to choose from and who will affect whoever becomes the President's ability to govern.

He's leading at the moment. It's his race to lose.

The only way for Lula to lose at this point is if Bolsonaro were to pull some major shenanigans with the military, which while possible, I just don't see happening. Bolsonaro is widely unpopular with the Brazilian people (and for good reason) and while Lula is certainly not clean of corruption, he's a better candidate and has enough name recognition to get a comfortable victory.

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that's better?

[The Jamesian Republic]

Honestly Bolsonaro seems like a right wing version of Lula.

No Dude. If Lula wins the leftists win. If Lula wins, Maduro of Venezuela wins. Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua wins. Raúl Castro Ruz and Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez of Cuba wins.

And if Bolsonaro wins?

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

No Dude. If Lula wins the leftists win. If Lula wins, Maduro of Venezuela wins. Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua wins. Raúl Castro Ruz and Miguel Díaz-Canel Bermúdez of Cuba wins.

And if Bolsonaro wins?

If Bolsonaro wins he wins. Brazil stays a wester style, multi political party, capitalist nation, with all its faults and merits. But if Lula da Silva wins, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba's dictators win economic aid. If Lula da Silva wins, and is able to turn Brazil into another, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba, we will see millions of Brazilian exiles all over the world.

[The Jamesian Republic]

And if Bolsonaro wins?

If Bolsonaro wins he wins. Brazil stays a wester style, multi political party, capitalist nation, with all its faults and merits. But if Lula da Silva wins, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba's dictators win economic aid. If Lula da Silva wins, and is able to turn Brazil into another, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba, we will see millions of Brazilian exiles all over the world.

Okay. But they are both terrible. And I don’t any of them to win.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

If Bolsonaro wins he wins. Brazil stays a wester style, multi political party, capitalist nation, with all its faults and merits. But if Lula da Silva wins, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba's dictators win economic aid. If Lula da Silva wins, and is able to turn Brazil into another, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Cuba, we will see millions of Brazilian exiles all over the world.

Okay. But they are both terrible. And I don’t any of them to win.

You are missing the point. Maduro of Venezuela, Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua and the leaders of Cuba are dictators and will win economic aid, which helps them stay in power. If Lulu da Silva wins, he might be able to become a dictator like them, under Bolsonaro no matter how much you don't like him, Brazil stays a western style, multi political party, capitalist nation with all its faults and merits. It looks like Lula will win, there are no other choices that might win, so what is better Bolsonaro or Lula? I say Bolsonaro is better under the circumstances.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Okay. But they are both terrible. And I don’t any of them to win.

You are missing the point. Maduro of Venezuela, Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua and the leaders of Cuba are dictators and will win economic aid, which helps them stay in power. IfLulu da Silva wins, he might be able to become a dictator like them, under Bolsonaro no matter how much you don't like him, Brazil stays a western style, multi political party, capitalist nation with all its faults and merits. It looks like Lula will win, there are no other choices that might win, so what is better Bolsonaro or Lula? I say Bolsonaro is better under the circumstances.

None of them are better. Dictator admirers and copy and paste Trump are not good for a country.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

You are missing the point. Maduro of Venezuela, Daniel Ortega of Nicaragua and the leaders of Cuba are dictators and will win economic aid, which helps them stay in power. IfLulu da Silva wins, he might be able to become a dictator like them, under Bolsonaro no matter how much you don't like him, Brazil stays a western style, multi political party, capitalist nation with all its faults and merits. It looks like Lula will win, there are no other choices that might win, so what is better Bolsonaro or Lula? I say Bolsonaro is better under the circumstances.

None of them are better. Dictator admirers and copy and paste Trump are not good for a country.

I know you dont like Bolsonaro and Lula. I know you don't like Maduro and Daniel Ortega. But you keep missing my point, there are only two potential choices possible Bolsonaro and Lula. So Bolsonaro is the lesser evil choice. As Far as Republican President Donald J Trump of the USA is concerned, I GMS and us are Proud Republican Trump supporters, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, with Pride and Honor, of a great American President of the USA, according to my views and our views. I want a western style, multi political party, capitalist Cuba, with all its faults and merits, under a right wing government like Trump's and Ronald Reagan. Like Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida and Jeb Bush of Florida, for Cuba.

[The Jamesian Republic]

None of them are better. Dictator admirers and copy and paste Trump are not good for a country.

I know you dont like Bolsonaro and Lula. But you keep missing my point, there are only two potential choices possible Bolsonaro and Lula. So Bolsonaro is the lesser evil choice. As Far as Republican Donald J Trump is concerned, I GMS and us are Proud Republican Trump supporters, of a great American President of the USA, according to my views and our views. I want a western style, multi political party, capitalist Cuba, with all its faults and merits, under a right wing government like Trump's and Ronald Reagan. Like Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida and Jeb Bush of Florida, for Cuba.

Ciro Gomes and the Democratic Labour Party is better than all of them combined.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

I know you dont like Bolsonaro and Lula. But you keep missing my point, there are only two potential choices possible Bolsonaro and Lula. So Bolsonaro is the lesser evil choice. As Far as Republican Donald J Trump is concerned, I GMS and us are Proud Republican Trump supporters, of a great American President of the USA, according to my views and our views. I want a western style, multi political party, capitalist Cuba, with all its faults and merits, under a right wing government like Trump's and Ronald Reagan. Like Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida and Jeb Bush of Florida, for Cuba.

Ciro Gomes and the Democratic Labour Party is better than all of them combined.

Dude, Yes, according to you and those who agree with you. But according to the Polls Lula is going to win in Brazil, and the only two Potential candidates are Bolsonaro and Lula, so out of those two, who would you prefer would win? According to the Polls Ciro Gomes of the Democratic Labour Party, is not going to win. So who of the potential candidates would you prefer to win? Who is the lesser evil under the circumstances? I Say Bolsonaro is the lesser evil under the circumstances.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Ciro Gomes and the Democratic Labour Party is better than all of them combined.

Dude, Yes, according to you and those who agree with you. But according to the Polls Lula is going to win in Brazil, and the only two Potential candidates are Bolsonaro and Lula, so out of those two, who would you prefer would win? According to the Polls Ciro Gomes of the Democratic Labour Party, is not going to win. So who of the potential candidates would you prefer to win? Who is the lesser evil under the circumstances? I Say Bolsonaro is the lesser evil under the circumstances.

I would just not vote. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Dude, Yes, according to you and those who agree with you. But according to the Polls Lula is going to win in Brazil, and the only two Potential candidates are Bolsonaro and Lula, so out of those two, who would you prefer would win? According to the Polls Ciro Gomes of the Democratic Labour Party, is not going to win. So who of the potential candidates would you prefer to win? Who is the lesser evil under the circumstances? I Say Bolsonaro is the lesser evil under the circumstances.

I would just not vote. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to.

ok, good answer. But I would prefer the lesser evil for Brazil and the Brazilian people, I would prefer the lesser evil for the people of Venezuela, Nicaragua, Peru, Chile, El Salvador, Colombia, Honduras, Argentina, France lol, Germany, the USA, Cuba and all nations.

[Bear Stearns]

Dude, Yes, according to you and those who agree with you. But according to the Polls Lula is going to win in Brazil, and the only two Potential candidates are Bolsonaro and Lula, so out of those two, who would you prefer would win? According to the Polls Ciro Gomes of the Democratic Labour Party, is not going to win. So who of the potential candidates would you prefer to win? Who is the lesser evil under the circumstances? I Say Bolsonaro is the lesser evil under the circumstances.

I would just not vote. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to.

"i wouldn't be able to bring myself to"

you act like this is such a honerous act to begin with. who cares

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

as I said... all Brazilians better leave the country urgently because it's difficult.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

as I said... all Brazilians better leave the country urgently because it's difficult.

If Lula da Silva wins?

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

Ciro only has power in Ceará (his native state)

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

as I said... all Brazilians better leave the country urgently because it's difficult.

If Lula da Silva wins?

Research shows yes, but as I said. This guy must have a corruption scheme even in his underwear

[Shrillland]

Dude, Yes, according to you and those who agree with you. But according to the Polls Lula is going to win in Brazil, and the only two Potential candidates are Bolsonaro and Lula, so out of those two, who would you prefer would win? According to the Polls Ciro Gomes of the Democratic Labour Party, is not going to win. So who of the potential candidates would you prefer to win? Who is the lesser evil under the circumstances? I Say Bolsonaro is the lesser evil under the circumstances.

I would just not vote. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to.

Then you'll have to pay the fine. Voting's compulsory in Brazil between 18-70. Besides, Lula really isn't that bad. Yes, he's had corruption issues, but corruption doesn't phase me all that much, and Bolsonaro's been far more undemocratic, nearly having his own 1/6 moment last year. A lot of us here, and a lot of Brazilians, genuinely thought an auto-coup was imminent.

[Atlantic Federalist Republic]

I would just not vote. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to.

Then you'll have to pay the fine. Voting's compulsory in Brazil between 18-70.

Yes but we can vote white or null

[The Jamesian Republic]

I would just not vote. I wouldn’t be able to bring myself to.

Then you'll have to pay the fine. Voting's compulsory in Brazil between 18-70. Besides, Lula really isn't that bad. Yes, he's had corruption issues, but corruption doesn't phase me all that much, and Bolsonaro's been far more undemocratic, nearly having his own 1/6 moment last year. A lot of us here, and a lot of Brazilians, genuinely thought an auto-coup was imminent.

Darn. I guess I’ll vote for Ciro and let Jesus take the wheel.