Latin America General : Corona Carnaval

[The H Corporation]

Well, as it appears no one else commented about it, Mexico had a confidence referendum on whether AMLO should remain President.

As you can see in the article, it was defeated by a massive margin (93-7), with only 17% voter turnout. So even if it did somehow pass, the low turnout would have de-legitimized the referendum anyways.

The referendum was just called to run a campaign to discredit the INE, which despite sounding crazy it is actually true. The next thing you know is that they are having another campaign against Eugenio Derbez and other people for being "against the Tren Maya"

In other news, the "Reforma Energetica" of Lopez Obrador has been vetoed and now we have a bunch of bots on Twitter crying about it, send help

[Shrillland]

Well, as it appears no one else commented about it, Mexico had a confidence referendum on whether AMLO should remain President.

As you can see in the article, it was defeated by a massive margin (93-7), with only 17% voter turnout. So even if it did somehow pass, the low turnout would have de-legitimized the referendum anyways.

We didn't comment about it because there was nothing to really comment on. It was AMLO's idea to call the vote even though it's extra-constitutional if not unconstitutional and was a symbolic piece designed to show support for his energy reform amendment...which the Chamber shot down(275-225 in favour, but 334 ayes are needed)in a special session yesterday.

They'll also be voting on the creation of Lithmex today, a proposed state-run lithium monopoly.

[Arisyan]

Well, as it appears no one else commented about it, Mexico had a confidence referendum on whether AMLO should remain President.

As you can see in the article, it was defeated by a massive margin (93-7), with only 17% voter turnout. So even if it did somehow pass, the low turnout would have de-legitimized the referendum anyways.

The referendum was just called to run a campaign to discredit the INE, which despite sounding crazy it is actually true. The next thing you know is that they are having another campaign against Eugenio Derbez and other people for being "against the Tren Maya"

In other news, the "Reforma Energetica" of Lopez Obrador has been vetoed and now we have a bunch of bots on Twitter crying about it, send help

AMLO really did let down our expectations, huh. When he got elected in 2018, it seemed like Mexico might finally get the left-wing President it deserved, but he soon turned out to just be another authoritarian, corrupt populist.

[The H Corporation]

The referendum was just called to run a campaign to discredit the INE, which despite sounding crazy it is actually true. The next thing you know is that they are having another campaign against Eugenio Derbez and other people for being "against the Tren Maya"

In other news, the "Reforma Energetica" of Lopez Obrador has been vetoed and now we have a bunch of bots on Twitter crying about it, send help

AMLO really did let down our expectations, huh. When he got elected in 2018, it seemed like Mexico might finally get the left-wing President it deserved, but he soon turned out to just be another authoritarian, corrupt populist.

The truth about reality is often disappointing, not only that but their popularity despite everything is still up there. Because the opposition we have is not really an improvement...

[Kowani]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

[Arisyan]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

First based thing AMLO has done since he got elected. Only took...4 years.

[Blargoblarg]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

That's good, but now I'm worried about AMLO. When Bolivia did something similar with their lithium a few years back, there was a coup that removed Evo Morales from power not long after.

[Thermodolia]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

That's good, but now I'm worried about AMLO. When Bolivia did something similar with their lithium a few years back, there was a coup that removed Evo Morales from power not long after.

CIA coup'o'matic 5000 is a go

[The H Corporation]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

At least something, I will be laughing if they mess up this one for some reason

[Kowani]

In Brazil, The Workers Party, Communist Party, and Green Party announced the creation of a party federation called Brasil da Esperança. The federation means the three parties will compete together in every election in the country for the next four years, as well as parliamentary cooperation

[Shrillland]

In Brazil, The Workers Party, Communist Party, and Green Party announced the creation of a party federation called Brasil da Esperança. The federation means the three parties will compete together in every election in the country for the next four years, as well as parliamentary cooperation

Taking no chances for October, I see. It's still Lula's to lose of the polls are anything to go by.

[Outer Sparta]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

That's good, but now I'm worried about AMLO. When Bolivia did something similar with their lithium a few years back, there was a coup that removed Evo Morales from power not long after.

"We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it." - Elon Musk

[The H Corporation]

That's good, but now I'm worried about AMLO. When Bolivia did something similar with their lithium a few years back, there was a coup that removed Evo Morales from power not long after.

"We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it." - Elon Musk

I don't know if it's better that they coup AMLO or that AMLO should not be replaced right now. But oh well, lets see what happens

[Arisyan]

"We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it." - Elon Musk

I don't know if it's better that they coup AMLO or that AMLO should not be replaced right now. But oh well, lets see what happens

In all honesty, the replacement would be 100x worse in every capacity. The CIA never has the best interests of the countries their getting involved in mind, but rather with preserving the interests of the US.

Though, you probably already know this.

[The H Corporation]

I don't know if it's better that they coup AMLO or that AMLO should not be replaced right now. But oh well, lets see what happens

In all honesty, the replacement would be 100x worse in every capacity. The CIA never has the best interests of the countries their getting involved in mind, but rather with preserving the interests of the US.

Though, you probably already know this.

Good point

Raises a MORENA flag on the house

[Kilobugya]

In Brazil, The Workers Party, Communist Party, and Green Party announced the creation of a party federation called Brasil da Esperança. The federation means the three parties will compete together in every election in the country for the next four years, as well as parliamentary cooperation

That's a very good news.

[Fahran]

"We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it." - Elon Musk

I don't know if it's better that they coup AMLO or that AMLO should not be replaced right now. But oh well, lets see what happens

AMLO is probably one of the better options Mexico has to be honest. And I do dislike him on various grounds, mostly the autocratic tendencies masked by mass mobilization of his supporters to "protest" corrupt institutions and throwbacks to the Revolution. "Legitimate President" indeed.

[Fahran]

In Brazil, The Workers Party, Communist Party, and Green Party announced the creation of a party federation called Brasil da Esperança. The federation means the three parties will compete together in every election in the country for the next four years, as well as parliamentary cooperation

That's a very good news.

I'm not certain it'll change too much. Lula was already polling well and remains extremely popular. It might make riding his coat tails a bit easier, I suppose.

[Arisyan]

That's a very good news.

I'm not certain it'll change too much. Lula was already polling well and remains extremely popular. It might make riding his coat tails a bit easier, I suppose.

If anything, this alliance will at least hopefully force him to have to be more worker conscious and environmentally friendly, given that his VP is a right-winger.

[Fahran]

Basically, Lula is not as bad as Bolsonaro.

I mean how can you mess up that bad?

Listening to brain-rot mostly.

[Major-Tom]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

First based thing AMLO has done since he got elected. Only took...4 years.

Hot take, but ALMO has been better than most of his predecessors in his last 4 years. Low bar, but an accomplishment nonetheless.

[The Rich Port]

looks like mexico will be nationalizing lithium

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[Fahran]

Hot take, but ALMO has been better than most of his predecessors in his last 4 years. Low bar, but an accomplishment nonetheless.

That's not really a hot take. AMLO has been mediocre and a populist most of his political career. It's just that the majority of Mexico's leadership throughout history have been awful. I sometimes think that Maximiliano I remaining in power would have actually been preferable to what happened since he could have served as a moderating force for gradual change within Mexico's institutions. He also wasn't a freakin' murder-hobo. Porfirio Diaz and Lazaro Cardenas are probably the best leaders Mexico has had throughout its history if that tells you anything.

[The H Corporation]

First based thing AMLO has done since he got elected. Only took...4 years.

Hot take, but ALMO has been better than most of his predecessors in his last 4 years. Low bar, but an accomplishment nonetheless.

The first years were a pain, now it is still painful but not so much. I suppose that is something

Hot take, but ALMO has been better than most of his predecessors in his last 4 years. Low bar, but an accomplishment nonetheless.

That's not really a hot take. AMLO has been mediocre and a populist most of his political career. It's just that the majority of Mexico's leadership throughout history have been awful. I sometimes think that Maximiliano I remaining in power would have actually been preferable to what happened since he could have served as a moderating force for gradual change within Mexico's institutions. He also wasn't a freakin' murder-hobo. Porfirio Diaz and Lazaro Cardenas are probably the best leaders Mexico has had throughout its history if that tells you anything.

Porfirio Diaz being the best president is actually a hot take. He was a general that fought alongside Benito Juarez during the Second French Intervention and the Guerra de Reforma, his presidential career made Mexico a rising economic power but at the same time controlled the press, and repressed any different political thinking, repressed with violence many uprisings of the farmers, the war against the Yaquis...

I think his presidential career was good for the economy, bad for everyone else that was not on the side of Porfirio.

Maximiliano... he was too liberal for the conservatives and too conservative for the liberals. I personally don't like monarchies, especially if they come from abroad, but I can't judge him since he never came to power in the first place and I know little about his story

[Fahran]

Porfirio Diaz being the best president is actually a hot take. He was a general that fought alongside Benito Juarez during the Second French Intervention and the Guerra de Reforma, his presidential career made Mexico a rising economic power but at the same time controlled the press, and repressed any different political thinking, repressed with violence many uprisings of the farmers, the war against the Yaquis...

I think his presidential career was good for the economy, bad for everyone else that was not on the side of Porfirio.

Porfirio Diaz began as a liberal figure before consolidating power, bringing order to society, and improving the economy and infrastructure. He effectively balanced disparate interests, though this excluded the urban middle-class and the campesinos, proving disastrous for the campesinos in particular. He took a country that was a backwater and put it on an equal economic footing to the great states of Europe. He finally managed to succeed in the long-elusive goal of establishing a strong central government. His main problem is that he grew old and never decided on a formal method of succession.

Mind you, I'm not really a fan of his policies, in particular those relating to poorer rural interests, but he absolutely maintained an effective government that presided over a rapidly modernizing state. And likely set the stage for a lot of Mexico's modern economic successes.

Maximiliano... he was too liberal for the conservatives and too conservative for the liberals. I personally don't like monarchies, especially if they come from abroad, but I can't judge him since he never came to power in the first place and I know little about his story

There's actually a meme somewhere about how Maximiliano kept assuming the exact same policy positions as Benito Juarez. Maximiliano was by no means a conservative. He was a liberal in the Austrian mold who was principally hindered by his position as a foreigner installed by Napoleon III and Mexican republican sentiment. He wasn't particularly autocratic by the standards of Mexican politics, where pretty much every president who hung around long enough tried to become dictator, and he seems to have been more mild-mannered, tolerant, and gentle than most of those who preceded or succeeded him. Man died saying "May my blood flow for the good of this land. Viva Mexico!"

The problem with his government is that he was a liberal, who could thus not count on support from conservatives, and a monarch, who could thus not count on support from liberals.