Latin America General : Corona Carnaval

[Torrocca]

Anyone wanna place bets that the "reelection" in Bolivia's gonna end with the opposition party having >70% of the vote instead of the ~30% they had in the first election, as up and coming anti-democratic regimes love to do?

[Nakena]

Yes. And there's an argument to be made that they are at least indirectly involved, by way of the Organization of American States, who've enabled the coup while simultaneously stoking the flames of a new red scare.

Fuck Bolsonaro, fuck Macri, fuck Colombia's Leader, fuck Ecuador's leader, fuck Chile's leader, impeach them all.

We had something work for fucking once and people prospered, Bolivia especially needed it, they basically fucked over a people, this is against human rights.
Invade them?

Macri just got unelected. And Bolsonaro might soon be thrown out of office only to be replaced by a ultra-right hardliner vice-president who looks like a mix of General Bison and Manuel Noriega on steroids.

[Liriena]

Anyone wanna place bets that the "reelection" in Bolivia's gonna end with the opposition party having >70% of the vote instead of the ~30% they had in the first election, as up and coming anti-democratic regimes love to do?

I think that depends on what voting system we're talking about. If it's electronic voting, expect shenanigans galore.

[The East Marches II]

Fuck Bolsonaro, fuck Macri, fuck Colombia's Leader, fuck Ecuador's leader, fuck Chile's leader, impeach them all.

We had something work for fucking once and people prospered, Bolivia especially needed it, they basically fucked over a people, this is against human rights.
Invade them?

Macri just got unelected. And Bolsonaro might soon be thrown out of office only to be replaced by a ultra-right hardliner vice-president who looks like a mix of General Bison and Manuel Noriega on steroids.

This is an amazing timeline.

[The East Marches II]

What a rookie mistake. Can't even get good dictators anymore smh tbh.

Perón was the last smart South American authoritarian.

There, I said it.

Based and Peronpilled.

[Liriena]

Fuck Bolsonaro, fuck Macri, fuck Colombia's Leader, fuck Ecuador's leader, fuck Chile's leader, impeach them all.

We had something work for fucking once and people prospered, Bolivia especially needed it, they basically fucked over a people, this is against human rights.
Invade them?

Macri just got unelected.

Whatever reservations I might have about Alberto Fernández, I can't get enough of that sweet, sweet fact. Macri is gone, in the first round, after pulling every desperate stunt he could come up with to save himself. He even kissed some random old woman's feet on camera and tried to cringepost his way out of the memes against him.

[Farnhamia]

Anyone wanna place bets that the "reelection" in Bolivia's gonna end with the opposition party having >70% of the vote instead of the ~30% they had in the first election, as up and coming anti-democratic regimes love to do?

That's where anti-democratic regimes go wrong. If you're going to allow elections in the first place, don't fix them so you win by a huge amount. Nothing attracts international attention like a lopsided election. Make it look real, 53% to 47%, somewhere in that neighborhood. Mix it up a little. Slip some of your people into the opposition parties, then let one of them get elected. When they turn out to be a do-nothing, you win the next one. If there's a term limit in place, get your family elected. There are so many ways to do this that don't look like you're fixing the election.

[Liriena]

Perón was the last smart South American authoritarian.

There, I said it.

Based and Peronpilled.

As the good general said, the only truth is reality

[Loben The 2nd]

What a rookie mistake. Can't even get good dictators anymore smh tbh.

Perón was the last smart South American authoritarian.

There, I said it.

who had a mr skorzeny in as his wifes body guard.

hmmm, if those walls could talk.

[Loben The 2nd]

That's where anti-democratic regimes go wrong. If you're going to allow elections in the first place, don't fix them so you win by a huge amount. Nothing attracts international attention like a lopsided election. Make it look real, 53% to 47%, somewhere in that neighborhood. Mix it up a little. Slip some of your people into the opposition parties, then let one of them get elected. When they turn out to be a do-nothing, you win the next one. If there's a term limit in place, get your family elected. There are so many ways to do this that don't look like you're fixing the election.

Exactly, it's so obviously stupidly rigged.

the only question is what are you going to do about it?

[Liriena]

Perón was the last smart South American authoritarian.

There, I said it.

who had a mr skorzeny in as his wifes body guard.

hmmm, if those walls could talk.

Look, the 40s were weird. Things happened. Mistakes were made. Nazis crashed the presidential couch.

[Torrocca]

Anyone wanna place bets that the "reelection" in Bolivia's gonna end with the opposition party having >70% of the vote instead of the ~30% they had in the first election, as up and coming anti-democratic regimes love to do?

That's where anti-democratic regimes go wrong. If you're going to allow elections in the first place, don't fix them so you win by a huge amount. Nothing attracts international attention like a lopsided election. Make it look real, 53% to 47%, somewhere in that neighborhood. Mix it up a little. Slip some of your people into the opposition parties, then let one of them get elected. When they turn out to be a do-nothing, you win the next one. If there's a term limit in place, get your family elected. There are so many ways to do this that don't look like you're fixing the election.

The thing is, though, is that without an international or internal response to such blatant authoritarianism, there's no reason for anti-democratic regimes to make their "elections" look legitimate.

Which, of course, ends up being doubly hilarious in Bolivia's case since the people screaming most loudly about election fraud are anti-democratic assholes who are now arresting the electoral committee after couping Evo Morales.

[Loben The 2nd]

who had a mr skorzeny in as his wifes body guard.

hmmm, if those walls could talk.

Look, the 40s were weird. Things happened. Mistakes were made. Nazis crashed the presidential couch.

He was declared Denazified.

i mean a former SS commando who also oversaw the protection of the former leader of Austria, rescued Mussolini, and was declared "most dangerous man in Europe".

you could make worse decisions in terms of protection.

[Aureumterra]

Yes. And there's an argument to be made that they are at least indirectly involved, by way of the Organization of American States, who've enabled the coup while simultaneously stoking the flames of a new red scare.

Fuck Bolsonaro, fuck Macri, fuck Colombia's Leader, fuck Ecuador's leader, fuck Chile's leader, impeach them all.

Why do you want to impeach Marquez and Moreno? The economic growth is unprecedented and poverty rates have fallen like crazy. Colombia-Venezuela border cities are starting to look like North and South Korea now

[The East Marches II]

who had a mr skorzeny in as his wifes body guard.

hmmm, if those walls could talk.

Look, the 40s were weird. Things happened. Mistakes were made. Nazis crashed the presidential couch.

One day, you get a telephone call. The next day your country has a fighter jet program. These things happen.

[Liriena]

Look, the 40s were weird. Things happened. Mistakes were made. Nazis crashed the presidential couch.

One day, you get a telephone call. The next day your country has a fighter jet program. These things happen.

Big Pulqui II energy

[Loben The 2nd]

Look, the 40s were weird. Things happened. Mistakes were made. Nazis crashed the presidential couch.

One day, you get a telephone call. The next day your country has a fighter jet program. These things happen.

or one day your rocket program just disappears.

[Loben The 2nd]

or one day your rocket program just disappears.

Or you get nuked after chernobylita blows up because you went to Mcdonalds and you think to yourself
"Jesus Christ I just wanted a Taco Burger Today" before realizing you left with a small fry and no ketchup so you drive back only to get assassinated by the CIA for being too centrist and watching hentai.

what?

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Yes. And there's an argument to be made that they are at least indirectly involved, by way of the Organization of American States, who've enabled the coup while simultaneously stoking the flames of a new red scare.

fuck Colombia's Leader, fuck Ecuador's leader,

What have these guys actually done to warrant impeachment? Improve the economy?

[Aureumterra]

fuck Colombia's Leader, fuck Ecuador's leader,

What have these guys actually done to warrant impeachment? Improve the economy?

Be right of center

[Liriena]

Pretty much every South American left-of-center person and organization of note I could find has condemned what happened to Evo as a "coup d'etat", starting with Cristina Fernández and Lula.

If anything happens to Evo, and Bolivia falls into the hands of the undemocratic right, I expect 2020 to be a pretty rough year for Bolivia's relationships in the region.

[The East Marches II]

One day, you get a telephone call. The next day your country has a fighter jet program. These things happen.

Big Pulqui II energy

Honestly a fascinating concept and proof Argentina more so than Brazil should be the aircraft producer in Latin American tbh.

[Liriena]

fuck Colombia's Leader, fuck Ecuador's leader,

What have these guys actually done to warrant impeachment? Improve the economy?

Can't speak for Colombia, but Lenin Moreno is kind of a traitor.

[Liriena]

Big Pulqui II energy

Honestly a fascinating concept and proof Argentina more so than Brazil should be the aircraft producer in Latin American tbh.

We've got the people, but not the resources or the political interest for it. Story of our lives, really.

[Liriena]

Be right of center

No, the coup, they were involved apparently so...

If they were, yeah.

Can't speak for Colombia, but Lenin Moreno is kind of a traitor.

"Lenin"

"LENIN"

Ecuadorian names are amazing. I know of a few football players from there whose first name is Stalin.