Latin America General : Corona Carnaval

[Rojava Free State]

Any info on him beyond what I can find from a cursory google search? In other words, what makes him worse, so to speak?

Being part of the Labour Renewal Party, for a start. They're known for promoting conspiracy theories and are believed to have ties to South American Neo-Nazi organisations under the party's president Levy Fidelix, even with him planning to go to one of these rallies a few years back before it was canceled: https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/vida-e-cidadania/grupo-fascista-cancela-congresso-na-regiao-de-curitiba-1mgjehkdxl5yc2ompbr1e6ne2/

Holy fuck Brazil. What's with the crazy far right to the point of nazism politicians?

[Shrillland]

The TSE has once again postponed the Bolivian Elections, this time to Sunday, October 18, after the Health Ministry announced that it expects Bolivia's COVID peak to come around August 15-September 15: https://www.infobae.com/america/america-latina/2020/07/23/el-tribunal-electoral-de-bolivia-aplazo-las-elecciones-presidenciales-para-el-18-de-octubre/

So we'll be seeing two major votes in October in neighbouring countries, Bolivia and Chile.

[Fahran]

Holy fuck Brazil. What's with the crazy far right to the point of nazism politicians?

I mean this isn't exactly new for Brazil. It's the birthplace of Plinio Salgado and one of the largest quasi-fascist movements in history after all. It also played host to a lot of Nazis fleeing from Europe.

[Baltenstein]

Any info on him beyond what I can find from a cursory google search? In other words, what makes him worse, so to speak?

Being part of the Labour Renewal Party, for a start. They're known for promoting conspiracy theories and are believed to have ties to South American Neo-Nazi organisations under the party's president Levy Fidelix, even with him planning to go to one of these rallies a few years back before it was canceled: https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/vida-e-cidadania/grupo-fascista-cancela-congresso-na-regiao-de-curitiba-1mgjehkdxl5yc2ompbr1e6ne2/

A fascist dogma, I can get (It's Latin America, after all).

But what could a Brazilian Nazi possibly aim for? Ethnically cleanse 90% or so of his own countrymen?

[Fahran]

A fascist dogma, I can get (It's Latin America, after all).

But what could a Brazilian Nazi possibly aim for? Ethnically cleanse 90% or so of his own countrymen?

Brazilian Fascism is generally more about adherence to an extremely traditionalist and Catholic form of morality, economic policies influenced by integralism, a strong, authoritarian government, lionization of the military and the police, nostalgia for past military dictatorships, opposition to communism and socialism, and the maintenance of the existing social and racial hierarchy. Properly speaking, the Labour Renewal Party is more Nazi-adjacent than anything.

[Shrillland]

As was probably expected, all of Venezuela's major opposition parties are boycotting the December midterms: https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuelas-major-opposition-parties-pledge-174116145.html

[Greater Miami Shores]

As was probably expected, all of Venezuela's major opposition parties are boycotting the December midterms: https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuelas-major-opposition-parties-pledge-174116145.html

As I posted, Maduro once said, when are they the opposition going to learn the revolution is here to stay, this statement says it all. I put it nicely compared to Maduro. and the Cuban regime says we are the continuity of the revolution, very similar statements that says it all.

[Fahran]

As was probably expected, all of Venezuela's major opposition parties are boycotting the December midterms: https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuelas-major-opposition-parties-pledge-174116145.html

It makes more sense than participating in what amounts to a rigged election.

[Shrillland]

As was probably expected, all of Venezuela's major opposition parties are boycotting the December midterms: https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuelas-major-opposition-parties-pledge-174116145.html

It makes more sense than participating in what amounts to a rigged election.

Oh, absolutely. A pity that Venezuela's collapsed into Communist dictatorship...

[Mushet]

Zapata ftw

[Alcala-Cordel]

It makes more sense than participating in what amounts to a rigged election.

Oh, absolutely. A pity that Venezuela's collapsed into Communist dictatorship...

"Communist dictatorship" is an oxymoron.

[Aureumterra]

Oh, absolutely. A pity that Venezuela's collapsed into Communist dictatorship...

"Communist dictatorship" is an oxymoron.

Have you just skipped over all of 20th century history?

[Greater Miami Shores]

It makes more sense than participating in what amounts to a rigged election.

Oh, absolutely. A pity that Venezuela's collapsed into Communist dictatorship...

Like it's a pity Cuba is still communist and supported by western style democratic governments, the Democratic Party and Joe Biden. Like its' a pity Cuba helped Chávez and helps Maduro stay in power.

[Alcala-Cordel]

"Communist dictatorship" is an oxymoron.

Have you just skipped over all of 20th century history?

Dictatorships that call themselves communist are a thing, but communism is stateless and the dictatorships contradict all its base values.

[Aureumterra]

Have you just skipped over all of 20th century history?

Dictatorships that call themselves communist are a thing, but communism is stateless and the dictatorships contradict all its base values.

I’ve said this many times, it doesn’t matter what “real communism” is when every single practical example has been a complete disaster. I don’t see the merit in just trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results

[Deacarsia]

No me gustan ninguno de los generales que listado en la encuesta porque soy un derechista, pero mi general latinoamericano favorito es Augusto Pinochet.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Dictatorships that call themselves communist are a thing, but communism is stateless and the dictatorships contradict all its base values.

I’ve said this many times, it doesn’t matter what “real communism” is when every single practical example has been a complete disaster. I don’t see the merit in just trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results

Oh please. We have plenty of examples of communism working and we'd have many more if multiple capitalist countries didn't attack most of them.


The U.S. didn't spend that much money on Operation Condor to fight something that didn't work.

No me gustan ninguno de los generales que listado en la encuesta porque soy un derechista, pero mi general latinoamericano favorito es Augusto Pinochet.

Pinochet no fue un revolucionario, y la pregunta es solo sobre revolucionarios.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Being part of the Labour Renewal Party, for a start. They're known for promoting conspiracy theories and are believed to have ties to South American Neo-Nazi organisations under the party's president Levy Fidelix, even with him planning to go to one of these rallies a few years back before it was canceled: https://www.gazetadopovo.com.br/vida-e-cidadania/grupo-fascista-cancela-congresso-na-regiao-de-curitiba-1mgjehkdxl5yc2ompbr1e6ne2/

Holy fuck Brazil. What's with the crazy far right to the point of nazism politicians?

I still wonder this.

[Shrillland]

Holy fuck Brazil. What's with the crazy far right to the point of nazism politicians?

I still wonder this.

Well, as Fahran already pointed out, it's mostly an obsession with Latin traditionalism and hyper-Catholicism that makes them fall into fascist camps.

[Liriena]

No me gustan ninguno de los generales que listado en la encuesta porque soy un derechista, pero mi general latinoamericano favorito es Augusto Pinochet.

cringe

[Northern Davincia]

No me gustan ninguno de los generales que listado en la encuesta porque soy un derechista, pero mi general latinoamericano favorito es Augusto Pinochet.

cringe

Please do not slander mi general, thank you.

I’ve said this many times, it doesn’t matter what “real communism” is when every single practical example has been a complete disaster. I don’t see the merit in just trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results

Oh please. We have plenty of examples of communism working and we'd have many more if multiple capitalist countries didn't attack most of them.


The U.S. didn't spend that much money on Operation Condor to fight something that didn't work.

Which examples are you referring to?

[Region of Dwipantara]

cringe

Please do not slander mi general, thank you.

Oh please. We have plenty of examples of communism working and we'd have many more if multiple capitalist countries didn't attack most of them.


The U.S. didn't spend that much money on Operation Condor to fight something that didn't work.

Which examples are you referring to?

The Soviet Union successfully maintain Russia's imperialistic geopolitical interests for a pretty long time, subjugating half of Europe as a meat shield and made themselves one of the two global superpower. Sure, they pathetically stagnated and faltered in economics, and let's not forget about the tens of millions of death over a short period of time. But "success" is measured through parameters and the first path to success is to throw away the parameters you don't like.

In that retrospect, the Great Leap Backwards is also successful in achieving large numbers, though the form of that "success" might not be too rosy.

[Novus America]

I still wonder this.

Well, as Fahran already pointed out, it's mostly an obsession with Latin traditionalism and hyper-Catholicism that makes them fall into fascist camps.

Also it is important to note Fascism is not the same as Nazism, many Fascists were devout Catholics and the Nazis were notably anti Christian in general and anti Catholic in particular.
Nazism was an extreme (and yes Fascism already extreme) offshoot of Fascism that introduced many German specific and racialist ideas not necessarily present amongst other Fascist groups, plus opposition to traditional Christianity, and some other oddities such as Nazis actually supporting having children outside of marriage as long as the children had the “right” genes and all.

Admittedly ironically many far right claiming to be Christians Stan the Nazis, despite the anti Christian nature of Nazism. Extremists are rarely consistent or fully logical in their beliefs, mutually exclusive and conflicting concepts are common amongst various extreme groups.

[Shrillland]

All right, we're now within two months of Bolivia's general election, and there appear to be no further delays. They are, however, going to stagger the vote to avoid spreading the virus: https://www.infobae.com/america/america-latina/2020/08/21/por-el-coronavirus-el-tribunal-electoral-de-bolivia-establecio-turnos-para-votar-en-las-elecciones-del-18-de-octubre/

Anyone whose ID card number ends with 0-4 will get to vote between 8:30 AM-12:30 PM local time, anyone who ends with a 5 or higher can vote between 12:30-5:00 PM. The TSE is also advising people not to bring relatives unless they're also planning to vote and can do so during their allotted period.

Since there are no more expected delays, I'll write my normal election spiel and put it up here tonight or tomorrow alongside a primer on the Chilean vote the following week. Hopefully, Nakena can put it up on the OP when it's ready until the vote's over.

[Liriena]

cringe

Please do not slander mi general, thank you.

Pinochet was cringe and Videla failed the ultimate vibe check by dying in the toilet of a regular ass prison cell

Rafael Franco, tho? Now there's a fella who had good vibes all around