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Umeria
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Umeria » Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:51 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Umeria wrote:Why do you have the Ukraine flag as your profile if you want to be just as imperialistic towards Venezuela as Russia is to Ukraine?

Because US good, Russia bad

Good things are good and bad things are bad, regardless of whether you're good or bad overall. You are advocating for a bad thing, the same bad thing that you condemn Russia for doing.
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Port Caverton
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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Mar 08, 2022 6:54 am

Umeria wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Because US good, Russia bad

Good things are good and bad things are bad, regardless of whether you're good or bad overall. You are advocating for a bad thing, the same bad thing that you condemn Russia for doing.

I literally don't support an invasion. It's just that droning that autocrat and doing a coup would be good for Venezuela and for us.
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Postby Umeria » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:04 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Umeria wrote:Good things are good and bad things are bad, regardless of whether you're good or bad overall. You are advocating for a bad thing, the same bad thing that you condemn Russia for doing.

I literally don't support an invasion. It's just that droning that autocrat and doing a coup would be good for Venezuela and for us.

It would not be good for Venezuela, there would be a huge amount of violence and instability followed by oppression from whatever regime we install in his place.
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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:09 am

Umeria wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:I literally don't support an invasion. It's just that droning that autocrat and doing a coup would be good for Venezuela and for us.

It would not be good for Venezuela, there would be a huge amount of violence and instability followed by oppression from whatever regime we install in his place.

Because hyperinflation, a dictatorship and millions of refugees in Colombia are a massive sign of stability

/s
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Umeria
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Postby Umeria » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:14 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Umeria wrote:It would not be good for Venezuela, there would be a huge amount of violence and instability followed by oppression from whatever regime we install in his place.

Because hyperinflation, a dictatorship and millions of refugees in Colombia are a massive sign of stability

/s

Yeah, there would be much more of that if Maduro was violently overthrown.
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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:18 am

Umeria wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Because hyperinflation, a dictatorship and millions of refugees in Colombia are a massive sign of stability

/s

Yeah, there would be much more of that if Maduro was violently overthrown.

:rofl: You're joking right?
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Postby Umeria » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:20 am

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Umeria wrote:Yeah, there would be much more of that if Maduro was violently overthrown.

:rofl: You're joking right?

It's not very controversial to say that violent regime change usually makes things worse.
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Postby Port Caverton » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:23 am

Umeria wrote:
Port Caverton wrote: :rofl: You're joking right?

It's not very controversial to say that violent regime change usually makes things worse.

Are you a Maduro shill?
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Postby Umeria » Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:27 am

Port Caverton wrote:
Umeria wrote:It's not very controversial to say that violent regime change usually makes things worse.

Are you a Maduro shill?

No. "We should not make the situation worse" does not equate to supporting the current situation.
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Postby Rio Cana » Tue Mar 08, 2022 4:02 pm

Its too late to consider overthrowing the government of Ven.. Since the US stopped purchasing Russian oil they have decided to possibly restart buying oil from Ven. The Ven. Pres. is happy about this.
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Postby Arisyan » Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:49 pm

Umeria wrote:
Port Caverton wrote: :rofl: You're joking right?

It's not very controversial to say that violent regime change usually makes things worse.

He's a neoconservative, violent regime change is literally the core concept of his ideology.

Sure, it's incorrect and I heavily disagree but I'm not surprised that he's advocating for the overthrow of the Venezuelan government given what other neocons have done before in literally every single other Latin American country.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Tue Mar 08, 2022 5:57 pm

Port Caverton wrote:Daily reminder that Maduro should be drone striked

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Warriorium
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Postby Warriorium » Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:25 am

Que onda. Se me hace un poco raro que este thread esta lleno de ignorantes que ni siquiera son latino americanos o hispanohablantes. Alguien mas aqui?
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Postby Warriorium » Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:33 am

Kilobugya wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:and the multi political party democratic capitalist nations of the world not listening to the Cuban People s cry for Democracy and Freedom is inexcusable and undemocratic.


The Cuban People cry for the end of the blockade and any foreign bullying of their country. And in their overwhelming majority they support the current system and government overall (even if they can disagree with some specific points of it), get over it. Even the US "embassy" there admitted it as the Wikileaks revealed a few years ago.

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Haganham
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Postby Haganham » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:32 am

Kilobugya wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:and the multi political party democratic capitalist nations of the world not listening to the Cuban People s cry for Democracy and Freedom is inexcusable and undemocratic.


The Cuban People cry for the end of the blockade and any foreign bullying of their country. And in their overwhelming majority they support the current system and government overall (even if they can disagree with some specific points of it), get over it. Even the US "embassy" there admitted it as the Wikileaks revealed a few years ago.

Well they're in luck. They are not under a blockade.
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Postby Warriorium » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:33 am

Haganham wrote:
Kilobugya wrote:
The Cuban People cry for the end of the blockade and any foreign bullying of their country. And in their overwhelming majority they support the current system and government overall (even if they can disagree with some specific points of it), get over it. Even the US "embassy" there admitted it as the Wikileaks revealed a few years ago.

Well they're in luck. They are not under a blockade.

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Postby The H Corporation » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:44 pm

This came up this morning (。_ 。)

Periodistas critican la respuesta del Gobierno al Parlamento Europeo; el organismo condenó la violencia contra la prensa en México

Este jueves, el Parlamento Europeo aprobó una resolución para pedir que autoridades mexicanas garanticen la protección de periodistas y defensores de los derechos humanos en el país. La Cámara europea señaló que siete informadores han sido asesinados en México en lo que va del 2022 y que el país es el "más peligroso y mortífero para los periodistas fuera de una zona de guerra". En respuesta, el gobierno publicó una carta que califica de "lamentable" que los diputados europeos se sumen "a la estrategia reaccionaria y golpista del grupo corrupto que se opone a la Cuarta Transformación". Periodistas y organizaciones como Artículo 19 y ONEA han criticado el comunicado de la Presidencia y hablaron sobre los peligros que existen para miembros de la profesión.

https://twitter.com/i/events/1502217361637527557

Translation:

Journalists criticize the response of the Mexican Government to the European Parliament; The organism condemned the violence against the press in Mexico

This Thursday, the European Parliament has approved a resolution to ask for the Mexican authorities to guarantee the protection of journalists and defenders of human rights in the country. The European Chamber pointed out that seven journalists have been assassinated in Mexico in so far in 2022 and that the country is the "most dangerous and lethal for the journalists outside of a war zone". In response, the Mexican government made public a letter that qualifies as "unfortunate" that the European deputies join to "the reactionary strategy and putschist from the corrupt group that opposes the Fourth Transformation". Journalists and organizations like the 19th Article and the ONEA have criticized the release of the presidency and raised their voices about the dangers that exist for the members of the profession.
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Postby The H Corporation » Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:11 pm

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Postby Arisyan » Tue Mar 15, 2022 5:27 pm

Why does the CDP in Chile randomly decide "hey, let's leave the centre-left coalition again just because!". Is there a reason for them to support a candidate in the presidential election and then leave that coalition right after the election ends, or is it just political opportunism?
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Postby The H Corporation » Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:55 pm

Arisyan wrote:Why does the CDP in Chile randomly decide "hey, let's leave the centre-left coalition again just because!". Is there a reason for them to support a candidate in the presidential election and then leave that coalition right after the election ends, or is it just political opportunism?

It happens as well in Mexico, AMLO is a good example. He was part of PRI, then PRD then created MORENA with a bunch of ex-PAN and ex-PRI members. That is the normal and usual modus operandi of the average Latin American politician
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Postby Incelistan The Dearest » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:00 pm



I'm honestly surprised they didn't have that before. Chile tends to be pretty progressive.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:00 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Umeria wrote:Good things are good and bad things are bad, regardless of whether you're good or bad overall. You are advocating for a bad thing, the same bad thing that you condemn Russia for doing.

I literally don't support an invasion. It's just that droning that autocrat and doing a coup would be good for Venezuela and for us.


who is "us"

and no it wouldnt
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:01 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Umeria wrote:Yeah, there would be much more of that if Maduro was violently overthrown.

:rofl: You're joking right?


i dont think youre aware of how the US has historically conducted regime change in Latin America
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Postby The H Corporation » Tue Mar 15, 2022 7:03 pm

Incelistan The Dearest wrote:
The H Corporation wrote:Congratulations to Chile for finally taking a step forward into equality


I'm honestly surprised they didn't have that before. Chile tends to be pretty progressive.

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