Latin America General : Corona Carnaval

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

What have these guys actually done to warrant impeachment? Improve the economy?

Be right of center

Considering this is Latin America, everyone involved in politics has done something that would be unprecedentedly horrific in the West, and those who haven’t are likely just starting out their political career

[Loben The 2nd]

is there any evidence that the CIA did this?

[Liriena]

Be right of center

Considering this is Latin America, everyone involved in politics has done something that would be unprecedentedly horrific in the West, and those who haven’t are likely just starting out their political career

Or they're aging veterans from relatively minor parties who never had enough clout to be assimilated by the swamp.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

That's where anti-democratic regimes go wrong. If you're going to allow elections in the first place, don't fix them so you win by a huge amount. Nothing attracts international attention like a lopsided election. Make it look real, 53% to 47%, somewhere in that neighborhood. Mix it up a little. Slip some of your people into the opposition parties, then let one of them get elected. When they turn out to be a do-nothing, you win the next one. If there's a term limit in place, get your family elected. There are so many ways to do this that don't look like you're fixing the election.

The thing is, though, is that without an international or internal response to such blatant authoritarianism, there's no reason for anti-democratic regimes to make their "elections" look legitimate.

Which, of course, ends up being doubly hilarious in Bolivia's case since the people screaming most loudly about election fraud are anti-democratic assholes who are now arresting the electoral committee after couping Evo Morales.

I wouldn’t think you’d support Morales, or anyone who I support as well, huh

[Liriena]

is there any evidence that the CIA did this?

Nah, none that I've seen, and I personally tend to be a bit queasy around explanations that place the responsibility on a single institution or organization, because these things are usually a lot more complex than "CIA paid for some super hardcore astroturfing".

[Liriena]

Or they're aging veterans from relatively minor parties who never had enough clout to be assimilated by the swamp.

Oh.

So it's a Latin American thing Latin Americans accept?

Ok not racist then.

I can't speak for all Latin Americans, but I recall a poll of Argentinians which showed that the overwhelming majority of us are deeply disillusioned with our politicians, our businesspeople and even our clergy.

[Torrocca]

Holy shit, of fucking course the cries of election fraud were bullshit. It's no wonder the opposition parties began destroying ballots as soon as they decried the election as fraudulent.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Considering this is Latin America, everyone involved in politics has done something that would be unprecedentedly horrific in the West, and those who haven’t are likely just starting out their political career

Is that racism I sense?

I don’t recognize race as a concept, so it would be anti-regionalism, but that’s reality, some regions of the world are more corrupt than others, not that it's a good thing, but you can clearly see the difference in politics between regions

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Holy shit, of fucking course the cries of election fraud were bullshit. It's no wonder the opposition parties began destroying ballots as soon as they decried the election as fraudulent.

Even if it was fraud, Morales is one of the few good leaders in the region, so I wouldn’t be too mad about that

[Orostan]

Is that racism I sense?

I don’t recognize race as a concept, so it would be anti-regionalism, but that’s reality, some regions of the world are more corrupt than others, not that it's a good thing, but you can clearly see the difference in politics between regions

Race is a social construct but that doesn't mean you can't be racist. I don't think Lula, Maduro, or Morales have started wars against countries that didn't attack anyone or aided in the systemic pillage of much of the world through the IMF and World Bank. The most horrific crimes in recent history have been committed by people like George Bush and Barrack Obama.

[Orostan]

Holy shit, of fucking course the cries of election fraud were bullshit. It's no wonder the opposition parties began destroying ballots as soon as they decried the election as fraudulent.

Even if it was fraud, Morales is one of the few good leaders in the region, so I wouldn’t be too mad about that

Why is a fascist supporting a left wing leader? Shouldn't you be supporting class """"collaborationist"""" american backed governments or something?

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Even if it was fraud, Morales is one of the few good leaders in the region, so I wouldn’t be too mad about that

Why is a fascist supporting a left wing leader? Shouldn't you be supporting class """"collaborationist"""" american backed governments or something?

1. The one dimensional political spectrum is outdated, and has been ever since Mussolini was a thing

2. He may not like the tag of “fascist,” but Morales is governing as close to the Fascist Manifesto as people like Kagame, a socialist market ruled by a strong nationalists who discourages division within a country

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Why is a fascist supporting a left wing leader? Shouldn't you be supporting class """"collaborationist"""" american backed governments or something?

"Pro: Fascism, Socialism, Proletariat, Nationalism, Rhine Markets, Equality, Authoritarianism
Anti: Communism, Corporatism, Laissez-Faire Capitalism, Trump, Globalism, Racism, Democracy,"

He's a interesting person.

If you consider classical fascists as interesting, then I guess

[Orostan]

Why is a fascist supporting a left wing leader? Shouldn't you be supporting class """"collaborationist"""" american backed governments or something?

1. The one dimensional political spectrum is outdated, and has been ever since Mussolini was a thing

2. He may not like the tag of “fascist,” but Morales is governing as close to the Fascist Manifesto as people like Kagame, a socialist market ruled by a strong nationalists who discourages division within a country

1. You believe the third position is a thing that exists?

2. lol what

Morales hasn't waged class warfare on workers, he's not backed by the biggest capitalists. He's being overthrown by capitalists right now. Every fascist movement that has ever risen to power has done so with the backing of the biggest capitalists and has worked in their interests.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

1. The one dimensional political spectrum is outdated, and has been ever since Mussolini was a thing

2. He may not like the tag of “fascist,” but Morales is governing as close to the Fascist Manifesto as people like Kagame, a socialist market ruled by a strong nationalists who discourages division within a country

1. You believe the third position is a thing that exists?

2. lol what

Morales hasn't waged class warfare on workers, he's not backed by the biggest capitalists. He's being overthrown by capitalists right now. Every fascist movement that has ever risen to power has done so with the backing of the biggest capitalists and has worked in their interests.

Classical Fascism was built on third positionism, and I have no idea where you get the “wage class warfare against workers” part from. Morales is a nationalist, and his entire term is based on ending division, both racial and political, within Venezuela

[Zjaum]

I can't wait to see people talk about how a military coup against a democratically-elected government is actually a good thing. Fuck the right-wing opposition that's plagued Bolivia.

The Bolivian government has dragged its entire population through instability, hilariously bad economic decisions, and a myriad of other problems that hurt the populace. When Chile had a right-wing coup, it was, for all practical intents and purposes, harmless. 3,000 dead versus the millions that fell in equivalent left-wing regimes. A right-wing coup in Bolivia, that would mirror Chile in a transition to democracy, could be the best thing that ever happened to Bolivia.

[Hakons]

Holy shit, of fucking course the cries of election fraud were bullshit. It's no wonder the opposition parties began destroying ballots as soon as they decried the election as fraudulent.

Lol, need more evidence than a tweet. That account is also terribly biased if you see what they've been posting.

[Aureumterra]

Holy shit, of fucking course the cries of election fraud were bullshit. It's no wonder the opposition parties began destroying ballots as soon as they decried the election as fraudulent.

Lol, need more evidence than a tweet. That account is also terribly biased if you see what they've been posting.

We have come to a point of time where blue-checks on Twitter are more unreliable than troll accounts

[Hakons]

I can't wait to see people talk about how a military coup against a democratically-elected government is actually a good thing. Fuck the right-wing opposition that's plagued Bolivia.

A military coup would actually have to exist. Aside from left-wing politicians instinctively backing Morales, most people see it as discontent with the length of his tenure coming to a head.

[Aureumterra]

I can't wait to see people talk about how a military coup against a democratically-elected government is actually a good thing. Fuck the right-wing opposition that's plagued Bolivia.

A military coup would actually have to exist. Aside from left-wing politicians instinctively backing Morales, most people see it as discontent with the length of his tenure coming to a head.

Also an anarchist supporting a nationalist authoritarian

[Orostan]

1. You believe the third position is a thing that exists?

2. lol what

Morales hasn't waged class warfare on workers, he's not backed by the biggest capitalists. He's being overthrown by capitalists right now. Every fascist movement that has ever risen to power has done so with the backing of the biggest capitalists and has worked in their interests.

Classical Fascism was built on third positionism, and I have no idea where you get the “wage class warfare against workers” part from. Morales is a nationalist, and his entire term is based on ending division, both racial and political, within Venezuela

He's from Bolivia, and he constantly criticizes oligarchs. He is very much pro-worker and not in favor of class 'collaboration'. Third positionism means nothing and is just a propaganda term. Fascist governments have always upheld capitalism and attacked worker's rights. Mussolini did not support land reform and always worked in the best interests of the Italian ruling class.

Holy shit, of fucking course the cries of election fraud were bullshit. It's no wonder the opposition parties began destroying ballots as soon as they decried the election as fraudulent.

Lol, need more evidence than a tweet. That account is also terribly biased if you see what they've been posting.

>everything I don't like is biased

How about you read their article they linked in the tweet and then come back?

[Hakons]

I can't wait to see people talk about how a military coup against a democratically-elected government is actually a good thing. Fuck the right-wing opposition that's plagued Bolivia.

Fuck them, imprison them.
Also Imprison Bolsonaro-he's a criminal against humanity.

He's also a dictator-in-waiting, he is evil.

Bolivia was thriving before this, this is disgusting.

This seems to suggest Morales should be in power forever, as long as he supplies a good economy and society. Not very democratic.

[Orostan]

I can't wait to see people talk about how a military coup against a democratically-elected government is actually a good thing. Fuck the right-wing opposition that's plagued Bolivia.

The Bolivian government has dragged its entire population through instability, hilariously bad economic decisions, and a myriad of other problems that hurt the populace. When Chile had a right-wing coup, it was, for all practical intents and purposes, harmless. 3,000 dead versus the millions that fell in equivalent left-wing regimes. A right-wing coup in Bolivia, that would mirror Chile in a transition to democracy, could be the best thing that ever happened to Bolivia.

The GDP per capita of Bolivia has more than doubled under Morales. Bolivia has rolled out universal healthcare under Morales. The Bolivian economy has been doing very well as a whole under Morales as well.

Your claims are baseless.

[Orostan]

Fuck them, imprison them.
Also Imprison Bolsonaro-he's a criminal against humanity.

He's also a dictator-in-waiting, he is evil.

Bolivia was thriving before this, this is disgusting.

This seems to suggest Morales should be in power forever, as long as he supplies a good economy and society. Not very democratic.

democracy is when the CIA removes democratically elected leaders

the more democratically elected leaders the CIA removes the more democracy there is

[Hakons]

Lol, need more evidence than a tweet. That account is also terribly biased if you see what they've been posting.

>everything I don't like is biased

How about you read their article they linked in the tweet and then come back?

Interactions like this is what makes NSG awful. No, "everything I don't like" isn't biased. More accurately, every source is biased. The linked article is from the same organization as the account, which once again is demonstrably biased (for example, supporting the claim the US is behind the "coup").