Is it disrespectful to sit during the Pledge?

[Gagium]

Not mandatory, but if you don't do it you're disloyal. Ungrateful. Worthless to the community. Practically a traitor. No doubt some kind of globalist, whose interests are foreign interests, or worse, a bomb-throwing anarchist.

Debatable on all those sure, people like Antifa come to mind as belonging to all of those in some form.

What does antifa have to do with anything?

[Galloism]

I mean, this post is a lot more disrespectful to the nation and its dead than sitting or kneeling or whatever during the pledge.

No its not, remember you can burn the flag and be patriotic

People died so we can have different opinions....right....

I mean, yeah. They actually did. They paid the ultimate price to uphold the state and the rights and principles it guarantees.

[San Montalbano]

Debatable on all those sure, people like Antifa come to mind as belonging to all of those in some form.

What does antifa have to do with anything?

It was used as an example for what Ifreann describes

[Gagium]

What does antifa have to do with anything?

It was used as an example for what Ifreann describes

Eh, I’d have to disagree with you on there then

[Ifreann]

Not mandatory, but if you don't do it you're disloyal. Ungrateful. Worthless to the community. Practically a traitor. No doubt some kind of globalist, whose interests are foreign interests, or worse, a bomb-throwing anarchist.

Debatable on all those sure, people like Antifa come to mind as belonging to all of those in some form.

Of course vaguely fashy language makes you think of the enemies of fascism.

---

If we do it must be obscure and little-used, because I've never heard tell of such a thing. Maybe there's something immigrants recite when they get Irish citizenship.

And do you believe immigrants should have to profess their loyalty to Ireland? Why or why not?

I don't see why they should, I've never had to.

[Kowani]

If we do it must be obscure and little-used, because I've never heard tell of such a thing. Maybe there's something immigrants recite when they get Irish citizenship.

And do you believe immigrants should have to profess their loyalty to Ireland? Why or why not?

Because nobody’s ever broken their word.

[San Montalbano]

Debatable on all those sure, people like Antifa come to mind as belonging to all of those in some form.

Of course vaguely fashy language makes you think of the enemies of fascism.

---

And do you believe immigrants should have to profess their loyalty to Ireland? Why or why not?

I don't see why they should, I've never had to.

Well, they call themselves enemies of fascism, there is nothing to suggest they are not

[Fahran]

I don't see why they should, I've never had to.

Would you say that loyalty is beneficial in a citizen then? Or is it simply a non-factor?

[Fahran]

And do you believe immigrants should have to profess their loyalty to Ireland? Why or why not?

Because nobody’s ever broken their word.

People break it all the time, I suppose. But is that not lamentable?

[Kowani]

Because nobody’s ever broken their word.

People break it all the time, I suppose. But is that not lamentable?

Only in the loss of trust. The action itself is neutral.

[Ifreann]

I don't see why they should, I've never had to.

Would you say that loyalty is beneficial in a citizen then? Or is it simply a non-factor?

It's never been a factor for me, why should it be for any other citizen?

[San Montalbano]

People break it all the time, I suppose. But is that not lamentable?

Only in the loss of trust. The action itself is neutral.

Morally detestable in pretty much every culture.

[Catsfern]

Personally I think it's disrespectful if its at any military oriented event, or specifically to honor veterans, but if its just for a football game, or at the beginning of school I could honestly care less.

[Kowani]

Only in the loss of trust. The action itself is neutral.

Morally detestable in pretty much every culture.

Moral nihilist.

[San Montalbano]

Morally detestable in pretty much every culture.

Moral nihilist.

Still detestable, a person with that mind of nihilism could never hope to be trusted, and would be a waste of citizenship.

[Fahran]

Morally detestable in pretty much every culture.

Moral nihilist.

The clever person's equivalent to saying "no" to any and all arguments.

[Kowani]

Moral nihilist.

Still detestable, a person with that mind of nihilism could never hope to be trusted, and would be a waste of citizenship.

Yes. Nihilists are the untrustworthy ones, because clearly, nobody belonging to any other ethical belief has ever broken their word, nor is there any evidence that nihilists do so t any greater rate.

Moral nihilist.

The clever person's equivalent to saying "no" to any and all arguments.

Only those based on morals.

[San Montalbano]

Still detestable, a person with that mind of nihilism could never hope to be trusted, and would be a waste of citizenship.

Yes. Nihilists are the untrustworthy ones, because clearly, nobody belonging to any other ethical belief has ever broken their word, nor is there any evidence that nihilists do so t any greater rate.

The clever person's equivalent to saying "no" to any and all arguments.

Only those based on morals.

A nihilist is worse in some ways because they have no qualms for anyone/anything, in a word they are souless, thats the best way to describe them

[Kowani]

Yes. Nihilists are the untrustworthy ones, because clearly, nobody belonging to any other ethical belief has ever broken their word, nor is there any evidence that nihilists do so t any greater rate.


Only those based on morals.

A nihilist is worse in some ways because they have no qualms for anyone/anything, in a word they are souless, thats the best way to describe them

Well, that’s the first time I’ve been called soulless. Congratulations on being unique.
Of course, the soul doesn’t exist in the first place, morals are personal constructs, and qualms really aren’t as useful as you think they are.
But hey, A for effort.

[San Montalbano]

A nihilist is worse in some ways because they have no qualms for anyone/anything, in a word they are souless, thats the best way to describe them

Well, that’s the first time I’ve been called soulless. Congratulations on being unique.
Of course, the soul doesn’t exist in the first place, morals are personal constructs, and qualms really aren’t as useful as you think they are.
But hey, A for effort.

A self admitted nihlist? Well why should we care about anything you have to say, life is meaningless afterall is it not?

[Kowani]

Well, that’s the first time I’ve been called soulless. Congratulations on being unique.
Of course, the soul doesn’t exist in the first place, morals are personal constructs, and qualms really aren’t as useful as you think they are.
But hey, A for effort.

A self admitted nihlist? Well why should we care about anything you have to say, life is meaningless afterall is it not?

I could have sworn I went over this-ah, yes.

I’m a nihilist, but perhaps of a different sense than you. I believe that although nothing has any meaning on a cosmic scale-we don’t live or experience anything on a cosmic scale.

Now, the conclusion of “we shouldn’t listen to you” doesn’t follow from the premise “you think life is meaningless”, but okay.

[San Montalbano]

A self admitted nihlist? Well why should we care about anything you have to say, life is meaningless afterall is it not?

I could have sworn I went over this-ah, yes.

I’m a nihilist, but perhaps of a different sense than you. I believe that although nothing has any meaning on a cosmic scale-we don’t live or experience anything on a cosmic scale.

Now, the conclusion of “we shouldn’t listen to you” doesn’t follow from the premise “you think life is meaningless”, but okay.

So your a nihlist on simply a another level of cosmic awareness

Well, im not going to pretend to understand that.

[Kowani]

I could have sworn I went over this-ah, yes.
Now, the conclusion of “we shouldn’t listen to you” doesn’t follow from the premise “you think life is meaningless”, but okay.

So your a nihlist on simply a another level of cosmic awareness

Weell, im not going to pretend to understand that.

…If the point was an airplane, you’d be a submarine.

[Chernoslavia]

I could have sworn I went over this-ah, yes.
Now, the conclusion of “we shouldn’t listen to you” doesn’t follow from the premise “you think life is meaningless”, but okay.

So your a nihlist on simply a another level of cosmic awareness

Well, im not going to pretend to understand that.

*pseudo-nihilist. I've seen him complain over ''immoral'' things throughout NSG.

[Spodehaven]

Not really.