Group of people more obnoxious than vegans, meat snobs

[The Rich Port]

At the end of the day, ideologies don't create balanced diets.

People should eat what's best for them. Meat, veggies, eating one or the other doesn't make you a hero or a saint.

What makes a good diet is meeting your nutritional needs. Having bizarre, adverse diets can affect not only your physical health but your mental health as well. Eat tasty, nutritious food. Good tasting food creates endorphins that regulate your mood, and good nutrition keeps you healthy so you can exercise and stay fit and muscular.

Human beings are omnivores, it's natural for us to be both carnivores and herbivores.

[Ors Might]

Ahem.

Hey y'all in the wrong neighbourhood motherf-. You know when you've entered the Colman's ghetto when there's so many white people wearing the yellow & green gang colours. Being a rural area, they're often either coming into conflict or allying with the Morris Men.

You guys put MUSTAHD in your chocolate??

Where the hell is the Catholic Church when you need a good old fashioned crusade?

Along with the different street names of "Norwich", "dijon" and "all-American hotdog", there's all sorts of ways to take your fix of the ol'Must. Some people even lace it into cookies. Our heresy knows no end.

D i s g u s t i n g

[The Two Jerseys]

this is the exact mentality why people find vegans annoying. the grandiose holier than thou preaching that would make a televangelist cringe

A vegan, a bodybuilder and an evangelical Christian walk into a bar.... I know this because the three of them WOULDN'T FUCKING STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

Where was the fighter pilot?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

A vegan, a bodybuilder and an evangelical Christian walk into a bar.... I know this because the three of them WOULDN'T FUCKING STOP TALKING ABOUT IT.

Where was the fighter pilot?

Let's be honest, we would all be bragging about that shit if we were fighter pilots.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Meat snobs, huh? Not surprised. There are snobs about pretty much everything.

[Chernoslavia]

Where was the fighter pilot?

Let's be honest, we would all be bragging about that shit if we were fighter pilots.

Or Onision even when he was nothing more than an OTH fuck up.

[Forsher]

I don't think your premise is correct at all.

Yes, people find burnt toast to be weird. It's burnt. As in "failed to be cooked correctly". Well done steak, in contrast, is properly cooked (as opposed to under-done). But, okay, yeah, people try and defend varying degrees of raw (i.e. improperly cooked) steak so maybe it's different... but the current US President likes well-done steak. You're making an empirical claim and you need to provide empirical evidence to support it.

Like, I don't even remember people calling Trump weird for liking steak the way he does. I remember them calling him a "child". Which is absurd... how many of the "steak must be raw" crowd have actually tried the alternative? (I'm not even convinced they've tried the alternative whereas I'm pretty sure Trump's had to endure improperly cooked steak at least once and decided it is shit.)

If it doesn't slam, is it a door? If you didn't chew it, did you eat it?

On that note... doors that don't slam are the truly obnoxious creation.

To the question of mustard... I wouldn't eat a Christmas ham with bright yellow mustard... and I don't usually put the mustard coloured mustard on a burger.

Having tried well-done steak, yes, I can, in fact, attest that you may as well be eating shoe leather. Cooking it to that extent cooks out all of the juiciness and tenderness. It results in a steak that is flavorless, has a shit texture, and, at that point, you may as well just get a cheap cut and season it to hell, because that's what you'll have to do with it. A properly cooked, decent cut of steak does not need anything more than a small amount of salt and pepper to be juicy, tender, and bursting with flavor. It sounds to me like you are one of those people who drowns their steak in steak sauce and seasonings.

Using Trump's preferences as your comparison isn't really saying much, by the way. Trump knows about as much about steaks as your average neckbeard knows about cars (just look at his failed Trump Steaks).

As to rare being "under-done", steak does not need to be cooked to oblivion to be safe for consumption, and cooking anything past the point of being done (IE: suitable/safe for consumption) is improperly cooking it. If you were served eggs that were like rubber, would you say they were well done, or would you call them overcooked? If you were served bone-dry chicken, would you savor it or send it back to the kitchen?

If it doesn't slam, it is still a door. It is just a door that does not please those childish enough to see a door as just being something to slam.

If you didn't chew it, you did in fact, still eat it. One might consider you rude for not doing so, but, then again, some foods are not meant to be chewed. The question, coming from you, regarding this subject, does beg the question of whether you imagine people who don't overcook their steaks slurping them down like oysters. I can assure you this isn't the case.

As to the question of mustard... I find myself wondering if hell has frozen over, as it seems we actually agree on something.

Firstly, you have completely and utterly failed to realise the context of the reference to Trump. The point is not that Trump "knows" steak. The point is that when Trump's steak preferences became, despite the absurdity, a Thing I do not recall people calling them weird preferences. The implication being that they're not weird preferences (contrary to the premise of the post I was replying to).

Secondly, you've similarly failed to understand the slamming doors point. Unless you actually imagine "On that note... doors that don't slam are the truly obnoxious creation" to be the driest and most sombre of posts. Doors that slam are more fun, but to make that case you have to accept the notion that doors that don't slam are, in fact, doors. Which makes a mockery of your extended discussion of this point...

...your point about chicken and eggs is hilarious. Try cooking some kumara or even (non-pre-cooked) sausages. You get very different meals the longer you cook them. Now, sure, you might say "but you cook them via different methods when you do that" and if so, at least with sausages, you can eat them a lot sooner than the point where they're cooked best. And that's ignoring the old question of whether sausages are better burnt or not.

Now, as it happens, I could direct you to someone who writes cookery books talking about well-done steak (the author's name escapes me but the book is called Salt). It's not their idea of a good steak but, unlike you, they don't decide to berate the taste of people who disagree and instead think about why some people (perhaps even most people) like well done steaks. In case you haven't noticed, you can drown steaks in external flavourings regardless of how cooked it is. And, indeed, one must with raw steak because, you know, uncooked steak is fucking disgusting. It is, on the contrary, not necessary at all with a well done steak...

...but, again, that's not the purpose of referencing Trump. Which is why I didn't do it before.

And let us not forget the raw egg, raw fish, raw apple, raw carrot etc. etc. points you seem to have forgotten. Clearly "safe for consumption" does not determine cooked-ness.

Ah, I see my Reddit link is entertaining the true question... does one place the onion on top or underneath the sausage in a sausage sizzle? (On top, obviously.)

[Ifreann]

Where was the fighter pilot?

Let's be honest, we would all be bragging about that shit if we were fighter pilots.

Haven't you seen Top Gun? Fighters pilots don't brag when they're in a bar, they break into song.

[Elwher]

Once my children reached the age of majority, I lost all rights to attempt to influence anyone else's dietary choices. Anyone who says eating X means you are a bad person, or eating Y unless cooked to certain specifications proves you to be an idiot, is an obnoxious interfering snob who should keep his or her opinions to himself unless asked for.

I have very specific opinions on what food should be eaten and how it should be cooked, and my cooking reflects those choices (usually, unless I screw up). I am willing to express those opinions and defend them vigorously, but only if asked. If the rest of the world would mind their own business in a similar manner, things would be much more pleasant.

[Jebslund]

...but, unlike you, they don't decide to berate the taste of people who disagree...

And, indeed, one must with raw steak because, you know, uncooked steak is fucking disgusting.

Not going to dignify any of that other tripe with a response, but I would like to make one further point before disengaging: Pot, meet kettle. The fact that you wish to make your opinion known in the form of a pseudo-intellectual lecture does not make your opinion fact.

[Forsher]

...but, unlike you, they don't decide to berate the taste of people who disagree...

And, indeed, one must with raw steak because, you know, uncooked steak is fucking disgusting.

Not going to dignify any of that other tripe with a response, but I would like to make one further point before disengaging: Pot, meet kettle. The fact that you wish to make your opinion known in the form of a pseudo-intellectual lecture does not make your opinion fact.

I'm sorry you believe "I fucking hate raw steak" means the same thing as "you're a fucking idiot if you like raw steak"... or even "people who like raw steak must be drowning it in unnecessary fucking condiments".

I'm further sorry you believe hypocrisy is an interesting thing to talk about.

I'm especially sorry you think hypocrisy is interesting to talk about and then immediately used "pseudo-intellectual" with a straight face.

And, finally, I'm simply awfully sorry that I had to make all these apologies days after the fact. But, then, unlike some people, I don't spend my time continuously making snide remarks about people I neither like nor agree with and I especially don't draw attention to my habit of doing this when, on the odd occasion, I find myself doing this thing I don't do. Not that it would matter if, in fact, I did do it... I would still be entirely correct to say that doing this is a fucking despicable thing to do.

I should probably also apologise for the length of that sentence, but anyone interesting stopped reading when they noticed I was replying to Jebslund seeing as I was right, despite the length of the aforementioned terribly long sentence, where I commented on the disgraceful nature of making snide remarks about disagreeable people in posts where I am, superficially, doing nothing more than disagreeing with them (predictably, since they are, as we established just before, disagreeable people but you already knew this before, as while you may be a complete bore, having read this far, I refuse to consider the possibility that you are an idiot and have failed to notice this obvious thing, i.e. the predictability of the disagreement).

tl;dr -- I'm sorry that I'm not A. A. Milne and I'm further sorry that I'm not sure anyone here understands this reference but I decided to make it anyway.

[Xuloqoia]

Not going to dignify any of that other tripe with a response, but I would like to make one further point before disengaging: Pot, meet kettle. The fact that you wish to make your opinion known in the form of a pseudo-intellectual lecture does not make your opinion fact.

I'm sorry you believe "I fucking hate raw steak" means the same thing as "you're a fucking idiot if you like raw steak"... or even "people who like raw steak must be drowning it in unnecessary fucking condiments".

I'm further sorry you believe hypocrisy is an interesting thing to talk about.

I'm especially sorry you think hypocrisy is interesting to talk about and then immediately used "pseudo-intellectual" with a straight face.

And, finally, I'm simply awfully sorry that I had to make all these apologies days after the fact. But, then, unlike some people, I don't spend my time continuously making snide remarks about people I neither like nor agree with and I especially don't draw attention to my habit of doing this when, on the odd occasion, I find myself doing this thing I don't do. Not that it would matter if, in fact, I did do it... I would still be entirely correct to say that doing this is a fucking despicable thing to do.

I should probably also apologise for the length of that sentence, but anyone interesting stopped reading when they noticed I was replying to Jebslund seeing as I was right, despite the length of the aforementioned terribly long sentence, where I commented on the disgraceful nature of making snide remarks about disagreeable people in posts where I am, superficially, doing nothing more than disagreeing with them (predictably, since they are, as we established just before, disagreeable people but you already knew this before, as while you may be a complete bore, having read this far, I refuse to consider the possibility that you are an idiot and have failed to notice this obvious thing, i.e. the predictability of the disagreement).

tl;dr -- I'm sorry that I'm not A. A. Milne and I'm further sorry that I'm not sure anyone here understands this reference but I decided to make it anyway.

They wrote the Pooh books, IIRC? Originally wrote them, I mean.

[The Horror Channel]

I hate it when people give me shit for ordering my steak well done. I don't feel the need to apologize for not liking raw meat.

[Forsher]

They wrote the Pooh books, IIRC? Originally wrote them, I mean.

That is correct. However, you'd have had to read the one where there's a terribly long run on sentence and he apologises for writing it to catch the reference. I can't remember which one it is... I think I read it in year seven or eight so that's more than a decade ago now...

Ah, one can search for it on Google. It's less an apology than a quick "this is something I am doing" remark. Still hilarious. Although, perhaps not remember for ten years or more hilarious. But even so.

[Crysuko]

I hate it when people give me shit for ordering my steak well done. I don't feel the need to apologize for not liking raw meat.

Go chew on a boot. It's the same experience.