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by Inkopolitia » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:02 pm
by Aureumterra » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:03 pm
Inkopolitia wrote:People here are saying that old folks shouldn't be able to vote because "they are a threat to public safety" (I.e: Vote for ideas that the person who accuses old people of being a threat to public safety deems "not good")
Yes, we shouldn't allow openly discriminatory policies (As in anti-LGBT or anti-[insert minority here]) to ever pass. But you gotta be kidding me if you think every old person wants to see gay people locked up and sent to church.
In short, no. While we as a society (Yes, we live in a society) should strive to be more accepting towards everyone, excluding a group of people is the exact opposite of being inclusive.
by The Black Forrest » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:04 pm
Iwassoclose wrote:Just like there is an age restriction for when people can vote there should also be an age restriction for when people have to stop voting.
These group of people are most actively chased after by politicians to the detriment of young people who are the main or future participants in the economy and future of a country.
Do you agree with this proposition?
by Narland » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:04 pm
by Iwassoclose » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:06 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
Indeed, but if a military can draft you, You should have some say in how you are being used. So I think 18 is the right age for the franchise
Drafting varies by country, I don’t think a draft should exist and if it does, it should apply to everyone, not just malesVassenor wrote:
So in other words because they might not vote the way you want they shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Not really, 18 year olds haven’t faced the real world though, which imo starts after graduating college or graduating secondary school if you choose not to go to college
by Inkopolitia » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:07 pm
Aureumterra wrote:Inkopolitia wrote:People here are saying that old folks shouldn't be able to vote because "they are a threat to public safety" (I.e: Vote for ideas that the person who accuses old people of being a threat to public safety deems "not good")
Yes, we shouldn't allow openly discriminatory policies (As in anti-LGBT or anti-[insert minority here]) to ever pass. But you gotta be kidding me if you think every old person wants to see gay people locked up and sent to church.
In short, no. While we as a society (Yes, we live in a society) should strive to be more accepting towards everyone, excluding a group of people is the exact opposite of being inclusive.
Non-citizens should definitely be excluded though, from voting
by Heloin » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:08 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:Just like there is an age restriction for when people can vote there should also be an age restriction for when people have to stop voting.
These group of people are most actively chased after by politicians to the detriment of young people who are the main or future participants in the economy and future of a country.
Do you agree with this proposition?
Ok.
As long as people up to the age of 30 can't vote and are not allowed to complain things.
Deal?
by The New California Republic » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:11 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Iwassoclose wrote:Just like there is an age restriction for when people can vote there should also be an age restriction for when people have to stop voting.
These group of people are most actively chased after by politicians to the detriment of young people who are the main or future participants in the economy and future of a country.
Do you agree with this proposition?
Ok.
As long as people up to the age of 30 can't vote and are not allowed to complain things.
Deal?
by The Rapture Republic » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:15 pm
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by Narland » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:17 pm
by Czechostan » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:17 pm
Great Kysilia wrote:Gagium wrote:
They're enough to prove your overgeneralizations that "18 year olds haven’t faced the real world though" wrong.
Regardless, I could certainly bring up every conceivable instance in which a number of 18 year olds have "faced" the "real" world (Do most highschoolers live in a simulated virtual world until they're 18??), though I believe you get the point.
Most high schoolers do live in a pretty sheltered environment until they graduate, yes.
That there being exceptions to the rule does not invalidate the rule itself.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:18 pm
by San Lumen » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:18 pm
Piscina wrote:Everyone has made some very good points, and I recognise that such a system would be incredibly, horribly flawed in real life. I was simply annoyed at some people I know of that vote for or against candidates for really random and stupid reasons. Sorry if I vented my annoyance onto you.
by The Huskar Social Union » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:19 pm
San Lumen wrote:Piscina wrote:Everyone has made some very good points, and I recognise that such a system would be incredibly, horribly flawed in real life. I was simply annoyed at some people I know of that vote for or against candidates for really random and stupid reasons. Sorry if I vented my annoyance onto you.
Well at least you acknowledge you were wrong. I applaud you for that. There are some people who can’t do that
by The Black Forrest » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:21 pm
by Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:21 pm
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by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:25 pm
Luxenermy wrote:I have a tingly feeling this thread was started by the kind of person who complains all the time about "boomers" on twitter and treats the older generation as a scapegoat for all the world's problems.
Jesus christ mate, of course, they should vote.
by Side 3 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:26 pm
Scymira wrote:Older people have to retest to continue driving because of the obvious question of public safety at a micro level, and they should at the very least be tested to be able to continue to vote because of the obvious question of public safety at the macro level. (And if testing people to be able to vote bothers you, you can always simply name a cutoff age.)
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by Brooklyn and Queens » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:33 pm
Side 3 wrote:Scymira wrote:Older people have to retest to continue driving because of the obvious question of public safety at a micro level, and they should at the very least be tested to be able to continue to vote because of the obvious question of public safety at the macro level. (And if testing people to be able to vote bothers you, you can always simply name a cutoff age.)
Yeah, we need a test to see if they're educated enough to continue voting. A literacy test, if you will.
by Victoriamus » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:37 pm
by The New California Republic » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:41 pm
Victoriamus wrote:As I believe all should be able to vote free of harassment,intimidation or discrimination. [...] If you’re over 18, and born in your country of origin you deserve to right to vote,young or old.
by Costa Fierro » Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:03 pm
Jabberwocky wrote:I'm 66. I question whether YOUNG people are qualified to vote. So many seem ignorant of history. Small wonder...they have so little of it themselves.
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