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Racist Incident At Buffalo Wild Wings: Family Speaks Out

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:11 pm
by Aeritai
A family of mostly black people who were told to move tables at an Illinois Buffalo Wild Wings because a white customer did not want to sit next to them described how upsetting it was to explain the incident to their children.

"We're going into 2020 and we still have to deal with ... racism," Justin Vahl said at a press conference Tuesday. "I have to explain to my 10- and 5-year-old why we have to walk out of a restaurant."

In a Facebook post that has gone viral, Justin's wife, Mary Vahl, said that she and 17 other people were at a Buffalo Wild Wings in Naperville on Oct. 26. The host setting up their table told them that a customer, who was a regular, did not want to be seated next to them because of their race.

Mary Vahl wrote in her post that the group was made up of "minorities, mostly consisting of African Americans" and a dozen children. The party told the host that they would not move tables.

Justin Vahl told reporters that they were at the eatery to celebrate the birthday of one of the kids and he felt "disrespected" by the encounter.

"This bigot of a customer did not want us sitting there in a public establishment where we were wanted," he said.

According to Justin Vahl, the customer repeatedly turned around and gave the group dirty looks. Another family member at the press conference, Marcus Riley, said that eventually a manager came and told the group that the table they were at was reserved and they would need to switch to another table.

Again they refused to move, he said. After that manager and another employee tried to persuade the group to move, the party decided to take their business elsewhere and left.

Ashley Smith, another family member at the press conference, told reporters that she was upset her children had to witness this incident.

"To see them try to understand is hurtful because that's something they shouldn't have to do," she said."It's OK to be black. And we're raising them to be that way."

"I won't accept that there are people out there who say that they are wrong," Smith said. "Or don't want to sit next to them."

In a statement this week, Buffalo Wild Wings said it had fired the involved employees and "banned the customer who exhibited the inappropriate behavior from all Buffalo Wild Wings sports bars for life."

The company also said it planned to conduct sensitivity training throughout its restaurants in the Chicago area.

"Buffalo Wild Wings values an inclusive environment and has zero-tolerance for discrimination of any kind," the statement read.

The group's attorney, Cannon Lambert, praised Buffalo Wild Wings for firing the employees but called out the establishment for failing to properly train its staff to ensure all customers are treated fairly.

"We're not surprised that you are instituting sensitivity training. What we're surprised by is that you didn't have any already in place," Lambert said. "They have the opportunity to be trailblazers right now where they can show other corporate community participants what it is to stand up to racism."


Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... cna1076651

My Opinion: Honestly, this is just disrespectful that the customer wanted the family to move because of the color of their skin. Like how does one family's skin color affect how you eat? I'm glad that Buffalo Wild Wings fired the employees that we're trying to move the family and banned the customer that showed this type of rude behavior.

What do you say NSG? Do you think the customer and employees were in the wrong or do you think the family should've moved tables?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:14 pm
by Bear Stearns
why overweight chumps arguing at Buffalo Wild Wings matters at all is beyond me

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:17 pm
by Side 3
This is so cartoonly racist that I have a hard time believing it actually happened the way they said it happened. But if it did, then screw that racist customer and screw the moronic employees who caved to him.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:20 pm
by Bear Stearns
Side 3 wrote:This is so cartoonly racist that I have a hard time believing it actually happened the way they said it happened. But if it did, then screw that racist customer and screw the moronic employees who caved to him.


I'm a little skeptical as well. It's got all the usual things...

Person seemingly lashes out at minority at random for no apparent reason (how much you want a bet there's a back-and-forth escalation before this went down?)

"I can't believe it's year 20XX"

"What do I tell my kids?"

Not to mention that the article concludes with them leaving the restaurant anyways and going elsewhere, so it seems to have all worked out.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:23 pm
by Munkcestrian Republic
who the fuck is a "regular patron" of "Buffalo Wild Wings"

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:25 pm
by Aureumterra
This seems an awful lot like the Nathan Phillips thing, the family that was allegedly discriminated against is upping up the victimization in the article quite a bit. I also doubt that a white customer, in this day and age would seemingly randomly and openly ask for them to move because of their race, even if they were a racist, knowing the inevitable media backlash. I highly suspect there’s more to this story

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:27 pm
by Czechostan
Bear Stearns wrote:Not to mention that the article concludes with them leaving the restaurant anyways and going elsewhere, so it seems to have all worked out.

If you were asked to move tables because someone was uncomfortable with your skin color, I don't think you would describe this as everything "working out."

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:28 pm
by Side 3
Bear Stearns wrote:
Side 3 wrote:This is so cartoonly racist that I have a hard time believing it actually happened the way they said it happened. But if it did, then screw that racist customer and screw the moronic employees who caved to him.


I'm a little skeptical as well. It's got all the usual things...

Person seemingly lashes out at minority at random for no apparent reason (how much you want a bet there's a back-and-forth escalation before this went down?)

"I can't believe it's year 20XX"

"What do I tell my kids?"

Not to mention that the article concludes with them leaving the restaurant anyways and going elsewhere, so it seems to have all worked out.


Also the fact that they moved 19 people for one guy who apparently explicitly said it was because they were black seems really far fetched.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:28 pm
by Xuloqoia
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:who the fuck is a "regular patron" of "Buffalo Wild Wings"


The real question is why Buffalo Wild Wings as a whole is still in business, to be quite honest.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:29 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae
I question if this really happened. It would be stupid to do this as a business in 2019, as racism is not viewed as acceptable and it will lead to boycotts.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:31 pm
by Aureumterra
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I question if this really happened. It would be stupid to do this as a business in 2019, as racism is not viewed as acceptable and it will lead to boycotts.

Boomers on twitter “cancelling” Buffalo Wild Wings in 3…2…1…

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:32 pm
by Costa Fierro
Bear Stearns wrote:
Side 3 wrote:This is so cartoonly racist that I have a hard time believing it actually happened the way they said it happened. But if it did, then screw that racist customer and screw the moronic employees who caved to him.


I'm a little skeptical as well. It's got all the usual things...

Person seemingly lashes out at minority at random for no apparent reason (how much you want a bet there's a back-and-forth escalation before this went down?)

"I can't believe it's year 20XX"

"What do I tell my kids?"

Not to mention that the article concludes with them leaving the restaurant anyways and going elsewhere, so it seems to have all worked out.


OK Boomer.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 pm
by Czechostan
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I question if this really happened. It would be stupid to do this as a business in 2019, as racism is not viewed as acceptable and it will lead to boycotts.

I mean, I doubt the manager and the employees had the long-term economic future of b-dubs in mind. It's not like corporate supported this, since they fired the employees involved.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:37 pm
by Side 3
Czechostan wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I question if this really happened. It would be stupid to do this as a business in 2019, as racism is not viewed as acceptable and it will lead to boycotts.

I mean, I doubt the manager and the employees had the long-term economic future of b-dubs in mind. It's not like corporate supported this, since they fired the employees involved.


But surely they would know that this would cost them their jobs? I mean it doesn't take a genius to realize that moving a large group of customers for such an absurd reason is a terrible idea.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:37 pm
by Nouveau Quebecois
Can we have more then one source, not including the Facebook post.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:38 pm
by Aeritai
Xuloqoia wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:who the fuck is a "regular patron" of "Buffalo Wild Wings"


The real question is why Buffalo Wild Wings as a whole is still in business, to be quite honest.


Is the food there that bad?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:39 pm
by Xuloqoia
Aeritai wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
The real question is why Buffalo Wild Wings as a whole is still in business, to be quite honest.


Is the food there that bad?


I don't like it, I must admit. 2/10, because the food is technically edible.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:40 pm
by LiberNovusAmericae
Czechostan wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:I question if this really happened. It would be stupid to do this as a business in 2019, as racism is not viewed as acceptable and it will lead to boycotts.

I mean, I doubt the manager and the employees had the long-term economic future of b-dubs in mind. It's not like corporate supported this, since they fired the employees involved.

I still question this. Being racist will lead to negative consequences like being fired, and one racist customer isn't worth it.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:42 pm
by Xuloqoia
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
I don't like it, I must admit. 2/10, because the food is technically edible.

I really like it. 7.7/10


:blink:

... Why?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:43 pm
by Nouveau Quebecois
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
:blink:

... Why?

Spicy.

Wings.

Buffalo.

Wild.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:43 pm
by Xuloqoia
Eternal Lotharia wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
:blink:

... Why?

Spicy.

Wings.


That are so godawful that they make Chicken McNuggets seem like God's gift.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:46 pm
by Nouveau Quebecois
Xuloqoia wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Spicy.

Wings.


That are so godawful that they make Chicken McNuggets seem like God's gift.

>implying they aren't.

Not every chicken wing has what it takes to be the Eucharist.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:46 pm
by Czechostan
Side 3 wrote:
Czechostan wrote:I mean, I doubt the manager and the employees had the long-term economic future of b-dubs in mind. It's not like corporate supported this, since they fired the employees involved.


But surely they would know that this would cost them their jobs? I mean it doesn't take a genius to realize that moving a large group of customers for such an absurd reason is a terrible idea.

Well, racism is entirely irrational, but it doesn't stop people from being racist. There's plenty of examples of people trashing minorities in history with seemingly no idea of what the repurcussions will be.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:47 pm
by Aeritai
Nouveau Quebecois wrote:Can we have more then one source, not including the Facebook post.


Sure, here is two news sources that cover the same thing.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/buf ... t-incident


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:47 pm
by Czechostan
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Czechostan wrote:I mean, I doubt the manager and the employees had the long-term economic future of b-dubs in mind. It's not like corporate supported this, since they fired the employees involved.

I still question this. Being racist will lead to negative consequences like being fired, and one racist customer isn't worth it.

If you're of the same race of the racist person, and you're good at mental gymnastics as most people are, you can find a way.