Racist Incident At Buffalo Wild Wings: Family Speaks Out

[Kowani]

Do you actually think “cracker” is a racial slur

Yes, I do, especially since it's spoken with the intent to disrespect and degrade. Are you implying that because of the color of my skin, I don't even have the right to be offended at being racially degraded? I guess that really is how worthless I am to society.

Mate, Aureumterra is almost certainly whiter than you are.

[Aureumterra]

Hey all. This really did happen. There's no need for "skepticism" and there's nothing "fishy" about the situation. Racism, even comically stupid racism, exists whether you want to believe it or not. Bad judgements were made by managers of the company and the regular customer is a snowflake. The managers have been fired and customer banned from Buffalo Wild Wings. The company is in damage control mode as we speak.

Blame me for being skeptical of a story like this based on media stories from the past year

[Aureumterra]

Yes, I do, especially since it's spoken with the intent to disrespect and degrade. Are you implying that because of the color of my skin, I don't even have the right to be offended at being racially degraded? I guess that really is how worthless I am to society.

Mate, Aureumterra is almost certainly whiter than you are.

[Emulation White]

I honestly want to know who's a minority

I'm a poor latino.
Hi.

You're the national majority and Europe dominated the globe for centuries.

Institutional racism exists and denying it because of your sympathetic struggles is shameful. There's reasons the vast majority of minorities struggle and it's racism and bigotry, saying the reasons minorities overwhelmingly struggle is laziness would show the person saying that as part of the problem and a racist.

Institutional racism? Is that why our people are more welcoming to everyone and have created more opportunity for them than anyone else? All you did was cold-heartedly disregard everything I said and went for the moral highground. You know who were the first victims of European domination? Us. We got the first taste of the whip, got to fill the mass graves and got to get worked half to death. YOU are the majority, you can come and go into the West as you please. I was ready to have a discussion with you, but I'm sincerely disappointed you seem intent on a debate. Empathy is a two-way street, you have to give it to get it. If you want, we can talk to each other as human beings; I'm not going to play the part of political opponent; I'm speaking to you genuinely as a Man to a Woman.

[UniversalCommons]

It makes no economic sense. You have a family who has a large bill and one dude who doesn't like the family. Boot the one dude. This is a business.

[Emulation White]

Mate, Aureumterra is almost certainly whiter than you are.

So what? You think that's an excuse for your sentiment? I don't think so.

He is "Whiter" than me; I'm German, French, Irish, Hungarian and Spaniard with olive skin. White is just a term for Europeans, whom possess a range of light to medium tones. Being European isn't just skin deep, our uniform is just an aspect of our nature.

[Sovaal]

Sounds like somebody’s getting fired.

[Emulation White]

Yes, I do, especially since it's spoken with the intent to disrespect and degrade. Are you implying that because of the color of my skin, I don't even have the right to be offended at being racially degraded? I guess that really is how worthless I am to society.

The thing is, no black person under 30 calls us crackers. Just go on black twitter to see what they really call us these days lol.

I don't know what your environment or your experiences but mine contradict that. I'm not going on black Twitter...I don't even want to go on White Twitter.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Sounds like somebody’s getting got fired.

Fixed it for you.

[Aureumterra]

I imagine you as a little kid no offense.
It's the flag that looks like that weirdly.

Yeah my not-so-perfect English makes a lot of people online think that

But hey, running for city council requires maturity (unless you’re one of those running for pure memes)

[Emulation White]

(Image)

I imagine you as a little kid no offense.
It's the flag that looks like that weirdly.

Institutional racism? Is that why our people are more welcoming to everyone and have created more opportunity for them than anyone else? All you did was cold-heartedly disregard everything I said and went for the moral highground. You know who were the first victims of European domination? Us. We got the first taste of the whip, got to fill the mass graves and got to get worked half to death. YOU are the majority, you can come and go into the West as you please. I was ready to have a discussion with you, but I'm sincerely disappointed you seem intent on a debate. Empathy is a two-way street, you have to give it to get it. If you want, we can talk to each other as human beings; I'm not going to play the part of political opponent; I'm speaking to you genuinely as a Man to a Woman.

You're the white guy you said it yourself. You aren't black so weren't treated as badly as you describe unless you meant feudalism which yeah that sucks.
Not saying that to be mean I'm just lazily being blunt with no filler-nothing personal about this debate.
I don't think a discussion of American racism is relevant to pointing out you're a global minority-I am too.

So I pointed out I'm a actual minority pissed about racism.

I'm not hateful towards white people that is cringy and racist and yeah you can struggle sorry for that but you have a slight starting bonus because you're white it just so happens the world sucks for everyone so that bonus doesn't do much for you but it's more than what we have. But yeah I understand you think the world is shitty to you it is it just so happens you have a slight cushion against it getting shittier because you're white but you're life still sucks so it's hard to know you have that bonus. It doesn't prevent the world from being crap it just gives a 5% chance extra against it and that's why racial minorities see and hate it even though it did nothing in the roulette of life though it's a extremely useful bonus to have.

Am I making sense?


I used to not believe in white privilege until I saw it myself through studying history and the real world so yeah I understand it's hard to understand emotionally. I don't hold ill will.

No, I'm not just talking about feudalism. I'm also talking about the Mongols, the Arabs, the Turks and whoever else is applicable. It's been one genocidal, colonial enemy after another. I'm even talking about things like the Plague, that disproportionately affected us. Think of the World Wars, think of Roman colonization. Tell me about this White privilege because I'm at a loss. Tell me how I'm a majority when most Europeans have no inkling of any sort of racial identity. They look in the mirror and think what they see is just an arbitrary condition. Most White people have no self-awaress, no solidarity and no sense of identity. They're what I call "post-racial"; their race stops at their skin. Do you know what that feels like? It's extremely lonely and alienating. To look around and feel no connection and no belonging.

What is also hard is how Aryan Identity has been co-opted and appropriated by National Socialists, Fascists, Authoritarians and other embarrassing idealogies. I have to deal with being stereotyped and clumped in with people who do nothing but harm our image and our future. I am a pariah on multiple levels and see no allies in sight. Everyday, I know it's me and God against the world and there is no cavalry coming to help. When I fight, I do it alone. There is a lot more I could say, but now you're going to tell me how advantaged I am.

[Aureumterra]

Yeah my not-so-perfect English makes a lot of people online think that

But hey, running for city council requires maturity (unless you’re one of those running for pure memes)

I was running seriously but memes tempt me.

A lot of people who join in the youth wing of the Independence Party run for some office in their hometowns/villages, city councils here are generally composed of half twenty somethings looking to start a career and half old veteran politicians

[Kowani]

I imagine you as a little kid no offense.
It's the flag that looks like that weirdly.
You're the white guy you said it yourself. You aren't black so weren't treated as badly as you describe unless you meant feudalism which yeah that sucks.
Not saying that to be mean I'm just lazily being blunt with no filler-nothing personal about this debate.
I don't think a discussion of American racism is relevant to pointing out you're a global minority-I am too.

So I pointed out I'm a actual minority pissed about racism.

I'm not hateful towards white people that is cringy and racist and yeah you can struggle sorry for that but you have a slight starting bonus because you're white it just so happens the world sucks for everyone so that bonus doesn't do much for you but it's more than what we have. But yeah I understand you think the world is shitty to you it is it just so happens you have a slight cushion against it getting shittier because you're white but you're life still sucks so it's hard to know you have that bonus. It doesn't prevent the world from being crap it just gives a 5% chance extra against it and that's why racial minorities see and hate it even though it did nothing in the roulette of life though it's a extremely useful bonus to have.

Am I making sense?


I used to not believe in white privilege until I saw it myself through studying history and the real world so yeah I understand it's hard to understand emotionally. I don't hold ill will.

No, I'm not just talking about feudalism. I'm also talking about the Mongols, the Arabs, the Turks and whoever else is applicable. It's been one genocidal, colonial enemy after another. I'm even talking about things like the Plague, that disproportionately affected us.

In terms of population loss, no, Europe was not disproportionately affected by the plague. In terms of social change, also no.

Think of the World Wars, think of Roman colonization.

Last I checked, white people did both of those things.

Tell me about this White privilege because I'm at a loss. Tell me how I'm a majority when most Europeans have no inkling of any sort of racial identity.

Numerically speaking, you’re not a majority-Asians are. (Of course, this requires ignoring that race is an arbitrary social construct, buuuut…)

They look in the mirror and think what they see is just an arbitrary condition. Most White people have no self-awaress, no solidarity and no sense of identity. They're what I call "post-racial"; their race stops at their skin. Do you know what that feels like? It's extremely lonely and alienating. To look around and feel no connection and no belonging.

What in the name of fuck is this rant? Most people don’t think of their race on a continental level either, until they’re actually being exploited at the continental level.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

This is so cartoonly racist that I have a hard time believing it actually happened the way they said it happened. But if it did, then screw that racist customer and screw the moronic employees who caved to him.

This. The reason it seems almost cartoonish is because racism like this is extraordinarily rare these days. In an area with 10 million people they were bound to have one imbecile. Fired and banned for life are appropriate responses but it feels like too little too late. These kids will remember this and they dont deserve to be stuck with such a shitty memory/experience.

[Emulation White]

No, I'm not just talking about feudalism. I'm also talking about the Mongols, the Arabs, the Turks and whoever else is applicable. It's been one genocidal, colonial enemy after another. I'm even talking about things like the Plague, that disproportionately affected us.

In terms of population loss, no, Europe was not disproportionately affected by the plague. In terms of social change, also no.

Think of the World Wars, think of Roman colonization.

Last I checked, white people did both of those things.

Tell me about this White privilege because I'm at a loss. Tell me how I'm a majority when most Europeans have no inkling of any sort of racial identity.

Numerically speaking, you’re not a majority-Asians are. (Of course, this requires ignoring that race is an arbitrary social construct, buuuut…)

They look in the mirror and think what they see is just an arbitrary condition. Most White people have no self-awaress, no solidarity and no sense of identity. They're what I call "post-racial"; their race stops at their skin. Do you know what that feels like? It's extremely lonely and alienating. To look around and feel no connection and no belonging.

What in the name of fuck is this rant? Most people don’t think of their race on a continental level either, until they’re actually being exploited at the continental level.

Yeah, that's the point, just because the suffering comes from within doesn't invalidate it.

Excuse me for having a "rant", you don't understand me and you don't care to. My identity is irrelevant to you and all that matters is Kowani is his world view, so fuck everyone else. I'm not in the mood for some bitch ass nature vs nurture debate. You're a bright young man, but there is something missing in your heart.

[Risottia]

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[Autumn Wind]

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Winged buffalos.
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[Shofercia]

A family of mostly black people who were told to move tables at an Illinois Buffalo Wild Wings because a white customer did not want to sit next to them described how upsetting it was to explain the incident to their children.

"We're going into 2020 and we still have to deal with ... racism," Justin Vahl said at a press conference Tuesday. "I have to explain to my 10- and 5-year-old why we have to walk out of a restaurant."

In a Facebook post that has gone viral, Justin's wife, Mary Vahl, said that she and 17 other people were at a Buffalo Wild Wings in Naperville on Oct. 26. The host setting up their table told them that a customer, who was a regular, did not want to be seated next to them because of their race.

Mary Vahl wrote in her post that the group was made up of "minorities, mostly consisting of African Americans" and a dozen children. The party told the host that they would not move tables.

Justin Vahl told reporters that they were at the eatery to celebrate the birthday of one of the kids and he felt "disrespected" by the encounter.

"This bigot of a customer did not want us sitting there in a public establishment where we were wanted," he said.

According to Justin Vahl, the customer repeatedly turned around and gave the group dirty looks. Another family member at the press conference, Marcus Riley, said that eventually a manager came and told the group that the table they were at was reserved and they would need to switch to another table.

Again they refused to move, he said. After that manager and another employee tried to persuade the group to move, the party decided to take their business elsewhere and left.

Ashley Smith, another family member at the press conference, told reporters that she was upset her children had to witness this incident.

"To see them try to understand is hurtful because that's something they shouldn't have to do," she said."It's OK to be black. And we're raising them to be that way."

"I won't accept that there are people out there who say that they are wrong," Smith said. "Or don't want to sit next to them."

In a statement this week, Buffalo Wild Wings said it had fired the involved employees and "banned the customer who exhibited the inappropriate behavior from all Buffalo Wild Wings sports bars for life."

The company also said it planned to conduct sensitivity training throughout its restaurants in the Chicago area.

"Buffalo Wild Wings values an inclusive environment and has zero-tolerance for discrimination of any kind," the statement read.

The group's attorney, Cannon Lambert, praised Buffalo Wild Wings for firing the employees but called out the establishment for failing to properly train its staff to ensure all customers are treated fairly.

"We're not surprised that you are instituting sensitivity training. What we're surprised by is that you didn't have any already in place," Lambert said. "They have the opportunity to be trailblazers right now where they can show other corporate community participants what it is to stand up to racism."

Source: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnew ... cna1076651

My Opinion: Honestly, this is just disrespectful that the customer wanted the family to move because of the color of their skin. Like how does one family's skin color affect how you eat? I'm glad that Buffalo Wild Wings fired the employees that we're trying to move the family and banned the customer that showed this type of rude behavior.

What do you say NSG? Do you think the customer and employees were in the wrong or do you think the family should've moved tables?

If that actually happened the racist should go and screw himself, as should the employees, but this reads more like a script written by Jussie Smollett than anything else. I'm surprised there's no bleach.

[The Archregimancy]

Think of the World Wars, think of Roman colonization.

Last I checked, white people did both of those things.

Appreciating I'm replying to a quick soundbite...

Without downgrading the centrality of Europe to both World Wars, the Japanese in particular might object to being called 'white people'; and while the Roman Empire was started by what we would today call 'white people', there were emperors who - without attempting to define them by anachronistic modern racial terms - might have struggled to sit at the front of a bus in 1950s Alabama.

So I might have phrased that as 'white people did most of both those things'; which has the benefit of being more accurate without undermining your basic point.

[Aclion]

I feel like we're not getting the whole story here.

[Aeritai]

I feel like we're not getting the whole story here.

If you have any doubts Farn posted more sources about the incident.

Sources for those disposed to look at them (I tried for a variety of sources):

https://www.wsj.com/articles/buffalo-wi ... 1573070126

https://fox17online.com/2019/11/05/buff ... omers-say/

https://twitter.com/BWWings/status/1192 ... gr%5Etweet

https://abc7chicago.com/society/we-coul ... t/5672983/

https://www.delish.com/food-news/a29701 ... ed-racist-

[Gagium]

The company also said it planned to conduct sensitivity training throughout its restaurants in the Chicago area.

"Buffalo Wild Wings values an inclusive environment and has zero-tolerance for discrimination of any kind," the statement read.

Quite the world we live in when restaurants and large companies train their employees to be more sensitive.

[Gormwood]

Do you actually think “cracker” is a racial slur

Yes, I do, especially since it's spoken with the intent to disrespect and degrade. Are you implying that because of the color of my skin, I don't even have the right to be offended at being racially degraded? I guess that really is how worthless I am to society.

"Cracker" does not originate from baked goods, but the cracking of whips.

[Gormwood]

What's amusing is that people here are assuming the corporate at BWW are social justice cucks and just fired the employees without doing due diligence because they're whitey haters.

[Washington Resistance Army]

What's amusing is that people here are assuming the corporate at BWW are social justice cucks and just fired the employees without doing due diligence because they're whitey haters.

>implying any corporation would bother doing due diligence when workers are replaceable