It was close. That’s enough of a reason for a recount.
According to your logic several democrats in my state shouldn’t have asked for a recount because there wasn’t any fraud just super close elections
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by Thermodolia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:11 pm
by Napkizemlja » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:11 pm
by Zurkerx » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:12 pm
by San Lumen » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:13 pm
Zurkerx wrote:San Lumen wrote:And as I already told you there is no provision in the state constitution for a runoff election as it merely requires one get the most votes.
I'm pretty sure if this was the other way around, you would be calling for a recount and for a run-off election. While that's the current law there, lawmakers should at least implement in future elections that a runoff is required if no candidate gets a simple majority. Sounds simple I think.
by Thermodolia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:14 pm
by Des-Bal » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:14 pm
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by Napkizemlja » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:14 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:15 pm
San Lumen wrote:Napkizemlja wrote:Then surely there is nothing to fear from the state legislature investigating things. :^)
They are strongly hinting at overturning the result.Zurkerx wrote:
I'm pretty sure if this was the other way around, you would be calling for a recount and for a run-off election. While that's the current law there, lawmakers should at least implement in future elections that a runoff is required if no candidate gets a simple majority. Sounds simple I think.
No I would not. I would accept the outcome unlike Republicans in Kentucky
by USS Monitor » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:16 pm
Thermodolia wrote:USS Monitor wrote:If people wanted to vote for Bevin, they would have voted for Bevin instead of the Libertarian.
The Libertarians draw from both sides of the aisle, as well as attracting people that might otherwise sit out. The majority of their base are right-leaning, but unless you poll the Libertarians and ask them who their second choice is, you can't know how those votes would split. If you want to use "but the Libertarians would have chosen our guy as their second choice!" as an excuse, then you need to implement ranked choice voting and let voters actually give you that information.
Or you do what France and Georgia (US state) do and run another election with just top two candidates
by Thermodolia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:16 pm
by The East Marches II » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:16 pm
Des-Bal wrote:EVIL Republicans commit BRAZEN THEFT by STEALING ELECTION in SILENT COUP by SEEKING RECOUNT IN CLOSE RACE.
by Napkizemlja » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:17 pm
by Zurkerx » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:17 pm
San Lumen wrote:Zurkerx wrote:
I'm pretty sure if this was the other way around, you would be calling for a recount and for a run-off election. While that's the current law there, lawmakers should at least implement in future elections that a runoff is required if no candidate gets a simple majority. Sounds simple I think.
No I would not. I would accept the outcome unlike Republicans in Kentucky
by South World » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:17 pm
San Lumen wrote:https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/06/beshear-vs-bevin-legislature-could-decide-race-senate-president-says/4174103002/
Republicans in the Kentucky legislature are considering outright stealing the Governor election they just lost according to the Senate President. They re making the claim that the Libertarian candidate was a spoiler and Bevin would have won if not for him and might attempt to declare Bevin the winner according to the Senate President Steve Stiver. Bevin has not conceded to Beshear.
If this plot succeeds I hope there are mass protests in Frankfort and these people are forced out of the capitol building. Hopefully a court will stop this coup. Gov elect Beshear isnt going to let them get away with it.
I think its quite clear at this point Republicans see Democracy as an annoyance.
Your thoughts NSG?
by United Muscovite Nations » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:18 pm
by The East Marches II » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:18 pm
by Thermodolia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:19 pm
by USS Monitor » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:20 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Take this moment to seize the state capitol, dissolve the legislature and executive, and establish a federation in Kentucky to rule by consensus rather than procedure.
by The East Marches II » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:20 pm
by The East Marches II » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:21 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Take this moment to seize the state capitol, dissolve the legislature and executive, and establish a federation in Kentucky to rule by consensus rather than procedure.
by Galloism » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:21 pm
San Lumen wrote:Its probably not going to overturn the result but Jill Stein has raised almost 6 million dollars to pay for a recount in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. I hope it does change the result but the odds are very low. As a candidate she has the legal right to ask for a recount if she pays the fee because the margin is outside what would trigger a automatic recount. I still hope the electoral college comes to its senses and overturns the result in favor of the popular vote winner.
San Lumen wrote:there should be a recount in Florida and North Carolina too and in every future election only paper ballots used.
by United Muscovite Nations » Wed Nov 06, 2019 1:23 pm
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