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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:43 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
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Just wait until the US gets post-colonial style "majority rule" after 2044.


I kinda feel like the U.S. has too much an ingrained culture to go down without a fight like the Rhodies or Boers.

The last time an election in Kentucky was overturned back in 1899 it led to the only gubernatorial assassination in US history. Lets not go down the route your suggesting
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:43 pm

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What would you suggest as alternative?

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Postby Fahran » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:and what's the policy shafting urban areas out of representation they are entitled too and having their vote count less for statewide office?

Suburban areas aren't entitled to that over-sized level representation under the system I envision. I support a mixed approach to representation in a bid to balance a litany of interests and to accommodate localism sufficiently.

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:43 pm

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What would you suggest as alternative?

Judging by his name, Corporate Fascism.

Classical Fascism actually, having read fascist theory, the only form of corporate government that is compatible is when said corporations are controlled by the proletariat
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:44 pm

Napkizemlja wrote:
San Lumen wrote:The state constitution does not require that one get a majority of votes for statewide office merely they get the most votes. How is it wrong for Beshear not to receive the office he won fair and square? Why do you hate democracy is the question you should be asking.

I do not hate democracy, it is clear that the majority of people in Kentucky have not voted for Beshear and his radical liberalism, instead favoring right of center candidates. Why should the majority be subjected to the will of a minority of voters? :^)


What "radical liberalism"? I'm not seeing anything remotely radical.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:44 pm

Fahran wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and what's the policy shafting urban areas out of representation they are entitled too and having their vote count less for statewide office?

Suburban areas aren't entitled to that over-sized level representation under the system I envision. I support a mixed approach to representation in a bid to balance a litany of interests and to accommodate localism sufficiently.

I don't follow. What would you do about statewide elections? Their vote counts less than someone on a farm?

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:44 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Anarchy worked out great for Somalia.

That's not what anarchism is. What I propose is a federation composed of agricultural communes which voluntarily trade among themselves and which are highly individualistic and lack coercive government.

So rural Iceland
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:45 pm

United Muscovite Nations wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Anarchy worked out great for Somalia.

That's not what anarchism is. What I propose is a federation composed of agricultural communes which voluntarily trade among themselves and which are highly individualistic and lack coercive government.


Which will last a whole ten minutes before it collapses, because that's how the game theory works out.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Fahran » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:I don't follow. What would you do about statewide elections? Their vote counts less than someone on a farm?

Really, I'd leave it the same since there's no compelling reason to change it. Ideally, I would weigh votes by district to somewhat reduce the influence of suburban areas relative to rural areas - while still allowing suburban areas to have more representation as a natural result of their higher population density.

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:47 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
United Muscovite Nations wrote:That's not what anarchism is. What I propose is a federation composed of agricultural communes which voluntarily trade among themselves and which are highly individualistic and lack coercive government.

So rural Iceland

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:47 pm

Fahran wrote:
Nakena wrote:
What would you suggest as alternative?

Judging by his name, Corporate Fascism.

Also “corporate fascism” is an oxymoron
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:47 pm

Fahran wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I don't follow. What would you do about statewide elections? Their vote counts less than someone on a farm?

Really, I'd leave it the same since there's no compelling reason to change it. Ideally, I would weigh votes by district to somewhat reduce the influence of suburban areas relative to rural areas - while still allowing suburban areas to have more representation as a natural result of their higher population density.

your still unfairly giving more representation to rural areas.

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Postby United Muscovite Nations » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:47 pm

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United Muscovite Nations wrote:That's not what anarchism is. What I propose is a federation composed of agricultural communes which voluntarily trade among themselves and which are highly individualistic and lack coercive government.


Which will last a whole ten minutes before it collapses, because that's how the game theory works out.

So are we innately tyrannical?
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:47 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Exactly that's why our last election had little miss AOC rip-off making up voter suppression and crapp to try and have a re election and hope she got more votes. God bless Governor Kemp!
Don't you love democracy?

Don’t compare Abrams to AOC, AOC is just a different level of insanity

Yeah at least Stacey had some brains left and a couple good ideas
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Postby Fahran » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:47 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Fahran wrote:Judging by his name, Corporate Fascism.

Also “corporate fascism” is an oxymoron

Corporatism is not the same as corporation here.

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Postby Fahran » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:48 pm

San Lumen wrote:your still unfairly giving more representation to rural areas.

Depends on the standard of fairness you adopt.

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Postby New Sukberia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:49 pm

Fahran wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Also “corporate fascism” is an oxymoron

Corporatism is not the same as corporation here.

Isn't corporatism just social-democracy for dictatorships?

Actual question here.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:49 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Don’t compare Abrams to AOC, AOC is just a different level of insanity

Yeah at least Stacey had [...] a couple good ideas

yeah, she's a centrist so most of her ideas suck but the whole burning the flag thing is pretty cool
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:50 pm

New Sukberia wrote:
Fahran wrote:Corporatism is not the same as corporation here.

Isn't corporatism just social-democracy for dictatorships?

Actual question here.

no
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:50 pm

Fahran wrote:
San Lumen wrote:your still unfairly giving more representation to rural areas.

Depends on the standard of fairness you adopt.

or you could just leave things as they are.

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Postby Aureumterra » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:50 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:So rural Iceland

is Iceland actually that or what

Well at least when I was growing up, each family in our village had their own niche, my family ran a branch of Landsbankínn (well its predecessor at the time), but there were fishermen, whalers, store owners, and a mayor. We traded our goods in exchange for other goods and very rarely did we actually use monetary currency
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:50 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:is Iceland actually that or what

Well at least when I was growing up, each family in our village had their own niche, my family ran a branch of Landsbankínn, but there were fishermen, whalers, store owners, and a mayor. We traded our goods in exchange for other goods and very rarely did we actually use monetary currency

Thats not going to work on a large scale

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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:51 pm

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Salandriagado wrote:
Which will last a whole ten minutes before it collapses, because that's how the game theory works out.

So are we innately tyrannical?


No, your suggestion is just blatantly moronic, because it relies on zero people being selfish.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:51 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:is Iceland actually that or what

Well at least when I was growing up, each family in our village had their own niche, my family ran a branch of Landsbankínn, but there were fishermen, whalers, store owners, and a mayor. We traded our goods in exchange for other goods and very rarely did we actually use monetary currency

Sure is a shame you're all going to have to be replaced by Northumbrian settlers one day, then
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Postby New Sukberia » Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:51 pm

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
New Sukberia wrote:Isn't corporatism just social-democracy for dictatorships?

Actual question here.

no

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