Dresden declares 'Nazi emergency'

[Loben The 2nd]

anyway, what is the specific threat that these firmly in the closet authoritarians so worried about.

[Proctopeo]

Sounds like hyperbolic bullshit fearmongering. I'm not surprised, just disappointed.

[Loben The 2nd]

Sounds like hyperbolic bullshit fearmongering. I'm not surprised, just disappointed.

Its Europe.


im not surprised anymore, just wish we'd abandon them

[The Liberated Territories]

Supporting immigration restrictions/anti immigrant rhetoric = Nazi?

I'm generally for looser immigration restrictions but that sounds stupid ngl

More violence is worrying but the Nazis dont have a monopoly on that either.

[Benuty]

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It’s a joke referencing that Dresden was the first city targeted by the RAF bomber command in WWII.

I'm aware. And the allied bombing of Dresden was incredibly heinous.

It may have been heinous, but considering what in all we could have done the victims of Dresden died by having themselves vaporized by fire tornadoes...it just seems that is more humane than living as an irradiated freak. Case in point those too lucky to die, but unlucky to be close enough literally had their skin vaporized, and looked like monsters. People who saw them called them ant-alligator men. On that note though Dresden has produced a nice market for memes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/ ... ima_there/

Not disparaging the victims, but I think I'd prefer instant death over having to deal with the horrific crap of being "lucky" enough to survive an atomic bomb in this kind of shape.

[Benuty]

Sounds like hyperbolic bullshit fearmongering. I'm not surprised, just disappointed.

Its Europe.


im not surprised anymore, just wish we'd abandon them

Honestly, the Soviets raping them into submission following the failure of Operation Unthinkable might have been for the best.

[Bisim]

You'd think Germany of all places would be careful with the term, "Nazi."

[Benuty]

You'd think Germany of all places would be careful with the term, "Nazi."

It's in the nature of the German to want to destroy themselves. They cannot help it, after all as Bismarck once said: "The only thing Germans fear is God". That hasn't been the case for quite some time to tell you the truth.

[The Two Jerseys]

You'd think Germany of all places would be careful with the term, "Nazi."

It's in the nature of the German to want to destroy themselves. They cannot help it, after all as Bismarck once said: "The only thing Germans fear is God". That hasn't been the case for quite some time to tell you the truth.

Mmm, America is now God...

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

ISIS was a splinter cell of Al-Qaeda, post Iraq war gave them the perfect conditions to split away fully and become the ISIS we know and hate today.

maybe we should not have withdrawn in the first place.

sure it gave Obama a lot of postitve PR.

Maybe the US shouldn't have invaded Iraq at all.

Or atleast come up with a half way decent exit plan at the start of the war.

The US had to bring home it's troops at some point, the better idea would be not invading Iraq in the first place.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

anyway, what is the specific threat that these firmly in the closet authoritarians so worried about.

Alt right going off the deep end and attacking people.

[Benuty]

maybe we should not have withdrawn in the first place.

sure it gave Obama a lot of postitve PR.

Maybe the US shouldn't have invaded Iraq at all.

Or atleast come up with a half way decent exit plan at the start of the war.

The US had to bring home it's troops at some point, the better idea would be not invading Iraq in the first place.

Implying Colin Powell shouldn't have committed political suicide at the UN in exchange for that sweet benefits package after he left office is obviously heresy.

[Vetalia]

What exact policies of the National Socialist German Workers' Party are these so-called Nazis espousing? The article says they are guilty of " "anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, misanthropic and right-wing extremist attitudes" which pretty much sounds like boilerplate SED propaganda condemning anti-Communists from the DDR days. Not surprising Die Linke supported it since they're the old SED at heart, they probably wrote it considering the strange use of "misanthropic" which is an old-school Communist phraseology.

[Benuty]

What exact policies of the National Socialist German Workers' Party are these so-called Nazis espousing? The article says they are guilty of " "anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, misanthropic and right-wing extremist attitudes" which pretty much sounds like boilerplate SED propaganda condemning anti-Communists from the DDR days.

Not to mention if the internet is correct nearly every human in existence has become misanthropic, and extremist in some way.

[Loben The 2nd]

What exact policies of the National Socialist German Workers' Party are these so-called Nazis espousing? The article says they are guilty of " "anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, misanthropic and right-wing extremist attitudes" which pretty much sounds like boilerplate SED propaganda condemning anti-Communists from the DDR days.

what the hell is a Pluralist

[Benuty]

What exact policies of the National Socialist German Workers' Party are these so-called Nazis espousing? The article says they are guilty of " "anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, misanthropic and right-wing extremist attitudes" which pretty much sounds like boilerplate SED propaganda condemning anti-Communists from the DDR days.

what the hell is a Pluralist

My guess is anti-whatever the political establishment has deemed acceptable because people voted for it.

[Vetalia]

What exact policies of the National Socialist German Workers' Party are these so-called Nazis espousing? The article says they are guilty of " "anti-democratic, anti-pluralist, misanthropic and right-wing extremist attitudes" which pretty much sounds like boilerplate SED propaganda condemning anti-Communists from the DDR days.

what the hell is a Pluralist

Someone who supports unrestricted immigration despite costs or reality of the consequences.

The one that stuck out for me was "misanthropic"...that term in relation to politics is so old-school Communist this resolution HAD to be drafted by Die Linke, which is the SED without Soviet firepower to back it up.

[Loben The 2nd]

what the hell is a Pluralist

Someone who supports unrestricted immigration despite costs or reality of the consequences.

The one that stuck out for me was "misanthropic"...that term in relation to politics is so old-school Communist this resolution HAD to be drafted by Die Linke, which is the SED without Soviet firepower to back it up.

they shouldve been barred from office after the cold war.

and expelled.

[The Two Jerseys]

what the hell is a Pluralist

My guess is anti-whatever the political establishment has deemed acceptable because people voted for it.

Pluralism (political theory): "the view that politics and decision making are located mostly in the framework of government, but that many non-governmental groups use their resources to exert influence"

Pluralism (political philosophy): "the recognition and affirmation of diversity within a political body, which permits the peaceful coexistence of different interests, convictions, and lifestyles"

I'm guessing that they're referring to the latter, which is ironic.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Maybe the US shouldn't have invaded Iraq at all.

Or atleast come up with a half way decent exit plan at the start of the war.

The US had to bring home it's troops at some point, the better idea would be not invading Iraq in the first place.

Implying Colin Powell shouldn't have committed political suicide at the UN in exchange for that sweet benefits package after he left office is obviously heresy.

Im not implying that, I think.

The iraq war should have never happened.

[Emulation White]

This article is antagonistic filth.

We can either keep spinning our wheels with this artificial Left-Right drivel or we can acknowledge the desire for human beings to live in societies that are conducive to their needs and cooperate towards that goal. Immigration should not be forced on those of us who don't want it and we should have the right to secede from any majority that does not respect our independence and autonomy.

Less propaganda\\\More Progress.

[Vetalia]

Someone who supports unrestricted immigration despite costs or reality of the consequences.

The one that stuck out for me was "misanthropic"...that term in relation to politics is so old-school Communist this resolution HAD to be drafted by Die Linke, which is the SED without Soviet firepower to back it up.

they shouldve been barred from office after the cold war.

and expelled.

We're okay, they learned their lesson back then...right? LOL no, if Die Linke ever had the chance that Anti-Fascist Protection Barrier would be rebuilt and staffed post-haste to shoot anyone who dared to cross the border to the decadent capitalist west. They might even drag Honecker's carcass out and embalm it like that piece of shit Lenin.

[Sovaal]

I'm afraid I'm not all that familiar on German politics, but article doesn't really go that in depth into the proclaimed Nazis, and while I don't know how liberally the term is used there considering that I've been called everything from a Nazis to a communist to an anarchist I tend to be skeptical when the political insults get thrown around.

Now lets get to the meat of the issue. Most of the time when stuff like this gets brought up people go on about how we need to ban these groups and hate speech and so on. Thing is, with actual Nazis that's not really solving the problem, rather just sweeping it under the rug to fester. Way I see it the only thing that can truly stop an authoritarian is force, and so if there really is a Nazi threat to the nation it needs to be dealt with force in kind. Same with other authoritarians, right or left or center or on the 4th plane grilling.

Thing is, at that point, what stopping you from becoming an authoritarian? That's a dark path to go down on, one that I don't see democracy surviving.

Maybe I'd just rather not find myself disfranchised and facing a firing squad because the government decides I have the wrong political views.

[Kaystein]

"People we disagree with becoming more politically active it seems. News at 11."

[Bisim]

"People we disagree with becoming more politically active it seems. News at 11."

"People we disagree with are literal monsters and are completely unworthy of consideration or respect. Now to Chaz with sports."