LEAST Favorite Time / Event of History

[Sundiata]

Tough, there are many grim chapters in human history to choose from.

1) Roman persecution of Christians.
2) The Holocaust
3) The Transatlantic Slave Trade.
4) The Eugenics Movement
5) The Sexual Revolution (the normalization of abortion, contraception, premarital sex, divorce, pornography)

[Sovaal]

Tough, there are many grim chapters in human history to choose from.

1) Roman persecution of Christians.
2) The Holocaust
3) The Transatlantic Slave Trade.
4) The Eugenics Movement
5) The Sexual Revolution

One of these is unlike the others.

[Atheris]

right now, because i'm currently preparing for the big 3 n's and i'm not ready

[Bombadil]

I think it's hard to get past the Black Death purely for the massive social upheaval it created, it genuinely changed history. It was also probably a miserable and scary time to be alive. We can't assess the impact it has across all Eurasia so I suspect it's probably a larger event than we can determine.

[Sundiata]

Tough, there are many grim chapters in human history to choose from.

1) Roman persecution of Christians.
2) The Holocaust
3) The Transatlantic Slave Trade.
4) The Eugenics Movement
5) The Sexual Revolution (the normalization of abortion, contraception, premarital sex, divorce, pornography)

One of these is unlike the others.

I'm in the Christian discussion thread if you'd like to have that talk. That said, let's do our mutual best not to change the topic of discussion here.

[Sovaal]

I think it's hard to get past the Black Death purely for the massive social upheaval it created, it genuinely changed history. It was also probably a miserable and scary time to be alive. We can't assess the impact it has across all Eurasia so I suspect it's probably a larger event than we can determine.

The Mongol conquests probably wouldn't be fun either.

[Kowani]

I think it's hard to get past the Black Death purely for the massive social upheaval it created, it genuinely changed history. It was also probably a miserable and scary time to be alive. We can't assess the impact it has across all Eurasia so I suspect it's probably a larger event than we can determine.

The Mongol conquests probably wouldn't be fun either.

The Mongol Conquests facilitated the Black Death. You cannot separate the latter from the former.

[Atheris]

I think it's hard to get past the Black Death purely for the massive social upheaval it created, it genuinely changed history. It was also probably a miserable and scary time to be alive. We can't assess the impact it has across all Eurasia so I suspect it's probably a larger event than we can determine.

The Mongol conquests probably wouldn't be fun either.

Genghis Khan:

- His last heir reigned in Uzbekistan until 1925. 1. 9. 2. 5. That's almost a millennium of Khan descendants.
- He left entire portions of the world unpopulated to this day. Not under - completely unpopulated.
- There are 3 different ways to how he died. He either fell off his horse, was killed by a sex worker, or had a sorcerer king cast a spell on him.
- He killed his blood brother.
- He escaped slavery by swinging his stocks to hit a young boy to watch over him, hiding in reeds, and walking until he reached a sympathetic house.
- He single-handedly transformed the Steppe from the closest you can get to an apocalyptic wasteland on earth to one of the richest, if not the richest, area of the world in about 60 years.

[Sovaal]

The Mongol conquests probably wouldn't be fun either.

The Mongol Conquests facilitated the Black Death. You cannot separate the latter from the former.

Of course you can, considering the initial Mongol conquest where in the 1200's and the Black Death in the mid 1300's. One facilitated the other, sure, but all of history is like that.

[Duhon]

My least favorite event? Easy -- the end of all life in the universe, whether it comes through the usual planetary suspects, entropy, or the Big Crunch.

No disappointment looms larger than failing to maintain life -- any kind of life, no matter how insignificant in the cosmological scale.

[Bombadil]

The Mongol Conquests facilitated the Black Death. You cannot separate the latter from the former.

Uh yah you can, considering the initial Mongol conquest where in the 1200's and the Black Death in the mid 1300's. One facilitated the other, sure, but all of history is like that.

It was also helped by climate change that caused rodent migration. However the established ties of the Silk Road given the invasions certainly created a path.

Still.. it's not just the plague, it's the general living conditions of the time, the social upheaval, the climate of fear and its repercussions.. just think overall it was a relatively shitty time to be alive.

[Sovaal]

Uh yah you can, considering the initial Mongol conquest where in the 1200's and the Black Death in the mid 1300's. One facilitated the other, sure, but all of history is like that.

It was also helped by climate change that that caused rodent migration. However the established ties of the Silk Road given the invasions certainly created a path.

Still.. it's not just the plague, it's the general living conditions of the time, the social upheaval, the climate of fear and its repercussions.. just think overall it was a relatively shitty time to be alive.

Yah I wouldn't want to live any time before the 1950's, and even alter if I wasn't a white male.

[Kowani]

The Mongol Conquests facilitated the Black Death. You cannot separate the latter from the former.

Uh yah you can, considering the initial Mongol conquest where in the 1200's and the Black Death in the mid 1300's. One facilitated the other, sure, but all of history is like that.

Well, no. Without the Mongol Conquest of the Jurched, and later, much of what is now China, along with the creation of the Silk Road and unprecedented levels of global interconnection, the Black Death doesn’t spread anywhere beyond a local pandemic. Europe, the Middle East, etc…would be totally untouched. The disease would’ve likely sprouted regardless, but it wouldn’t’ve come close to what it was in history.

[Valrifell]

Tentatively nominating the Black Death, with the 1918 influenza pandemic in second place. Each likely caused more deaths than the entirety of WW2, and almost certainly more than any genocide or famine in history. Disease really sucks, guys.

There are several macabre arguments that the black death directly translated into the centuries of European domination as it marked the end of the medieval period and started a trend where peasantry were able to demand better conditions.

[Heloin]

The Mongol Conquests facilitated the Black Death. You cannot separate the latter from the former.

Of course you can, considering the initial Mongol conquest where in the 1200's and the Black Death in the mid 1300's. One facilitated the other, sure, but all of history is like that.

"To know the cause of the First World one must look back to the fall of Babylon."

[Bombadil]

Tentatively nominating the Black Death, with the 1918 influenza pandemic in second place. Each likely caused more deaths than the entirety of WW2, and almost certainly more than any genocide or famine in history. Disease really sucks, guys.

There are several macabre arguments that the black death directly translated into the centuries of European domination as it marked the end of the medieval period and started a trend where peasantry were able to demand better conditions.

Even where true, and I think it certainly contributed to breaking the power of nobility and the Pope.. it was still a shitty time to be alive.

[Kowani]

Tough, there are many grim chapters in human history to choose from.

1) Roman persecution of Christians.
2) The Holocaust
3) The Transatlantic Slave Trade.
4) The Eugenics Movement
5) The Sexual Revolution (the normalization of abortion, contraception, premarital sex, divorce, pornography)

Normalization of pornography? Porn’s existed since at least Ancient Rome. Contraception as well. You’re a bit late.

[Great Buptain and Toadstool]

Sexual Revolution.
Though feminists won the Sexual Revolution, women lost. This is because, in the wake of the destruction of marriage, women have been reduced to sex objects in the minds of most men.
Well, for starters, rape would be much less common and families would be more stable if it had never happened.

[Heloin]

Sexual Revolution.
Though feminists won the Sexual Revolution, women lost. This is because, in the wake of the destruction of marriage, women have been reduced to sex objects in the minds of most men.
Well, for starters, rape would be much less common and families would be more stable if it had never happened.

Literally none of that is true.

[Kowani]

Sexual Revolution.
Though feminists won the Sexual Revolution, women lost. This is because, in the wake of the destruction of marriage, women have been reduced to sex objects in the minds of most men.
Well, for starters, rape would be much less common and families would be more stable if it had never happened.

…Literally nothing but lies.

[Atheris]

Sexual Revolution.
Though feminists won the Sexual Revolution, women lost. This is because, in the wake of the destruction of marriage, women have been reduced to sex objects in the minds of most men.
Well, for starters, rape would be much less common and families would be more stable if it had never happened.

come on, you're just saying this because november's coming up soon and you don't want to lose.

[Kromi]

Treaty of Versailles (I'm not German tho, I just feel sympathy). If it was fairer, WW2 might have never happened.

[Sundiata]

Sexual Revolution.
Though feminists won the Sexual Revolution, women lost. This is because, in the wake of the destruction of marriage, women have been reduced to sex objects in the minds of most men.

I agree.

Men and women treat one another so horribly today, it's truly sickening.

[Great Buptain and Toadstool]

Sexual Revolution.
Though feminists won the Sexual Revolution, women lost. This is because, in the wake of the destruction of marriage, women have been reduced to sex objects in the minds of most men.
Well, for starters, rape would be much less common and families would be more stable if it had never happened.

come on, you're just saying this because november's coming up soon and you don't want to lose.

Yeah. Honestly, if it weren't for that, I would have gone with WW1.

[Atheris]

Treaty of Versailles (I'm not German tho, I just feel sympathy). If it was fairer, WW2 might have never happened.

To add onto this:

My legitimate answer is WW1.

World War 1 was such a stupid, futile, and sadly inevitable war. The words "Great War," "War to End all Wars," "Seminal Catastrophe," and "First World War" do nothing to justify it.

World War 1 has caused over a billion deaths. Not the war itself, but its aftereffects. The Spanish Flu, the Russian Revolution, the Holocaust, the Great Leap Forward, World War 2, the Rwandan Genocide, the Yugoslav Wars, the Cold War in general, the rise of extremism today...

If WW1 somehow never happened (or if Germany won, but I digress), then we would be in a better place.