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Postby Konolas » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:42 am

You guys know that sexual transitions can seriously destroy someones life if the person is forced. You guys instantly jump to the defence of the person which already was forcing a YOUNG boy from the age of 3 to become a girl, and also hating on the father which was trying to take the boy from that SJW pig who thinks that the male sex should be eliminated. Honestly people who say that the boy should change sex because he thinks that he is a girl are as idiotic if not more than the person that told said boy that he is a girl. What the person is doing is taking people to court because of her research» on facebook on why people of the male sex should dissapear. Honestly isn’t this what this woman is doing child abuse forcing a boy to become a girl from years of manipulation
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:45 am

Konolas wrote:You guys know that sexual transitions can seriously destroy someones life if the person is forced. You guys instantly jump to the defence of the person which already was forcing a YOUNG boy from the age of 3 to become a girl, and also hating on the father which was trying to take the boy from that SJW pig who thinks that the male sex should be eliminated. Honestly people who say that the boy should change sex because he thinks that he is a girl are as idiotic if not more than the person that told said boy that he is a girl. What the person is doing is taking people to court because of her research» on facebook on why people of the male sex should dissapear. Honestly isn’t this what this woman is doing child abuse forcing a boy to become a girl from years of manipulation

You wanna source, like... any of the shit you just said?
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:46 am

Greater Carloso wrote:That is absolutely ridiculous. A 3-year-old, let alone a 7-year-old, cannot make these decisions and everybody knows that. To say otherwise is a denial of common sense.

Saiwania wrote:What I object to is a 3 year old's supposed preferences being given any weight, much less a 7 year old's.

Wait... do you guys know that words have meanng? :unsure:

You know, since you both say you think a 3-year old is better suited to make decisions than a 7-year old? :blink:
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:48 am

Konolas wrote:You guys know that sexual transitions can seriously destroy someones life if the person is forced. You guys instantly jump to the defence of the person which already was forcing a YOUNG boy from the age of 3 to become a girl, and also hating on the father which was trying to take the boy from that SJW pig who thinks that the male sex should be eliminated. Honestly people who say that the boy should change sex because he thinks that he is a girl are as idiotic if not more than the person that told said boy that he is a girl. What the person is doing is taking people to court because of her research» on facebook on why people of the male sex should dissapear. Honestly isn’t this what this woman is doing child abuse forcing a boy to become a girl from years of manipulation


Amazing. Every word of what you just said... Was wrong.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:48 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Konolas wrote:You guys know that sexual transitions can seriously destroy someones life if the person is forced. You guys instantly jump to the defence of the person which already was forcing a YOUNG boy from the age of 3 to become a girl, and also hating on the father which was trying to take the boy from that SJW pig who thinks that the male sex should be eliminated. Honestly people who say that the boy should change sex because he thinks that he is a girl are as idiotic if not more than the person that told said boy that he is a girl. What the person is doing is taking people to court because of her research» on facebook on why people of the male sex should dissapear. Honestly isn’t this what this woman is doing child abuse forcing a boy to become a girl from years of manipulation

You wanna source, like... any of the shit you just said?


afaik the mother did testify in court she started treating him as a girl when he was 3 because he liked a McDonalds toy that was meant for girls, which is all sorts of absurd. Don't get me wrong I'm more supportive of trans rights than a lot of the RWDT regulars but the mom kinda comes across as a psycho here.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:50 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:You wanna source, like... any of the shit you just said?


afaik the mother did testify in court she started treating him as a girl when he was 3 because he liked a McDonalds toy that was meant for girls, which is all sorts of absurd. Don't get me wrong I'm more supportive of trans rights than a lot of the RWDT regulars but the mom kinda comes across as a psycho here.


So you're ignoring all the stuff about medical review because that doesn't fit her pushing her daughter.
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:51 am

Konolas wrote:You guys know that sexual transitions can seriously destroy someones life if the person is forced. You guys instantly jump to the defence of the person which already was forcing a YOUNG boy from the age of 3 to become a girl

The mother is not forcing any child to do anything. The father is forcing the child to wear boy's clothes, despite the child saying they don't want to and that it makes them sad.

Konolas wrote:and also hating on the father

The abusive, grifting, piece of shit father, who've got a long history of telling lies and abusing children.

Konolas wrote:which was trying to take the boy from that SJW pig who thinks that the male sex should be eliminated.

Well that's just an outright lie.

Konolas wrote:Honestly people who say that the boy should change sex

Who's saying that?

Konolas wrote: because he thinks that he is a girl are as idiotic if not more than the person that told said boy that he is a girl.

That would be the child itself.

Konolas wrote:What the person is doing is taking people to court because of her research» on facebook on why people of the male sex should dissapear. Honestly isn’t this what this woman is doing child abuse forcing a boy to become a girl from years of manipulation

No.
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Postby Page » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:52 am

Konolas wrote:What the person is doing is taking people to court because of her research» on facebook on why people of the male sex should dissapear. Honestly isn’t this what this woman is doing child abuse forcing a boy to become a girl from years of manipulation


The amount of shit in this thread that has been made up out of absolutely nothing is astonishing. Now there's a conspiracy to make the male sex disappear... god damn, dude.

So if a child was assigned female at birth and identified as a boy, you would you support him transitioning? Are you even aware that there are FTM people at all or does that complicate your narrative?
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Postby Gravlen » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:52 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:You wanna source, like... any of the shit you just said?


afaik the mother did testify in court she started treating him as a girl when he was 3 because he liked a McDonalds toy that was meant for girls, which is all sorts of absurd. Don't get me wrong I'm more supportive of trans rights than a lot of the RWDT regulars but the mom kinda comes across as a psycho here.

Which page of the transcript did you find that on? I did not see it at all.

You wouldn't be making stuff up, would you? Or, rather, speaking while not knowing?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:56 am

Gravlen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
afaik the mother did testify in court she started treating him as a girl when he was 3 because he liked a McDonalds toy that was meant for girls, which is all sorts of absurd. Don't get me wrong I'm more supportive of trans rights than a lot of the RWDT regulars but the mom kinda comes across as a psycho here.

Which page of the transcript did you find that on? I did not see it at all.

You wouldn't be making stuff up, would you? Or, rather, speaking while not knowing?


The Texan has been covering this whole thing pretty closely and that's what they've been reporting. Also apparently the kid liked Frozen and that was another "sign".
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:57 am

That poor boy. 7 is far too young to be able to make these sorts of decisions yourself. That's why the age of consent, driving age, drinking age, voting age and all the rest of it are set in the mid-to-late teens.

Child abuse on the mother's part and I'm glad to see this has been blocked. People under the age of 18 should not be able to transition, even with parental consent. No exceptions.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:59 am

"Puberty blockers are reversible"

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49036145

Newsnight's investigation comes amid growing concern over the way Gids is operating.

In an open letter last week, former Gids clinician Dr Kirsty Entwistle raised concerns over the way puberty blockers were being presented to children as "fully reversible", when their long-term impact was unknown.

She also said staff were unable to raise concerns without risking being branded transphobic.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:00 am

Drongonia wrote:That poor boy. 7 is far too young to be able to make these sorts of decisions yourself. That's why the age of consent, driving age, drinking age, voting age and all the rest of it are set in the mid-to-late teens.

Child abuse on the mother's part and I'm glad to see this has been blocked. People under the age of 18 should not be able to transition, even with parental consent. No exceptions.


But the documented physical and psychological abuse on the part of the father is totally OK apparently, while respecting your child is apparently the worst child abuse possible.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:00 am

Drongonia wrote:That poor boy. 7 is far too young to be able to make these sorts of decisions yourself. That's why the age of consent, driving age, drinking age, voting age and all the rest of it are set in the mid-to-late teens.

Child abuse on the mother's part and I'm glad to see this has been blocked. People under the age of 18 should not be able to transition, even with parental consent. No exceptions.


Please, tell me what sort of decision you think is being made and what it entails.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:01 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:"Puberty blockers are reversible"

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49036145

Newsnight's investigation comes amid growing concern over the way Gids is operating.

In an open letter last week, former Gids clinician Dr Kirsty Entwistle raised concerns over the way puberty blockers were being presented to children as "fully reversible", when their long-term impact was unknown.

She also said staff were unable to raise concerns without risking being branded transphobic.


So what peer reviewed research is she citing?
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:03 am

Vassenor wrote:But the documented physical and psychological abuse on the part of the father is totally OK apparently, while respecting your child is apparently the worst child abuse possible.

If the father actually did abuse that kid, that's indefensible. But that's not what I mentioned, is it? And, yeah, respecting your child's judgement about issues that are incomprehensible at that age is doing them a favour.

Necroghastia wrote:Please, tell me what sort of decision you think is being made and what it entails.

Children shouldn't be exposed to any kind of transgenderism, even if it just involves crossdressing, which the mother was already doing to this poor kid.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:04 am

Also idk if this bit was mentioned anywhere else in the thread but apparently the Governor is having the AG and Family Services get involved in some way or another. So that's gonna be fun.
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 am

SD_Film Artists wrote:"Puberty blockers are reversible"
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49036145
She also said staff were unable to raise concerns without risking being branded transphobic.


From that article:
Preliminary data for 30 of the 44 young people on the study was made available to the Tavistock's board in 2015. It showed that after a year on puberty blockers, there was a significant increase found in those answering the statement "I deliberately try to hurt or kill myself".

Y I K E S. This is one of the many reasons kids shouldn't be exposed to any of this.

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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:05 am

Drongonia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:But the documented physical and psychological abuse on the part of the father is totally OK apparently, while respecting your child is apparently the worst child abuse possible.

If the father actually did abuse that kid, that's indefensible. But that's not what I mentioned, is it? And, yeah, respecting your child's judgement about issues that are incomprehensible at that age is doing them a favour.

Clothing and name preferences are incomprehensible to kids? Since when?

Necroghastia wrote:Please, tell me what sort of decision you think is being made and what it entails.

Children shouldn't be exposed to any kind of transgenderism, even if it just involves crossdressing, which the mother was already doing to this poor kid.

Why?
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:06 am

There is just no way that puberty blockers are 100% reversible in my mind. This is like saying that a male with for example, a long term sex addiction- can just break it and recover overnight and somehow reverse any excessive hair loss they've gotten as a result of too much testosterone being converted to DHT.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:08 am

Necroghastia wrote:
Drongonia wrote:If the father actually did abuse that kid, that's indefensible. But that's not what I mentioned, is it? And, yeah, respecting your child's judgement about issues that are incomprehensible at that age is doing them a favour.

Clothing and name preferences are incomprehensible to kids? Since when?

Children shouldn't be exposed to any kind of transgenderism, even if it just involves crossdressing, which the mother was already doing to this poor kid.

Why?


Because it hurts the feelings of conservatives if they can't try and beat this out of kids at a young age.
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Postby Drongonia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:08 am

Necroghastia wrote:Clothing and name preferences are incomprehensible to kids? Since when?

Not as superficially as that, no, but the actual reality that entails. Living as a different gender and so on.

Necroghastia wrote:Why?

Because it's degenerate and unnatural even at an adult level, but even then it's their choice. As a kid, they shouldn't be allowed to take themselves down that path or be taken down it by a screwed up parent. Kids end up wanting to kill themselves after a year on puberty blockers for god's sake, and you're saying that's alright? Disgusting.

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:08 am

Vassenor wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:"Puberty blockers are reversible"

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49036145



So what peer reviewed research is she citing?


A medical study detailed in the report. It found that there may be a risk of increased suicide; however the study wasn't conclusive enough to prove anything (good or bad) about puberty blockers. Ie it couldn't prove that it was fully reversible either, thus it's 'unknown' alongside suspicions of decreased bone density.

The important thing to take from this is that the study comes from a leading UK transgender medical group, so they should be able to prove things or at least have a good idea of what they're doing before giving information to parents.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:09 am

Drongonia wrote:
SD_Film Artists wrote:"Puberty blockers are reversible"
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-49036145
She also said staff were unable to raise concerns without risking being branded transphobic.


From that article:
Preliminary data for 30 of the 44 young people on the study was made available to the Tavistock's board in 2015. It showed that after a year on puberty blockers, there was a significant increase found in those answering the statement "I deliberately try to hurt or kill myself".

Y I K E S. This is one of the many reasons kids shouldn't be exposed to any of this.


tbf that's not really shocking, iirc the majority of trans people are very suicidal
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Postby Neanderthaland » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:09 am

Saiwania wrote:There is just no way that puberty blockers are 100% reversible in my mind. This is like saying that a male with for example, a long term sex addiction- can just break it and recover overnight and somehow reverse any excessive hair loss they've gotten as a result of too much testosterone being converted to DHT.

Fortunately your mind has nothing to do with reality.
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