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Postby Liriena » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:25 pm

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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
New haven america wrote:*Gasp* Who would do such a thing!?

Lying on the internet to emotionally manipulate and radicalize people who don't know better and are unlikely to do fact-checking? Nah, that couldn't possibly be a thing.

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:26 pm

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>Dank maymays
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H-how do I learn your power?

Play Untitled Goose Game. Embrace the honk, and it will all come to you in good time.

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Postby Liriena » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:30 pm

New haven america wrote:
Liriena wrote:Play Untitled Goose Game. Embrace the honk, and it will all come to you in good time.

honk

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Postby Luziyca » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:31 pm

After having slogged through this entire thread and read many of the posts on this thread, I can safely conclude that there is no evidence that she will be put on hormone blockers for a few more years, and won't be undergoing SRS anytime soon, and that Luna's father is objectively a major douchebag.

Hopefully, the courts will rule in favor of the mother in this specific instance.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:33 pm

Liriena wrote:
New haven america wrote:honk

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Postby Chechenastan » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:33 pm

New haven america wrote:
Liriena wrote:Lying on the internet to emotionally manipulate and radicalize people who don't know better and are unlikely to do fact-checking? Nah, that couldn't possibly be a thing.

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies.



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Postby Gravlen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:34 pm

While the Jury found in favor of the mother and awarded her sole custody, the judge overruled the jury and kept joint custody.

A Dallas judge ruled Thursday that a father and mother will maintain joint custody of their children after a long court battle in which a 7-year-old’s gender became a central issue — and a crusade for conservative media and politicians, including Texas’ governor.


The mother still got some of what she originally wanted.
Gov. Greg Abbott, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and other politicians have latched on to reports in conservative media highlighting the father’s contention that the mother intended to force the child to undergo hormone therapy and puberty blockers to change the child’s biological gender.

In her ruling Thursday, Judge Kim Cooks noted there was never an order for the child to undergo such treatment.

Additionally, records show that Georgulas asked the court to require mutual written consent, which would ensure she and Younger agree on a course of action before the child undergoes any such treatment. Her request also noted the child “is not yet at the age where treatment with hormonal expressions, puberty blockers, and/or transgendered reassignment surgery is medically considered.”


The judge went on to ask the parents (the father) to shut the fuck up.
On Thursday, the judge prohibited both parents from commenting publicly on the case until the children are 18.

Cooks said in her ruling Thursday that both parents will need to consent to those decisions. Additionally, Younger will not be required to identify the child as a girl, as Georgulas wanted.

But the judge admonished Younger for bringing media attention to the case. She said the father had legitimate concerns at first but later courted controversy “at the cost of protection and privacy of his children.”


And let's not forget that the father is a successful grifter:
Younger has received about $130,000 in donations from his publicity campaign, Cooks said.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2019/10/24/dallas-child-custody-battle-hinges-on-7-year-olds-gender-identity-draws-attention-of-abbott-cruz/
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Postby Chechenastan » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:36 pm

How new is this information?

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Postby Gravlen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:37 pm

Chechenastan wrote:How new is this information?

7:07 PM on Oct 24, 2019

EDIT: Second, corroborating link
Judge Kim Cooks has ruled that the father and mother of 7-year-old James Younger will remain in joint managing conservatorship and both have a say in his medical treatment.

Judge Kim Cooks in the 255th Family District Court ruled today that seven-year-old James Younger and his twin brother would remain under a joint managing conservatorship under their parents, Jeff Younger and Anne Georgulas.

Cooks also gave the two parents joint decision making over all medical, dental, and psychiatric care for the twin boys, indicating that both the father and mother need to consent to the use of puberty blockers or other aspects of a “medical transition.”

Attorney fees are split.

Cooks also issued a gag order on the father.

https://thetexan.news/breaking-judge-grants-joint-medical-decision-making-in-younger-case-issues-gag-order-on-father/
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EnragedMaldivians wrote:That's preposterous. Gravlens's not a white nationalist; Gravlen's a penguin.

Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:38 pm

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
>Dank maymays
>Making anime real

H-how do I learn your power?

Play Untitled Goose Game. Embrace the honk, and it will all come to you in good time.


I'm afraid.... I can't do that Liri.

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Postby Chechenastan » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:39 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Chechenastan wrote:How new is this information?

7:07 PM on Oct 24, 2019


Eastern Time? It's 6:39 where I'm at,

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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:39 pm

Zapato wrote:Jeffrey Younger is a bad man, a horrible abusive father, and a shit human being in general. Fuck him with a rake.

Someone hasn’t read the OP
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:40 pm

Gravlen wrote:While the Jury found in favor of the mother and awarded her sole custody, the judge overruled the jury and kept joint custody.

A Dallas judge ruled Thursday that a father and mother will maintain joint custody of their children after a long court battle in which a 7-year-old’s gender became a central issue — and a crusade for conservative media and politicians, including Texas’ governor.


The mother still got some of what she originally wanted.
Gov. Greg Abbott, U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, and other politicians have latched on to reports in conservative media highlighting the father’s contention that the mother intended to force the child to undergo hormone therapy and puberty blockers to change the child’s biological gender.

In her ruling Thursday, Judge Kim Cooks noted there was never an order for the child to undergo such treatment.

Additionally, records show that Georgulas asked the court to require mutual written consent, which would ensure she and Younger agree on a course of action before the child undergoes any such treatment. Her request also noted the child “is not yet at the age where treatment with hormonal expressions, puberty blockers, and/or transgendered reassignment surgery is medically considered.”


The judge went on to ask the parents (the father) to shut the fuck up.
On Thursday, the judge prohibited both parents from commenting publicly on the case until the children are 18.

Cooks said in her ruling Thursday that both parents will need to consent to those decisions. Additionally, Younger will not be required to identify the child as a girl, as Georgulas wanted.

But the judge admonished Younger for bringing media attention to the case. She said the father had legitimate concerns at first but later courted controversy “at the cost of protection and privacy of his children.”


And let's not forget that the father is a successful grifter:
Younger has received about $130,000 in donations from his publicity campaign, Cooks said.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2019/10/24/dallas-child-custody-battle-hinges-on-7-year-olds-gender-identity-draws-attention-of-abbott-cruz/


Excellent outcome tbh.

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Postby Gravlen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:40 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Zapato wrote:Jeffrey Younger is a bad man, a horrible abusive father, and a shit human being in general. Fuck him with a rake.

Someone hasn’t read the OP

Someone has read more credible information that the biased sources in the OP.

Like the court documents. They show he is a real piece of shit, that guy.
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby True Refuge » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:41 pm

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Trotskylvania wrote:Imagine my surprise when all the claims made in the ridiculously loaded and hyperbolic OP are blown out of the water in the first page, and yet there are 35 more pages to go in the thread.


The regular Trans thread is protected by runes which prevent debate being had. This is an open-season NSG trans thread so naturally a lot of activity flows through the bottleneck.


Debate can always be had if the person with the controversial opinion makes the effort to be civil and avoid making inflammatory absolute statements that fit shitposting better than actual discussion.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:41 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Zapato wrote:Jeffrey Younger is a bad man, a horrible abusive father, and a shit human being in general. Fuck him with a rake.

Someone hasn’t read the OP


The OP that cites fucking LifeSiteNews of all things?
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:42 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:Someone hasn’t read the OP


The OP that cites fucking LifeSiteNews of all things?

I’ve never actually heard of that before, so if its a fake news site, then yeah, nvm
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:44 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
The OP that cites fucking LifeSiteNews of all things?

I’ve never actually heard of that before, so if its a fake news site, then yeah, nvm

I'll add this: The guy abused his stepdaughters so bad one started self-harming and the other made a plan to commit suicide. He is garbage.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:45 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:
The OP that cites fucking LifeSiteNews of all things?

I’ve never actually heard of that before, so if its a fake news site, then yeah, nvm

It's not necessarily fake news, but it's extremely misleading and heavily biased news.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:50 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:I’ve never actually heard of that before, so if its a fake news site, then yeah, nvm

I'll add this: The guy abused his stepdaughters so bad one started self-harming and the other made a plan to commit suicide. He is garbage.

So basically it’s a lose-lose situation? Or is the mom really not as bad as the OP claims?
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:52 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I'll add this: The guy abused his stepdaughters so bad one started self-harming and the other made a plan to commit suicide. He is garbage.

So basically it’s a lose-lose situation? Or is the mom really not as bad as the OP claims?

From what I can gather, she may have been slightly overenthusiastic but is otherwise fairly reasonable.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:52 pm

If the child was born a male, he's a boy so far as I'm concerned. I condemn this mother and rebuke her. It should be grounds for divorcing her in my opinion. In a more just and traditional society, maybe even if this were still the 1950s- a judge trying to force any kid to change sex or gender would be fired and barred from that office.

Besides which, children in general almost never know what they truly want. I really doubt that this kid really wants to transition. This path should be discouraged in the strongest possible terms from my perspective.
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Postby True Refuge » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:54 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Gravlen wrote:I'll add this: The guy abused his stepdaughters so bad one started self-harming and the other made a plan to commit suicide. He is garbage.

So basically it’s a lose-lose situation? Or is the mom really not as bad as the OP claims?


The mother is nowhere near as bad. She's a pediatrician, and the child's trans status has been supported by three different doctors.

There is also as yet no confirmed intention to begin using puberty blockers or hormone therapy yet, because everyone with medical training or at least the ability to read medical literature understands that it's far too early for either.
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Oct 24, 2019 4:54 pm

Saiwania wrote:If the child was born a male, he's a boy so far as I'm concerned. I condemn this mother and rebuke her. It should be grounds for divorcing her in my opinion. In a more just and traditional society, maybe even if this were still the 1950s- a judge trying to force any kid to change sex or gender would be fired and barred from that office.

Besides which, children in general almost never know what they truly want. I really doubt that this kid really wants to transition. This path should be discouraged in the strongest possible terms from my perspective.

I honestly expected a much stronger opinion with more misogyny and transphobia. Glad to see it's dialed down to a 6 instead of an 11.
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