#protectjamesyounger

[Juristonia]

I'm adding this thread to the pile of reasons why this forum is hot garbage. OP presents juicy reactionary outrage fuel filled with lies and unreliable sources, and a never ending stream of users just take it all at face value, with not even an ounce of curiosity to maybe fact check this, to maybe do a bit of research. Just pure ideology breeding more ideology.

I don't know if it makes you feel better or worse, but really, it's always been like that. Sometimes it gets better, but most of the time it's this bad.

The summer season does seem to be lingering a bit longer than usual this year.

[Gagium]

Ah yes, BREAKING NEWS: suicide rates on the rise due to single person being asked for proof on forum of online nation simulator.

If you're going to keep making empty snide comments, can you at least try to understand the posts you're replying to?

It's not difficult to understand that neither of you are going anywhere and that these "posts" merely consist of 'empty snide comments', as you call them.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

This was years before abuse for one.

That can't be true. The twins (the boys) were born in 2012, and the court found that the father had abused the daughters in a court case in 2016.

Oh. Perhaps I misunderstood. Sorry.

[Juristonia]

Repeating a thing doesn't make it true. Not even if you do it multiple times.
You've been asked for actual proof. Not just regurgitating the same unsubstantiated nonsense over and over again.

https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/can/defining/
Mental abuse is a thing. Telling a three year old boy that he is a girl and forcing him to go through with it (meaning kids, 2nd graders, are going to bully) is mental abuse.

You still have yet to prove that that is what happened, beyond a video made by a child abuser and known liar.

[Juristonia]

If you're going to keep making empty snide comments, can you at least try to understand the posts you're replying to?

It's not difficult to understand that neither of you are going anywhere and that these "posts" merely consist of 'empty snide comments', as you call them.

Every single post on here is meaningless. it's a dumb online forum.
Welcome to the internet. You've cracked the code.

Gold star 4 u~

[Gagium]

This was years before abuse for one.

That can't be true. The twins (the boys) were born in 2012, and the court found that the father had abused the daughters in a court case in 2016.

Unfortunate that charges were only pressed against the father.

[Liriena]

Transphobes siding with child abusers to "protect" trans children from their own identities is par de course, tbh.

"Child Abusers" Read my sig. BACA is biker's against child abuse. I think those who sexually abuse children should be executed and those who mentally or physically abuse them have the child taken out of their custody.

And yet here you are, uncritically regurgitating the gaslighting and bigotry of an abusive father.

[Gravlen]

Perhaps that video was coerced. But there isn't any solid evidence that it was. That's why this case is so difficult; as James behaves radically different when in his/her/their mom's 'sphere' versus his/her/their dad's 'sphere', and virtually all evidence has in some way been influenced in part by one of the parents, there is, to me, NO clear way forward in this case. The dad's testimony about James's identifying as male while in his presence, as well as the video, were all provided by him and could thus be tainted evidence. On the other hand, though, the mom's testimony about James identifying as female while in HER presence is tainted in a similar way - very young children often behave the way their parents want them to. To a lesser degree, what's happening at school may also not be representative of James's true feelings, as the mom clearly has more gravity over his/her/their life regularly. The mom's refusal to allow a second professional evaluation is also, from my point of view, unusual. I'm not claiming here that one or both parents are somehow abusing James to force him/her/them into a desired identity, but at this juncture I believe much of the evidence, which is >90% eyewitness testimony, is warped. Because of the tug-of-war game between the parents, we can't really see what James actually thinks, and therein lies the problem.

This. By the way, do you have some articles talking about her refusal for another evaluation?

She says she's open to it, but doesn't want conversion therapy. It has to be in line with what's best for the child.

Don't make me copy/paste more. It's a bitch when it's a non-searchable PDF.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/can/defining/
Mental abuse is a thing. Telling a three year old boy that he is a girl and forcing him to go through with it (meaning kids, 2nd graders, are going to bully) is mental abuse.

You still have yet to prove that that is what happened, beyond a video made by a child abuser and known liar.

The mother admi-did you re- you know what. If you want your kid to grow up miserable and confused go ahead.

[Gravlen]

I think you are mistaken. According to the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, surgery should not be carried out on anyone below the age of majority (18 in Texas).

In NY a 16 year old got it recently.

Show, don't tell.

[Gagium]

"Child Abusers" Read my sig. BACA is biker's against child abuse. I think those who sexually abuse children should be executed and those who mentally or physically abuse them have the child taken out of their custody.

And yet here you are, uncritically regurgitating the gaslighting and bigotry of an abusive father.

Bigotry against whom?

[Juristonia]

That can't be true. The twins (the boys) were born in 2012, and the court found that the father had abused the daughters in a court case in 2016.

Unfortunate that charges were only pressed against the father.

Considering there's no actual evidence against the mother, why is that unfortunate?

[Liriena]

It's not "common sense". It's ideology and it's empirically incorrect.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/arc ... re/580366/

Congrats for being so averse to critical thought. It's doing wonders for your understanding of the world.

And it's also ideology to let kids do whatever they want to do such as transitioning.

Except there's an actual medical, therapeutical and empirical basis for it. You are standing on quicksand.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

"Child Abusers" Read my sig. BACA is biker's against child abuse. I think those who sexually abuse children should be executed and those who mentally or physically abuse them have the child taken out of their custody.

And yet here you are, uncritically regurgitating the gaslighting and bigotry of an abusive father.

Uncritically. Are you serious.
How many times have I said he should be punished?!?!

[Vassenor]

You still have yet to prove that that is what happened, beyond a video made by a child abuser and known liar.

The mother admi-did you re- you know what. If you want your kid to grow up miserable and confused go ahead.

Says the person advocating for trans kids to have their identities forcibly repressed, ensuring that they, in your own words, grow up miserable and confused.

[Liriena]

Please read this.

It's not that the reason I think it's wrong for toddlers to change gender is that I think most kids that want to change gender will all suddenly stop that interest when they grow older, of course not. But you could repeat this study on several variables. For example, if a kid has a persistent and dedicated obsession with a certain interest, they have a higher chance of developing a high-paying job in that interest in the future. Does that mean that an 8 year old kid should get a high-paying job because they are obsessed with what that job involves? No.

Apples and oranges. Gender is not a job.

[Gravlen]

Repeating a thing doesn't make it true. Not even if you do it multiple times.
You've been asked for actual proof. Not just regurgitating the same unsubstantiated nonsense over and over again.

https://www.childwelfare.gov/topics/can/defining/
Mental abuse is a thing. Telling a three year old boy that he is a girl and forcing him to go through with it (meaning kids, 2nd graders, are going to bully) is mental abuse.

Good thing that didn't happen.

[Estanglia]

You still have yet to prove that that is what happened, beyond a video made by a child abuser and known liar.

The mother admi-did you re- you know what. If you want your kid to grow up miserable and confused go ahead.

So the mother explicitly admitted that she is forcing her child to become trans?

This is definitely needing a source.

[Juristonia]

You still have yet to prove that that is what happened, beyond a video made by a child abuser and known liar.

The mother admi-did you re- you know what. If you want your kid to grow up miserable and confused go ahead.

I know you'll just refuse to again anyway, but, again, prove it.

With actual evidence.

Backed up by something substantial beyond someone saying a thing you agree with.

[Risastorstein]

So kids should not be able to have their own identity because it upsets you?

Ah yes, kids should be allowed to change their legal name and force adults to use whatever pronoun they want. By the way, if the kids want to be another species or another race, you'd let him?

[Gagium]

Unfortunate that charges were only pressed against the father.

Considering there's no actual evidence against the mother, why is that unfortunate?

Precisely because of that! If charges were pressed, I'd be able to use the evidence from that court case to call all of you abusive parent supporters like you're doing to people supporting Mr. Younger's side.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

The mother admi-did you re- you know what. If you want your kid to grow up miserable and confused go ahead.

Says the person advocating for trans kids to have their identities forcibly repressed, ensuring that they, in your own words, grow up miserable and confused.

I give up trying to convince edgy progressives over a website that something super politically correct is wrong. If a revolution of traditionalism happens and it isnt truth against propaganda then we can talk again.

[Juristonia]

Considering there's no actual evidence against the mother, why is that unfortunate?

Precisely because of that! If charges were pressed, I'd be able to use the evidence from that court case to call all of you abusive parent supporters like you're doing to people supporting Mr. Younger's side.

Word salad.

[Vassenor]

So kids should not be able to have their own identity because it upsets you?

Ah yes, kids should be allowed to change their legal name and force adults to use whatever pronoun they want. By the way, if the kids want to be another species or another race, you'd let him?

Congratulations, we have a word for that too.

[Gagium]

The mother admi-did you re- you know what. If you want your kid to grow up miserable and confused go ahead.

Says the person advocating for trans kids to have their identities forcibly repressed, ensuring that they, in your own words, grow up miserable and confused.

Forcibly repressed? Nearly any article on the situation will tell you that what you believe is their "identity" is practically the only legal one in public!