#protectjamesyounger

[SD_Film Artists]

They probably won't get polio, but they might receive gaslighting behavior insisting that he's of a different gender.

Considering the dad abused his stepdaughters so much they considered suicide, yeah, Imma go with the mom in this case.

I meant that as a general point. I think we can all agree that the father is an irredeemable child abuser.

[Konolas]

Could someone show me sources that say that the father is a child abuser

[Washington Resistance Army]

They probably won't get polio, but they might receive gaslighting behavior insisting that he's of a different gender.

Considering the dad abused his stepdaughters so much they considered suicide, yeah, Imma go with the mom in this case.

tbh they both sound like terrible parents

[SD_Film Artists]

Could someone show me sources that say that the father is a child abuser

There are court notes/findings that the father systematicly abused his children as well as lieing to authorities. One could argue that the jury shouldn't place such trust in the mother who is clearly biased, however the father allegedly admitted to the abuse and IIRC they are the court's accepted facts rather than simply a list of claims made by the mother or her lawyer.

[Alvecia]

Could someone show me sources that say that the father is a child abuser

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[Konolas]

Could someone show me sources that say that the father is a child abuser

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Thank you

[Vassenor]

Could someone show me sources that say that the father is a child abuser

There are court notes/findings that the father systematicly abused his children as well as lieing to authorities. One could argue that the jury shouldn't place such trust in the mother who is clearly biased, however the father allegedly admitted to the abuse and IIRC they are the court's accepted facts rather than simply a list of claims made by the mother or her lawyer.

>clearly biased

How?

[Gravlen]

So we're back to "this isn't possible because I don't think it's possible".

I never said it's not possible... I just gave my reason as to why I thought it was unnatural, as asked.

Unnatural indeed. Like "curing" cancer, which is, after all, a natural process.

[SD_Film Artists]

There are court notes/findings that the father systematicly abused his children as well as lieing to authorities. One could argue that the jury shouldn't place such trust in the mother who is clearly biased, however the father allegedly admitted to the abuse and IIRC they are the court's accepted facts rather than simply a list of claims made by the mother or her lawyer.

>clearly biased

How?

Taking her husband to court, being the prosecution. It's basically her lawyer's job to be biased.

[Gravlen]

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

FDR dressed in drag as a kid and he got polio.

You want your kid to get polio? Cause he's gonna get polio if he wears a dress.

He also kicked Nazi ass... which... hey, you don't think...

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

I don't normally participate in trans threads on NSG, because I know I am incredibly ignorant on the subject, and all my responses would be based on emotions rather than reason. I try to avoid using only emotional responses.

I empathise with the judge having to make decisions in this case.

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I don't normally participate in trans threads on NSG, because I know I am incredibly ignorant on the subject, and all my responses would be based on emotions rather than reason. I try to avoid using only emotional responses.

I empathise with the judge having to make decisions in this case.

That is commendable, especially when this thread is full of people who don't mind talking shit despite their utter ignorance.

If you want to learn, there's a lot of information on the internet including discussion forums where trans people have answered cisgender people's questions, and there are many trans people who have written about their own experiences in great detail.

[Vassenor]

>clearly biased

How?

Taking her husband to court, being the prosecution. It's basically her lawyer's job to be biased.

You said the mother was biased though, not her lawyer.

[SD_Film Artists]

Taking her husband to court, being the prosecution. It's basically her lawyer's job to be biased.

You said the mother was biased though, not her lawyer.

Legally speaking, they're the same party.

[Vassenor]

You said the mother was biased though, not her lawyer.

Legally speaking, they're the same party.

So aside from "tried to stop her ex-husband from being able to abuse their kids" what evidence of bias do you have?

[Dumb Ideologies]

I don't normally participate in trans threads on NSG, because I know I am incredibly ignorant on the subject, and all my responses would be based on emotions rather than reason. I try to avoid using only emotional responses.

I empathise with the judge having to make decisions in this case.

That is commendable, especially when this thread is full of people who don't mind talking shit despite their utter ignorance.

If you want to learn, there's a lot of information on the internet including discussion forums where trans people have answered cisgender people's questions, and there are many trans people who have written about their own experiences in great detail.

This, but also bear in mind that learning as always isn't taking what people tell you as read. There's a spectrum of opinions even in the trans community and the online activists naturally tend to represent the most radical part. There are a fair number of trans people who are a bit hmm about children transitioning at five etc etc.

[LimaUniformNovemberAlpha]

I think I've heard of this. This is the one where people are freaking out because they think a seven year old kid would be given puberty blockers. Because at seven there's definitely a puberty to block.

8 year old girls have gotten pregnant. It happens.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I think I've heard of this. This is the one where people are freaking out because they think a seven year old kid would be given puberty blockers. Because at seven there's definitely a puberty to block.

8 year old girls have gotten pregnant. It happens.

It does. What I'd imagine will happen when they talk about "preparing for blockers" here is having tests every so often from the age where puberty is reasonably feasible, and then prescribing the blockers when the results indicate its started.

Wouldn't make sense to try to block something and not check whether it's started happening.

[Thermodolia]

Idk how true this is but if it’s 100% then this case is gonna be a wild ride

[Konolas]

Idk how true this is but if it’s 100% then this case is gonna be a wild ride

It’s gonna be wild just watch

[SD_Film Artists]

Legally speaking, they're the same party.

So aside from "tried to stop her ex-husband from being able to abuse their kids" what evidence of bias do you have?

First of all, I didn't say that. Also I think complete parental custody is a plausible motive. Also there's the fact that- as already mentioned- they are the prosecution; the whole point of them being the prosecution is to find a guilty verdict. If the prosecution was unbiased then they'd be no point of having a judge and jury.

[Vassenor]

So aside from "tried to stop her ex-husband from being able to abuse their kids" what evidence of bias do you have?

First of all, I didn't say that. Also I think complete parental custody is a plausible motive. Also there's the fact that- as already mentioned- they are the prosecution; the whole point of them being the prosecution is to find a guilty verdict. If the prosecution was fair then they'd be no point of having a judge and jury.

The point of the case she brought was to try and stop her ex-husband from being able to abuse their kids.

[Ithania]

Oh phew. Thank goodness for the gag order, I hope that's respected for the sake of not turning a child's life into more of a horrifying media circus. Somehow, I imagine pundits, podcasts, and YouTubers will be dining out on this to give viewers their daily dose of righteous gammon-y outrage for a long time though.

Personally, I'm horrified that the welfare of a child was so easily turned into a hysterical, frothing, and uninformed mob in the first place. I don't and won't buy "desperation" as acceptable when other options were still possible, exposing a child and their environment to this much pressure and intense drama is either knowingly or recklessly dangerous.

Isn't it routine practice to prohibit the exposure and identification of minors in this way in the US?

Above all, I just hope the little one finds happiness and fulfilment going into the future with an identity that is secure and supported.

Sadly, purely based on my cynicism, I'm kinda expecting the father to disregard the order within a fairly short window. I'd guess then he'll go for the whole "persecution" angle when there are consequences for that. I'd guess that'll bring in a lot of tasty outrage donations, won't it?

[Gravlen]

Idk how true this is but if it’s 100% then this case is gonna be a wild ride

It’s gonna be wild just watch

...what?

The verdict has been handed down, what do you expect will happen now?

[Vassenor]

It’s gonna be wild just watch

...what?

The verdict has been handed down, what do you expect will happen now?

I mean they're basing things on what the Daily Mail says, so...