#protectjamesyounger

[Drongonia]

So you're being disingenuous for the sake of fake internet points.

No, I'm just doing what you did with less words, I'm more efficient.

[Vassenor]

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

Because it triggers conservatives.

[Drongonia]

Because it triggers conservatives.

So you're transgender right? Cool for you, but it seems to have clouded your judgement when it comes to the psychological effects this kind of thing has on children.

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Because it triggers conservatives.

So you're transgender right? Cool for you, but it seems to have clouded your judgement when it comes to the psychological effects this kind of thing has on children.

Maybe your transphobia has clouded your judgement on the psychological effects suppression of gender identity has on children.

I'm cisgender but seeing so many people expressing their self-assured opinions on something they have never experienced reminds me of how people ignorantly talk about mental illness like depression. And from my experiences with that, I think I have a vague idea how it feels for trans people to be told what their deal is by cis people who never bothered to ask a trans person about any of it

[Vassenor]

Because it triggers conservatives.

So you're transgender right? Cool for you, but it seems to have clouded your judgement when it comes to the psychological effects this kind of thing has on children.

I'm not the one who is advocating for child abuse.

[Necroghastia]

Because it triggers conservatives.

So you're transgender right? Cool for you, but it seems to have clouded your judgement when it comes to the psychological effects this kind of thing has on children.

Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

Not as superficially as that, no, but the actual reality that entails. Living as a different gender and so on.

But they're living as their own gender...

Because it's degenerate and unnatural even at an adult level, but even then it's their choice. As a kid, they shouldn't be allowed to take themselves down that path or be taken down it by a screwed up parent. Kids end up wanting to kill themselves after a year on puberty blockers for god's sake, and you're saying that's alright? Disgusting.

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural? Did you even bother to read the source you cited, particularly the parts like this:

Because of flaws in how the study was set up, it is not possible to infer cause and effect or even to say whether rates of suicidal thoughts are higher or lower in this group than in children with gender dysphoria who don't take puberty blockers.

The study had no control group, of children not taking the drugs, to compare results with. In addition, the outcomes it was measuring were unclear.

Because it's full of things like that that call your conclusion into question.

[Drongonia]

Maybe your transphobia has clouded your judgement on the psychological effects suppression of gender identity has on children.

So you're trying to pull a "no u" on me. Cool bro.

[Necroghastia]

Maybe your transphobia has clouded your judgement on the psychological effects suppression of gender identity has on children.

So you're trying to pull a "no u" on me. Cool bro.

*cough*

You mean like you've ignored the effect that lack of parental support has?

I don't like the source you gave me so I will disregard it instantly.

[Drongonia]

Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural?

Only question I could find - If you think about how humans are developed in respect to our bodies and brains, do you think we were meant to be changing gender at all? Let alone at age 7?

[Vassenor]

Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural?

Only question I could find - If you think about how humans are developed in respect to our bodies and brains, do you think we were meant to be changing gender at all? Let alone at age 7?

So we're back to "this isn't possible because I don't think it's possible".

[Drongonia]

So we're back to "this isn't possible because I don't think it's possible".

I never said it's not possible... I just gave my reason as to why I thought it was unnatural, as asked.

[Konolas]

So you're trying to pull a "no u" on me. Cool bro.

*cough*

I don't like the source you gave me so I will disregard it instantly.

So what I think you’re saying is that no u is the same as saying that you disregard sources
Cool cool

[Necroghastia]

Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural?

Only question I could find - If you think about how humans are developed in respect to our bodies and brains, do you think we were meant to be changing gender at all? Let alone at age 7?

But they're living as their own gender...

Studies have shown that trans people tend to have brains more like those of their gender.
Also, there were definitely more questions.

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

Did you even bother to read the source you cited, particularly the parts like this:

Because of flaws in how the study was set up, it is not possible to infer cause and effect or even to say whether rates of suicidal thoughts are higher or lower in this group than in children with gender dysphoria who don't take puberty blockers.

The study had no control group, of children not taking the drugs, to compare results with. In addition, the outcomes it was measuring were unclear.

Because it's full of things like that that call your conclusion into question.

[Wallenburg]

Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural?

Only question I could find - If you think about how humans are developed in respect to our bodies and brains, do you think we were meant to be changing gender at all? Let alone at age 7?

I haven't seen any indication this child is "changing gender". They are simply expressing a gender other than the one assigned to them at birth. This happens quite a lot, since gender is a construct humans have clumsily built for themselves on top of our sexes and the social roles we expect various groups to fill.

[Crockerland]

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

Teddy Roosevelt wore a dress when he was little. Do you want your kid to grow up to be like Teddy Roosevelt? Case closed.

[Konolas]

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

Teddy Roosevelt wore a dress when he was little. Do you want your kid to grow up to be like Teddy Roosevelt? Case closed.

Well Teddy also finished the Panama Channel

[Necroghastia]

Teddy Roosevelt wore a dress when he was little. Do you want your kid to grow up to be like Teddy Roosevelt? Case closed.

Well Teddy also finished the Panama Channel

That's like the exact opposite of building a wall. No wonder conservatives are so against it.

[Trotskylvania]

Because forcing kids to go through the wrong puberty and forcibly denying their right to self identity totally isn't bad for their mental health at all.

Denying their right to self identity at the age of literal children is a good thing. Once they become an adult, they can be as trans as they want. I don't know how old you are but I'm beginning to suspect you're barely past the age of majority.

And no, administering puberty blockers that screw with the already very fragile mix of chemicals in a young person's brain is completely ridiculous. The British NHS even had to cover up the fact that kids who went on the puberty blocker programme wanted to kill themselves, so they could label the programme as a success.

So why didn't you link the study then?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20646177

So you're just full on advocating child abuse. Awesome.

Correlation does not imply causation. Some trans youth who were on puberty blockers having suicidal ideation does not imply any causal connection. Especially when, you know, trans youth also get heaps of abuse from people in school (I'm sure you're familiar with that type), or from family. Ya know, the kinds of things that make kids want to kill themselves.

To say nothing of all the awful things that puberty does to your body that are going to be so distressing to someone with gender dysphoria.

Because we know for a fact that gender dysphoria kills. So does the abuse that trans people receive. People who advocate for that abuse are complicit in their deaths.

[Trotskylvania]

Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural?

Only question I could find - If you think about how humans are developed in respect to our bodies and brains, do you think we were meant to be changing gender at all? Let alone at age 7?

The human sex organs are right next to the urinary tract and the rectum. It's not intelligently designed, it's the product of several hundred million years of haphazard selective pressure. Those selective pressures also result in some people overproducing the chemical transmitters for fear, and live in a constant state of anxiety. The most effective cure for hiccups is a rectal massage. Some people's gut flora get of whack, creating a biome where yeast ferment any carbohydrates they ingest into alcohol, causing them to be drunk all the time. Many people who have limbs amputated continue to experiencing pain and sensations as a sort of "phantom limb". Some people literally have the usual chirality of the body flipped, and have their hearts on the other side of their chest cavity etc., and many of them die in medical treatment because doctors don't realize this. Some people develop androgen insensitivity, and as a result, though they have XY chromosomes, their bodies will develop, sometimes completely, as female, to the point that no one can tell without a genetic test.

Those are just the crazy things about biology and neurology that I could recall off the top of my head. The body isn't a temple, it's a slapped together skeleton covered in angry meat. Biology is stupid, the least we can afford people trapped in these flesh prisons is a bare minimum of dignity when they want to be something else.

[New haven america]

Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural?

Only question I could find - If you think about how humans are developed in respect to our bodies and brains, do you think we were meant to be changing gender at all? Let alone at age 7?

Yes. The human body is a giant mess that barely works how it's supposed to half the time with a bunch of bits that shouldn't be working together being forced together. It's needs to go back to the drawing board for future updates.

For example: Do you know why so many people have back and leg problems? It's because we evolved too fast meaning that our back a legs couldn't fully adapt to constantly being in an upright position. Technically, we shouldn't be walking on 2 feet because it's detrimental to our spines.

[New haven america]

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

FDR dressed in drag as a kid and he got polio.

You want your kid to get polio? Cause he's gonna get polio if he wears a dress.

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Oi, care to answer the questions I asked?

What makes it degenerate? Unnatural? Why is something bad if it's unnatural?

Only question I could find - If you think about how humans are developed in respect to our bodies and brains, do you think we were meant to be changing gender at all? Let alone at age 7?

There is nothing we are "meant" for. Evolution isn't a godlike phenomenon of design, it a merely a series of mutations. Not all of these mutations are beneficial to survival because natural selection doesn't consistently make us better. And there are plenty of aspects of humanity that are neither particularly beneficial or detrimental. Being trans is just a thing that happens.

[SD_Film Artists]

I'm still waiting for it to be explained to me why a kid shouldn't wear a dress if they wanna wear a dress.

You want your kid to get polio? Cause he's gonna get polio if he wears a dress.

They probably won't get polio, but they might receive gaslighting behavior insisting that he's of a different gender.

[New haven america]

You want your kid to get polio? Cause he's gonna get polio if he wears a dress.

They probably won't get polio, but they might receive gaslighting behavior insisting that he's of a different gender.

Considering the dad abused his stepdaughters so much they considered suicide, yeah, Imma go with the mom in this case.

[SD_Film Artists]

Denying their right to self identity at the age of literal children is a good thing. Once they become an adult, they can be as trans as they want. I don't know how old you are but I'm beginning to suspect you're barely past the age of majority.

And no, administering puberty blockers that screw with the already very fragile mix of chemicals in a young person's brain is completely ridiculous. The British NHS even had to cover up the fact that kids who went on the puberty blocker programme wanted to kill themselves, so they could label the programme as a success.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20646177

Correlation does not imply causation.

That's true, however you'd expect that a responsible clinic would inform parents of the fact that they cannot confirm or deny any medium-long term effects. They did not do this. They instead claimed that the puberty blockers were safe and reversible.