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Postby USS Monitor » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:12 pm

I think the best thing is to put off any irreversible medical procedures until the kid is older and have a neutral party like a social worker or school counselor check in periodically to make sure they're not being forced one way or the other.

In the meantime, if they wear girl's clothes and call themselves "Luna," that's whatever. It sounds like that's something the kid is OK with right now.
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Postby Tabor Horeb » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:12 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Tabor Horeb wrote:Okay I'll bite - what did the father do? IF he did abuse his son that's bad, but very little comes close to making your son a chemical castrato, which the mother intends.


OK, leaving aside the fact you plainly have no idea what you are talking about any more, the abuses he's committed have already been documented in this thread.

Vassenor wrote:
1) Petitioner and Respondent were married on December 5,2010.
2) Respondent induced Petitioner into marriage by fraud.
3) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about former marriages.
4) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about former relationships.
5) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his education.
6) During the marriage. Respondent mislead Petitioner about being a Professor by having mail sent to him as "Professor Younger."
7) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about being a teacher at the University of North Texas.
8 ) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his service in the Marines.
9) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his military experience in the Army.
10) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about his prior income and earnings.
11) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about his sources of income.
12) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his debt
13) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner in failing to disclose extensive
student loans.
14) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about working for Fortune 500 companies.
15) Before the marriage, Respondent lied about his employment
16) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his unemployment.
17) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about not taking unemployment compensation.
18) Respondent lied to Petitioner about taking government assistance.
19) Petitioner did not cohabitate with Respondent since learning of the fraud and lies listed above in No. 3 through 18.


Children
39) Respondent engaged in inappropriate and hurtful treatment of the Girls.
40) The Girls were good, sweet, hardworking well-mannered children.
41) Respondent forced the Girls to do plank push up for extended periods of time while reaing the "house rules" until the Girls cried.
42) Respondent would lock down the Girls* room and remove all their possession from their rooms and would not let them participate in family activities.
43) Respondent would put the Girls in "silent treatment" and they could not talk unless spoken to for many, many days.
44) Respondent's actions caused barm to the Girls.
45) One of the Girls developed a suicide plan
46) The other Girl was cutting herself.

47) Based in large part on his treatment of the Girls, Petitioner asked Respondent to move
out of the Petitioner's residence.
48) Both Girls improved after Respondent moved out of Petitioner's residence.
49) Respondent lied to the Petitioner about the Girls.
50) The Girls have a very good, safe and healthy relationship with the Boys.
51) Respondent failed to co-parent with the Petitioner.
52) Petitioner made repeated attempts to co-parent with Respondent.
53) Respondent failed to keep any agreements made with Petitioner during Parenting

Facilitation sessions.
54) Respondent treated the Petitioner and the Girls in a disparaging, derogatory, abusive and insulting manner.
55) Respondent is pejorative.
56) Petitioner works flexible hours and part-time on some days of the week.
57) Petitioner was the primary parent of the Qiildren even before the parties separated.
58) Respondent regularly failed to take possession time with the Boys granted to him in Temporary Orders in this matter.
59) Respondent regularly failed to take the Boys to school during his periods of possession.
60) Respondent regularly failed to allow the Petitioner electronic communication with the Boys.
61) Respondent lacked insight into how behaviors by him may be repeated with the Boys.
62) Respondent had 3 mattresses in one room on the floor for his bed and the Boy's beds.
63) Respondent admitted he had not slept in a bed for the 12 years before marrying
Petitioner.
64) Respondent admitted he could not recall the addresses of where he lived or who he lived with for the 10 years before meeting Petitioner.
65) Respondent failed to attend counseling as ordered by the Court.
66) The Respondent will say or do anything to get his way.


Other
99) Respondent lied and misrepresented facts to his employers and potential employers during the pendency of this matter.
100) During the marriage, the Respondent failed to seek employment.
101) After separation, Respondent lied about his role as a primary parent.
102) Respondent was not a stay-at-home dad as he alleged.
103) The Respondent made false allegations about the Girls potentially abusing the Boys.
104) The Respondent falsely asserted that the counselor (Gina Galloway) called CPS.
105) Gina Galloway (the counselor) denied notifying CPS about alleged abuse of the Boys by the Girls.
106) The Respondent does not have any college degrees, which is contrary to his representations.
107) The Respondent was never a Professor, which is contrary to his representations..
108) The Respondent was not a Professor at UNT, which is contrary to his representations.
109) The Respondent was discharged from the Army for "Admission of Homosexuality."
110) The Respondent denies being a homosexual at the time of discharge from the Army.
111) The Respondent lied to the Army about being a homosexual.
112) The Respondent admitted he had a difficult time finding a job that will accommodate
his child care schedule.
113) The Respondent's psychological profile suggests an opposition to authority figures and
lack of constraint.
114) The Respondent's psychological profile indicated interpersonal difficulties, difficulty with authority and convention, and that he externalizes blame for his problems onto
others.
115) The Respondent's psychological profile indicated he lacks insight into how his actions negatively affected the Girls, stating, "So I made them do push-ups... whoop-difreaking-do!"
116) Dr. Blake Mitchell was ordered to conduct a psychological exam of the parties.
117) After conducting a psychological exam and testing. Dr. Mitchell found Respondent's lack of insight into how his behaviors affect others raises a concern that he may repeat these behaviors with James and Jude (the Boys).
118) Based on his work on this matter. Dr. Mitchell found Respondent demonstrated a lack of willingness to effectively co-parent with Petitioner.
119) Based on his work on this matter. Dr. Mitchell found the Respondent's reluctance to co-parent with Petitioner could potential have negative outcomes for the Boys and interfere with making decisions that are in the best interest of the Boys.
120) Based on his work on this matter. Dr. Mitchell found Petitioner put forth significant effort to effectively co-parent with Respondent.
121) The collaterals presented by Petitioner described her and her parenting style in positive
terms.
122) Petitioner would not have married Respondent had she known about his fraud and misrepresentations.


So you support all of this, particularly the bolded?

No I don't.


Vassenor wrote:
Tabor Horeb wrote:Wrong.


No, it's very much correct that you've wildly misinterpreted this situation.

The human body was not meant to be denied puberty. The mother intends to turn her son into a chemical castrato.
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Postby Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:12 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Tabor Horeb wrote:Okay I'll bite - what did the father do? IF he did abuse his son that's bad, but very little comes close to making your son a chemical castrato, which the mother intends.


OK, leaving aside the fact you plainly have no idea what you are talking about any more, the abuses he's committed have already been documented in this thread.

Vassenor wrote:
1) Petitioner and Respondent were married on December 5,2010.
2) Respondent induced Petitioner into marriage by fraud.
3) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about former marriages.
4) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about former relationships.
5) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his education.
6) During the marriage. Respondent mislead Petitioner about being a Professor by having mail sent to him as "Professor Younger."
7) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about being a teacher at the University of North Texas.
8 ) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his service in the Marines.
9) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his military experience in the Army.
10) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about his prior income and earnings.
11) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about his sources of income.
12) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his debt
13) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner in failing to disclose extensive
student loans.
14) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about working for Fortune 500 companies.
15) Before the marriage, Respondent lied about his employment
16) Before the marriage. Respondent lied to Petitioner about his unemployment.
17) Before the marriage, Respondent lied to Petitioner about not taking unemployment compensation.
18) Respondent lied to Petitioner about taking government assistance.
19) Petitioner did not cohabitate with Respondent since learning of the fraud and lies listed above in No. 3 through 18.


Children
39) Respondent engaged in inappropriate and hurtful treatment of the Girls.
40) The Girls were good, sweet, hardworking well-mannered children.
41) Respondent forced the Girls to do plank push up for extended periods of time while reaing the "house rules" until the Girls cried.
42) Respondent would lock down the Girls* room and remove all their possession from their rooms and would not let them participate in family activities.
43) Respondent would put the Girls in "silent treatment" and they could not talk unless spoken to for many, many days.
44) Respondent's actions caused barm to the Girls.
45) One of the Girls developed a suicide plan
46) The other Girl was cutting herself.

47) Based in large part on his treatment of the Girls, Petitioner asked Respondent to move
out of the Petitioner's residence.
48) Both Girls improved after Respondent moved out of Petitioner's residence.
49) Respondent lied to the Petitioner about the Girls.
50) The Girls have a very good, safe and healthy relationship with the Boys.
51) Respondent failed to co-parent with the Petitioner.
52) Petitioner made repeated attempts to co-parent with Respondent.
53) Respondent failed to keep any agreements made with Petitioner during Parenting

Facilitation sessions.
54) Respondent treated the Petitioner and the Girls in a disparaging, derogatory, abusive and insulting manner.
55) Respondent is pejorative.
56) Petitioner works flexible hours and part-time on some days of the week.
57) Petitioner was the primary parent of the Qiildren even before the parties separated.
58) Respondent regularly failed to take possession time with the Boys granted to him in Temporary Orders in this matter.
59) Respondent regularly failed to take the Boys to school during his periods of possession.
60) Respondent regularly failed to allow the Petitioner electronic communication with the Boys.
61) Respondent lacked insight into how behaviors by him may be repeated with the Boys.
62) Respondent had 3 mattresses in one room on the floor for his bed and the Boy's beds.
63) Respondent admitted he had not slept in a bed for the 12 years before marrying
Petitioner.
64) Respondent admitted he could not recall the addresses of where he lived or who he lived with for the 10 years before meeting Petitioner.
65) Respondent failed to attend counseling as ordered by the Court.
66) The Respondent will say or do anything to get his way.


Other
99) Respondent lied and misrepresented facts to his employers and potential employers during the pendency of this matter.
100) During the marriage, the Respondent failed to seek employment.
101) After separation, Respondent lied about his role as a primary parent.
102) Respondent was not a stay-at-home dad as he alleged.
103) The Respondent made false allegations about the Girls potentially abusing the Boys.
104) The Respondent falsely asserted that the counselor (Gina Galloway) called CPS.
105) Gina Galloway (the counselor) denied notifying CPS about alleged abuse of the Boys by the Girls.
106) The Respondent does not have any college degrees, which is contrary to his representations.
107) The Respondent was never a Professor, which is contrary to his representations..
108) The Respondent was not a Professor at UNT, which is contrary to his representations.
109) The Respondent was discharged from the Army for "Admission of Homosexuality."
110) The Respondent denies being a homosexual at the time of discharge from the Army.
111) The Respondent lied to the Army about being a homosexual.
112) The Respondent admitted he had a difficult time finding a job that will accommodate
his child care schedule.
113) The Respondent's psychological profile suggests an opposition to authority figures and
lack of constraint.
114) The Respondent's psychological profile indicated interpersonal difficulties, difficulty with authority and convention, and that he externalizes blame for his problems onto
others.
115) The Respondent's psychological profile indicated he lacks insight into how his actions negatively affected the Girls, stating, "So I made them do push-ups... whoop-difreaking-do!"
116) Dr. Blake Mitchell was ordered to conduct a psychological exam of the parties.
117) After conducting a psychological exam and testing. Dr. Mitchell found Respondent's lack of insight into how his behaviors affect others raises a concern that he may repeat these behaviors with James and Jude (the Boys).
118) Based on his work on this matter. Dr. Mitchell found Respondent demonstrated a lack of willingness to effectively co-parent with Petitioner.
119) Based on his work on this matter. Dr. Mitchell found the Respondent's reluctance to co-parent with Petitioner could potential have negative outcomes for the Boys and interfere with making decisions that are in the best interest of the Boys.
120) Based on his work on this matter. Dr. Mitchell found Petitioner put forth significant effort to effectively co-parent with Respondent.
121) The collaterals presented by Petitioner described her and her parenting style in positive
terms.
122) Petitioner would not have married Respondent had she known about his fraud and misrepresentations.


So you support all of this, particularly the bolded?

Woah woah woah. The seven year old was cutting or did I misunderstand??
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Postby Estanglia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:12 pm

Tabor Horeb wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
Oh look, another misrepresentation of the situation!

Wrong.


So convincing.

I'm totally convinced that you're not misrepresenting the situation. Not.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:13 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:That tiny iceberg that Risastorstein is standing on is melting more and more by the minute.


The fact that a 5yo is transgender and has gender dysphoria is the most ridiculous I heard in a while.

So far the shite you have thrown out as far as objections go has been shown to be wrong.
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Postby Risastorstein » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:13 pm

Vassenor wrote:Uh-huh.


If I told you the world is on a giganormous turtle, wouldn't you be doubting?

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Postby Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:14 pm

Estanglia wrote:
Tabor Horeb wrote:Wrong.


So convincing.

I'm totally convinced that you're not misrepresenting the situation. Not.

I mean. Putting foreign chemicals into a childs body is exactly what he said, and the mother said herself that it is planned soooo
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Postby Marxist Germany » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:14 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:Let's rephrase that into its true form which is "trust me daughter, you are a girl and I know whats best for you now listen to whatever this "therapist" says."

Ah, so you're just going to straight up lie. Cool.

You seem to have completely glossed over this.
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Postby Estanglia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:14 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
So I guess you have some evidence that this is what is actually happening.

Citations, please.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/video-james-younger-at-age-3-to-dad-mommy-tells-me-im-a-girl/


>Daily Wire
>Taken by the father, a totally neutral party in this situation with totally no motive to manipulate the story or anything

Try again?
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:14 pm

Risastorstein wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Uh-huh.


If I told you the world is on a giganormous turtle, wouldn't you be doubting?


So your response is literally to jump right to Russel's Teapot? That's weak and you know it.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:14 pm

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Liriena wrote:Unless you can put actual evidence behind your petty, cynical innuendo here, I see no reason to take your defamatory bullshit seriously. So either present proof or sit down.


Honestly the behaviour of their defenders is sufficient evidence. Yours included.

Nice pivot, liar.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:15 pm

USS Monitor wrote:I think the best thing is to put off any irreversible medical procedures until the kid is older and have a neutral party like a social worker or school counselor check in periodically to make sure they're not being forced one way or the other.

In the meantime, if they wear girl's clothes and call themselves "Luna," that's whatever. It sounds like that's something the kid is OK with right now.


Which is pretty much what the mother was advocating for. But sadly that's been buried under all the people insisting she's abusive because kids are too stupid to know anything about themselves.
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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:15 pm

I might sound old-fashioned here, but I believe that no one under the age of consent should be allowed to transition into the opposite sex as I believe that if they cannot consent to sexual acts they certainly cannot consent to/be forced into irreversible life-changing surgery.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:15 pm

Tabor Horeb wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And what about the abuse on the part of the father?

Okay I'll bite - what did the father do?

He abused their daughters so badly one started cutting herself (self-harm) and the other planned suicide.

Tabor Horeb wrote:IF he did abuse his son that's bad, but very little comes close to making your son a chemical castrato, which the mother intends.

Nope.

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>Daily Wire
>Taken by the father, a totally neutral party in this situation with totally no motive to manipulate the story or anything

Try again?

All evidence so far is hearsay so I find nothing wrong with this. And I trust the DailyWire more than whatever CNN or BBC bs you watch.
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Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
So convincing.

I'm totally convinced that you're not misrepresenting the situation. Not.

I mean. Putting foreign chemicals into a childs body is exactly what he said, and the mother said herself that it is planned soooo


So you're against giving any sort of medication to children then? Since that's also "putting foreign chemicals into a child's body".
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Postby Liriena » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:16 pm

USS Monitor wrote:I think the best thing is to put off any irreversible medical procedures until the kid is older and have a neutral party like a social worker or school counselor check in periodically to make sure they're not being forced one way or the other.

In the meantime, if they wear girl's clothes and call themselves "Luna," that's whatever. It sounds like that's something the kid is OK with right now.

What you described is precisely how trans children usually transition, as established by professional guidelines: no irreversible medical procedures, just social transition.

Transphobes are making defamatory shit up, as usual, because that's all their ideology is good for.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:16 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
>Daily Wire
>Taken by the father, a totally neutral party in this situation with totally no motive to manipulate the story or anything

Try again?

All evidence so far is hearsay so I find nothing wrong with this. And I trust the DailyWire more than whatever CNN or BBC bs you watch.

Have you tried the actual court proceding that Gravlen keeps providing?

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Agarntrop wrote:I might sound old-fashioned here, but I believe that no one under the age of consent should be allowed to transition into the opposite sex as I believe that if they cannot consent to sexual acts they certainly cannot consent to/be forced into irreversible life-changing surgery.


No-one has advocated surgery for minors.
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Estanglia
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Postby Estanglia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
So convincing.

I'm totally convinced that you're not misrepresenting the situation. Not.

I mean. Putting foreign chemicals into a childs body is exactly what he said, and the mother said herself that it is planned soooo


Source.
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Postby Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:17 pm

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Wallenburg wrote:Ah, so you're just going to straight up lie. Cool.

You seem to have completely glossed over this.

Holy hell shit I did not see that wtf is wrong with that woman. She is like a radical feminist on crack. "Monsters only eat boys" what the actual fuck???
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Risastorstein
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Postby Risastorstein » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Agarntrop wrote:I might sound old-fashioned here, but I believe that no one under the age of consent should be allowed to transition into the opposite sex as I believe that if they cannot consent to sexual acts they certainly cannot consent to/be forced into irreversible life-changing surgery.


You are a truscum! /s

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Postby Agarntrop » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
>Daily Wire
>Taken by the father, a totally neutral party in this situation with totally no motive to manipulate the story or anything

Try again?

All evidence so far is hearsay so I find nothing wrong with this. And I trust the DailyWire more than whatever CNN or BBC bs you watch.

BBC isn't even left-wing...
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
>Daily Wire
>Taken by the father, a totally neutral party in this situation with totally no motive to manipulate the story or anything

Try again?

All evidence so far is hearsay so I find nothing wrong with this. And I trust the DailyWire more than whatever CNN or BBC bs you watch.

Wrong. Totally wrong. Look at the evidence that Gravlen has been posting.
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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Oct 24, 2019 1:17 pm

Marxist Germany wrote:
Estanglia wrote:
>Daily Wire
>Taken by the father, a totally neutral party in this situation with totally no motive to manipulate the story or anything

Try again?

All evidence so far is hearsay so I find nothing wrong with this. And I trust the DailyWire more than whatever CNN or BBC bs you watch.

Yes, Ben Shapiro's blog is way more trustworthy than an actual news organization.
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