#protectjamesyounger

[Risastorstein]

He asked questions, James responded.

From the testimony of the CPS investigator (p. 94 - 95):


p. 96


p. 98


From the testimony of the councellor for the child, questioned in court (page 118):



The child is afraid of the father, but repeatedly says it's their own choice to dress as a girl.

Are there questions and answers about who created the name Luna? Are there questions about why the mother sought a professional in the first place? At which age James allegedly showed discomfort with being a boy?

[Estanglia]

Ah, finally, a source for one of your oddly personal details.

Now, how about the other ones?

About crying "The website alleges that Georgulas “FORCES JAMES TO COME OUT AS A GIRL. At James’s fifth birthday party, an event full of people from church, Ms. Georgulas forced the boy to wear a dress. Witnesses tell Mr. Younger that his son hid in a corner and cried.”"

https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/james-younger/

I have a hard time believing a 3 or 5 year old would be transgender.

I don't believe this quoted bit answers any of my points.

For a reminder, they are:

-This issue being just Luna liking girl's stuff.
-This is just a game of cosplay and playing pretend.
-The kid not wanting either therapy or social transition.

[Wallenburg]

Ah, finally, a source for one of your oddly personal details.

Now, how about the other ones?

About crying "The website alleges that Georgulas “FORCES JAMES TO COME OUT AS A GIRL. At James’s fifth birthday party, an event full of people from church, Ms. Georgulas forced the boy to wear a dress. Witnesses tell Mr. Younger that his son hid in a corner and cried.”"

https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/james-younger/

I have a hard time believing a 3 or 5 year old would be transgender.

1) The father's website to support his abusive behavior lies. What a surprise.
2) The kid is 7, not "a 3 or 5 year old". Transphobes love to do this. They take a story, say, about a 10 year old put on hormone blockers and decry how 8 year olds are forced to go against their biology and it's just awful how 7 year olds are given the wrong hormones and how could you possibly support chopping 5 year old penises off?

[Risastorstein]

I don't believe this quoted bit answers any of my points.

For a reminder, they are:

-This issue being just Luna liking girl's stuff.
-This is just a game of cosplay and playing pretend.
-The kid not wanting either therapy or social transition.

James liked girly things and imitating Disney princesses (cosplay) which led his mother to seek professional help. He wasn't the one asking for that but his mother.

[Risastorstein]

1) The father's website to support his abusive behavior lies. What a surprise.
2) The kid is 7, not "a 3 or 5 year old". Transphobes love to do this. They take a story, say, about a 10 year old put on hormone blockers and decry how 8 year olds are forced to go against their biology and it's just awful how 7 year olds are given the wrong hormones and how could you possibly support chopping 5 year old penises off?

The 5 year old bit is about when he started "exhibiting a transgender identity/behavior". If someone has more info, I'm open to it.

[Cekoviu]

I don't think that's what's happening here. It's been a while since I consulted this case in detail, but I believe there was real evidence of gender dysphoria. What makes you think it is?

I meant generally, but if you mean this case specifically then I would be curious to know how the child came to that conclusion.

Then I don't see why this is relevant here. Seems like it's intended to mislead.

[Estanglia]

I don't believe this quoted bit answers any of my points.

For a reminder, they are:

-This issue being just Luna liking girl's stuff.
-This is just a game of cosplay and playing pretend.
-The kid not wanting either therapy or social transition.

James liked girly things and imitating Disney princesses (cosplay) which led his mother to seek professional help. He wasn't the one asking for that but his mother.

You've only addressed the first one there.

'This' in point 2 refers to the continued identification as a girl.
And not asking for it =/= not wanting it.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

Should children be able to have animal tails and ears surgically attached to them just because they like to pretend like animals?
Well of course they should.

[Estanglia]

Should children be able to have animal tails and ears surgically attached to them just because they like to pretend like animals?
Well of course they should.

You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

Should children be able to have animal tails and ears surgically attached to them just because they like to pretend like animals?
Well of course they should.

You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

It is planned.

[Estanglia]

You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

It is planned.

For when?

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

It is planned.

For when?

September 40th.
Wdym when.
You are going to die. It is planned. When? Eventually.

[Ifreann]

Kids shouldn't be allowed to have puberty blockers and transition should be reserved for adults. How is this even a debate?

The fuck do you think would be the point of giving puberty blockers to adults?

Like, do you even know what puberty is?

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Do you really think that if you had told your father, when you were 7, that you're really a girl, and he had accepted that and supported you in living as a girl, that you would still be living as a girl?

Because...uh...maybe you need to log off NSG and have a big think about what that tells you about your gender identity.


Referring to someone as "it" when that is not their preferred pronoun is still misgendering them. But so far as I recall the rule applies to other members of the forum.

Well he isnt in this forum so I guess its fine then. Also, yes. If my father was saying that it was perfectly fine and dandy to be a girl then yes, I probably would be one.

Like I said, maybe you need to have a big think about your gender identity. If the slightest bit of support and approval is all that stands between you and living as a girl, then

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She also likes Led Zeppelin and wants to work as a regional manager for Walmart when she grows up too. Your turn to make up facts about her out of thin air again.

"Georgulas said that James first wanted a girls’ toy from McDonald’s and soon after started imitating the female characters from Disney’s Frozen and asking to wear dresses.

She said she contacted the GENecis clinic at Children’s Hospital Center, and they referred her to Rebekka Ouer for counseling. Ouer recommended a process of “affirmation” and thought that a “social transition” for James to begin going to school dressed as a girl named “Luna” would be in his best interest."

That is so wrong and as most things in the trans movement, heteronormative.

Oh no, she consulted with experts to help determine the best course of action for her child. That...terrible parent?

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He asked questions, James responded.

From the testimony of the CPS investigator (p. 94 - 95):

p. 96


p. 98


From the testimony of the councellor for the child, questioned in court (page 118):

The child is afraid of the father, but repeatedly says it's their own choice to dress as a girl.

Radical pro-trans Texan CPS. *nods*

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You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

It is planned.

If it happens it'll be when Luna is over 18.

[Wallenburg]

You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

It is planned.

It isn't.

[Risastorstein]

Should children be able to have animal tails and ears surgically attached to them just because they like to pretend like animals?
Well of course they should.

But the solution to a 7 yo liking dresses is obviously social transition.

You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

That's the next logical step.

[The New California Republic]

You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

It is planned.

No it isn't, stop talking shite.

[Estanglia]

For when?

September 40th.
Wdym when.
You are going to die. It is planned. When? Eventually.

If it is planned for after her 18th birthday, she's an adult and legally in a position to do so.

Thus, your comparison is less "let's force a kid to have cat ears because they wanted them!" to "let an adult have their body surgically altered to have cat ears."

Also, my death, if it is from something other than an intentional, planned murder, is not planned.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

Kids shouldn't be allowed to have puberty blockers and transition should be reserved for adults. How is this even a debate?

The fuck do you think would be the point of giving puberty blockers to adults?

Like, do you even know what puberty is?

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Well he isnt in this forum so I guess its fine then. Also, yes. If my father was saying that it was perfectly fine and dandy to be a girl then yes, I probably would be one.

Like I said, maybe you need to have a big think about your gender identity. If the slightest bit of support and approval is all that stands between you and living as a girl, then

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"Georgulas said that James first wanted a girls’ toy from McDonald’s and soon after started imitating the female characters from Disney’s Frozen and asking to wear dresses.

She said she contacted the GENecis clinic at Children’s Hospital Center, and they referred her to Rebekka Ouer for counseling. Ouer recommended a process of “affirmation” and thought that a “social transition” for James to begin going to school dressed as a girl named “Luna” would be in his best interest."

That is so wrong and as most things in the trans movement, heteronormative.

Oh no, she consulted with experts to help determine the best course of action for her child. That...terrible parent?

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From the testimony of the CPS investigator (p. 94 - 95):

p. 96


p. 98


From the testimony of the councellor for the child, questioned in court (page 118):

The child is afraid of the father, but repeatedly says it's their own choice to dress as a girl.

Radical pro-trans Texan CPS. *nods*
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It is planned.

If it happens it'll be when Luna is over 18.

Actually, if I am not mistaken, it does not have to be over 18.

[Risastorstein]

Kids shouldn't be allowed to have puberty blockers and transition should be reserved for adults. How is this even a debate?

The fuck do you think would be the point of giving puberty blockers to adults?

Like, do you even know what puberty is?

Nobody should have puberty blockers. Why pushing the idea that his body needs to be artificially modified for him to be happy? Doesn't sound very body positive.

And what about the social transition pushed by a LGBT activist "counselor" for a freaking 7 year old. From what I've read, she's the one pushing for calling him Luna in the first place and "him being treated like a girl".

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

It is planned.

It isn't.

Oh right sorry. Surgery is not planned.
Hormones are planned. Right yes. My bad. Lets just fuck over his brain with estrogen and use puberty blockers when he is 12 just so he can keep playing make believe.

[Estanglia]

It isn't.

Oh right sorry. Surgery is not planned.
Hormones are planned. Right yes. My bad. Lets just fuck over his brain with estrogen and use puberty blockers when he is 12 just so he can keep playing make believe.

Again, when?

[Wallenburg]

Should children be able to have animal tails and ears surgically attached to them just because they like to pretend like animals?
Well of course they should.

But the solution to a 7 yo liking dresses is obviously social transition.

I mean, when the kid strongly indicates they are a girl, trying regularly living as a girl in public is a rather reasonable method of determining whether this is the best option for the child.

You say this like surgery is occurring in this case.

That's the next logical step.

It isn't. Please read up on how transition actually works.

[Wallenburg]

It isn't.

Oh right sorry. Surgery is not planned.
Hormones are planned. Right yes. My bad. Lets just fuck over his brain with estrogen and use puberty blockers when he is 12 just so he can keep playing make believe.

That you don't understand the difference between hormone blockers and hormones says everything.

[Marxist Germany]

Kids shouldn't be allowed to have puberty blockers and transition should be reserved for adults. How is this even a debate?

The fuck do you think would be the point of giving puberty blockers to adults?

Like, do you even know what puberty is?
Puberty should solve most gender dysphoria problems, the mother is forcing James into a miserable life.

[Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth]

Oh right sorry. Surgery is not planned.
Hormones are planned. Right yes. My bad. Lets just fuck over his brain with estrogen and use puberty blockers when he is 12 just so he can keep playing make believe.

That you don't understand the difference between hormone blockers and hormones says everything.

There is a difference. But if I am not mistaken estrogen and puberty blockers are both planned for puberty. That is almost a direct quote from the mother.