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by Ifreann » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:58 am
by Thermodolia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 10:59 am
by Risastorstein » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:01 am
by Thermodolia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:01 am
Page wrote:Thermodolia wrote:I’m not advocating for conversation therapy. Last time I checked there’s a difference between actual therapy and bullshit
If the goal is to affirm one's identity and self-esteem and help them cope with the stress of the gender dysphoria, and does not try to make one believe they are cisgender, then that is good,
but for many trans people it is not enough. Physical transitions save lives. It's not a requirement for every trans person but it should not be thought of as a last resort.
by Thermodolia » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:03 am
by Vassenor » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:06 am
Risastorstein wrote:This sounds like David Reimer 2.0, not gonna lie.
by The New California Republic » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:07 am
Risastorstein wrote:This sounds like David Reimer 2.0, not gonna lie.
by Bear Stearns » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:07 am
by Vassenor » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:08 am
by Risastorstein » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:10 am
by Bear Stearns » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:10 am
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:10 am
Ifreann wrote:Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Not if I was told that it is perfectly normal to be gender dysphoric, or that it was supported.
Do you really think that if you had told your father, when you were 7, that you're really a girl, and he had accepted that and supported you in living as a girl, that you would still be living as a girl?
Because...uh...maybe you need to log off NSG and have a big think about what that tells you about your gender identity.Okay, I can call him an "it" though. So I will call it an it then.
Referring to someone as "it" when that is not their preferred pronoun is still misgendering them. But so far as I recall the rule applies to other members of the forum.
by Bear Stearns » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:11 am
by Vassenor » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:12 am
Risastorstein wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Yeah not really.
A boy forced into being a girl to prove a shady theory or therapy?
The signs behind this case is how James liked girl toys and Frozen. That doesn't make him a girl and even if he was transgender, I thought gender was different than sex and biology, so why change his body?
It doesn't make any sense.
by The New California Republic » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:12 am
by Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:12 am
Ifreann wrote:Risastorstein wrote:
You mean telling the little dude to dress appropriately and to use his real name? Then yes.
"In a video posted to the dad’s website, James is asked, “You’re a boy right?”
“No, I’m a girl.”
“Who told you you’re a girl?”
“Mommy.”
The child said Anne also put James in dresses. “She buys me headbands. She gets me hair clips…she paints my nails.”"
Messing with her boy's gender in order to satisfy her own desire for some kind of living doll is abuse too.
Sounds more like Younger manipulating his daughter to suit his own transphobic agenda.
by Risastorstein » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:13 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Well he isnt in this forum so I guess its fine then. Also, yes. If my father was saying that it was perfectly fine and dandy to be a girl then yes, I probably would be one.
by Cekoviu » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:14 am
Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Ifreann wrote:Do you really think that if you had told your father, when you were 7, that you're really a girl, and he had accepted that and supported you in living as a girl, that you would still be living as a girl?
Because...uh...maybe you need to log off NSG and have a big think about what that tells you about your gender identity.
Referring to someone as "it" when that is not their preferred pronoun is still misgendering them. But so far as I recall the rule applies to other members of the forum.
Well he isnt in this forum so I guess its fine then. Also, yes. If my father was saying that it was perfectly fine and dandy to be a girl then yes, I probably would be one.
by Page » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:14 am
by Risastorstein » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:15 am
The New California Republic wrote:That wasn't the case with David Reimer, and it isn't the case here.
by Page » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:15 am
Risastorstein wrote:Israeli Empiratic Commonwealth wrote:Well he isnt in this forum so I guess its fine then. Also, yes. If my father was saying that it was perfectly fine and dandy to be a girl then yes, I probably would be one.
The mother is also hyper-medicalizing it, conforting and influencing James. I don't need to give all the examples of mothers saying their kid was ill making them subject to unnecessary and dangerous medical procedures.
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