When did you change your mind? (and why?)

[Thermodolia]

Gay marriage =/= trans issues. There’s a lot of people who are pro-LGB but not T. As I’ve heard before from some people in the LGB community, “Pro-LGB and fuck the T”.

So really gay marriage has nothing to do with any of this.

It's almost assumed that we are some kind of hive mind or something.

It’s most likely something. I have a feeling that they where never really pro-gay marriage in the first place but the current crap is giving them a nice out

[Happsborough]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

[Telconi]

Gay marriage =/= trans issues. There’s a lot of people who are pro-LGB but not T. As I’ve heard before from some people in the LGB community, “Pro-LGB and fuck the T”.

So really gay marriage has nothing to do with any of this.

It's almost assumed that we are some kind of hive mind or something.

That's a pretty common, and in some ways functionally correct, idea.

[Mbelemilele]

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[Xuloqoia]

Gay marriage =/= trans issues. There’s a lot of people who are pro-LGB but not T. As I’ve heard before from some people in the LGB community, “Pro-LGB and fuck the T”.

So really gay marriage has nothing to do with any of this.

It's almost assumed that we are some kind of hive mind or something.

Oh, it's not just you. Everyone but me is part of a hive mind. Everyone else is, for all intents and purposes, a P-zombie, and I am the only true and honest person in existence.

/sarcasm, for goodness sake; I'm not actually a solipsist

[Cekoviu]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

So you responded to people being gullible by being gullible...

[Thermodolia]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

SJWs aren’t leftists. They are neo-Liberals attempting to hid their racism and other hateful shit and failing

[The United Provinces of North America]

Social cons have been going at it since before the abolition of slavery.

When the Republicans were the radicals.

Republicans where Anti-slavery. When Democrats promoted lynching and slavery!

[Major-Tom]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

"Yeah, I mean, the left was cool but like a few of them were into a few weird social issues that don't directly impact my life in any tangible way, so y'know, let's settle for some charlatans."

[The United Provinces of North America]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

SJWs aren’t leftists. They are neo-Liberals attempting to hid their racism and other hateful shit and failing

Hence Far-Left.

[The United Provinces of North America]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

So you responded to people being gullible by being gullible...

Ok buddy I bet you're one of those Far Left aka SJW's who want to legalize pedophilia, have you heard of the eleven year old boy who was stripping in a gay bar? His parents forced him too! Children should not be thinking of sexuality at that age, but being curious or asking parents about sex, not a five year old. You're in sick in the head if you deny such claims or it's ok. No it's not, you see why the moderate left is going to vote for Trump. This trans shit is hurting the children of the future.

[Arthenius]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

SJWs aren’t leftists. They are neo-Liberals attempting to hid their racism and other hateful shit and failing

There is much overlap between the two though.

[Drongonia]

I used to be very leftist and anti-Trump but slowly as I began to get "redpilled" so to speak by right wing or centrist YouTubers who convinced me thoroughly of the ills of socialism/communism, and the Left itself with its rampant SJW culture and absurdist political movements (and their extreme gullibility and susceptibility to trolling efforts by sites like 4chan) really turned me off to Leftist politics and got me into actual politics as a whole.

The Steven Crowders and Ben Shapiros of this world are nothing more than lightweight neo-cons. It's sad, really.

I would recommend you watch some of John Stossel's videos. He's an ex-ABC and ex-FOX journalist who comes out with some great stuff, not all of it is pro-Trump or pro-Republican (which is good) but it seems to be all pretty common sense stuff.

[Nakena]

For me theres a huge difference between practical policies and ideological worldviews. In terms of practical policies I can easily align on many practical issues with moderate social democrats or christian democrats even, even if I do not share their ideology at all.

Now, is any of that suiting to my actual beliefs? No.

Its like just amongst the more sensitive approachs to various issues within the system that currently exist. That currently is. Even if I do fundamentally reject on such a deep level to a point where its just simply alien. You do no longer struggle or fight, because it isn't yours. So you can make the best of whats there. Which sometimes can give ways to more pragmatic and objective outsider approach, because you're not believing in many of its basic cultural and ideological tennants at all.

Unless of course you'd feel like to tear it all down for good and watch it burn...

[Bear Stearns]

Working in a corporate environment is a rather eye-opening lesson on human relations and cultural fits.

It's astounding how many international employees come off as absolute spergs (through no fault of their own) when navigating Corporate America.

[Kowani]

So you responded to people being gullible by being gullible...

Ok buddy I bet you're one of those Far Left aka SJW's who want to legalize pedophilia, have you heard of the eleven year old boy who was stripping in a gay bar? His parents forced him too! Children should not be thinking of sexuality at that age, but being curious or asking parents about sex, not a five year old. You're in sick in the head if you deny such claims or it's ok. No it's not, you see why the moderate left is going to vote for Trump. This trans shit is hurting the children of the future.

I hate to inform you that sexuality is active at that age anyway.

[Cekoviu]

When the Republicans were the radicals.

Republicans where Anti-slavery. When Democrats promoted lynching and slavery!

Humans did not have society. Therefore, we do not have society.

So you responded to people being gullible by being gullible...

Ok buddy I bet you're one of those Far Left aka SJW's who want to legalize pedophilia, have you heard of the eleven year old boy who was stripping in a gay bar? His parents forced him too! Children should not be thinking of sexuality at that age, but being curious or asking parents about sex, not a five year old. You're in sick in the head if you deny such claims or it's ok. No it's not, you see why the moderate left is going to vote for Trump. This trans shit is hurting the children of the future.

- I'm not your buddy, pal.
- I'm not far left, seeing as I'm a capitalist social libertarian. Nor am I strictly an SJW; as I've repeatedly said elsewhere, I am a social justice bard.
- Pedophilia isn't illegal in the US, so it's not possible to legalize it. Sexual abuse of children is illegal and I am not in favor of changing that, nor have I said anything that would remotely suggest that.
- None of that has anything to do with transgender issues and it's insane to think it does.

[The United Provinces of North America]

Ok buddy I bet you're one of those Far Left aka SJW's who want to legalize pedophilia, have you heard of the eleven year old boy who was stripping in a gay bar? His parents forced him too! Children should not be thinking of sexuality at that age, but being curious or asking parents about sex, not a five year old. You're in sick in the head if you deny such claims or it's ok. No it's not, you see why the moderate left is going to vote for Trump. This trans shit is hurting the children of the future.

I hate to inform you that sexuality is active at that age anyway.

Five years old and eleven?

[Grahnol]

I was in favour of eqzual rights for gay people some time ago. Then the trans-bullshit appeared, and the "all whites are racist" bullshit...so much bullshit. SO MUCH! BULLSHIT! These days I'm firmly against modern liberalism in general.

Modern American liberalism right?

Also, stuff like this really reminds me of how polarised and factionalised politics is nowadays to the point where hating one aspect of a group of people results in you hating everything else they support.

Gay marriage =/= trans issues. There’s a lot of people who are pro-LGB but not T. As I’ve heard before from some people in the LGB community, “Pro-LGB and fuck the T”.

So really gay marriage has nothing to do with any of this.

It's almost assumed that we are some kind of hive mind or something.

Honestly with people spewing out NPCisms nowadays I'm pretty convinced that the reasoning capacity of humanity is declining because of numerous complicated factors. Groups of people being hive-minded is also a possibility as well. I'm not talking about people in NSG btw, I'm talking about people in general.
By the way, I define 'NPCisms' as not merely proof by assertion, but also repeated assertion in unrelated topics.

[The United Provinces of North America]

Republicans where Anti-slavery. When Democrats promoted lynching and slavery!

Humans did not have society. Therefore, we do not have society.

Ok buddy I bet you're one of those Far Left aka SJW's who want to legalize pedophilia, have you heard of the eleven year old boy who was stripping in a gay bar? His parents forced him too! Children should not be thinking of sexuality at that age, but being curious or asking parents about sex, not a five year old. You're in sick in the head if you deny such claims or it's ok. No it's not, you see why the moderate left is going to vote for Trump. This trans shit is hurting the children of the future.

- I'm not your buddy, pal.
- I'm not far left, seeing as I'm a capitalist social libertarian. Nor am I strictly an SJW; as I've repeatedly said elsewhere, I am a social justice bard.
- Pedophilia isn't illegal in the US, so it's not possible to legalize it. Sexual abuse of children is illegal and I am not in favor of changing that, nor have I said anything that would remotely suggest that.
- None of that has anything to do with transgender issues and it's insane to think it does.

Pedophilia is illegal in the United States I think you need to watch the news and read your newspaper, now you sound insane and a troll! Trans want pedophilia legal, please go on Twitter. Plus way to contradict yourself! So the United States wasn't a society??? Are you dense?

[Kowani]

I hate to inform you that sexuality is active at that age anyway.

Five years old and eleven?

Did you read the link? Yes.

[The United Provinces of North America]

Five years old and eleven?

Did you read the link? Yes.

Nice love the weirdness. *Sarcasm* you both sound like clowns. Claiming five year olds have sex... You are sick.

[Nakena]

Working in a corporate environment is a rather eye-opening lesson on human relations and cultural fits.

It's astounding how many international employees come off as absolute spergs (through no fault of their own) when navigating Corporate America.

Yeah its quite astounding. Sometimes you can tell early on how a person is going to roll. Or not.

What causes the international employees though to do so?

Honestly with people spewing out NPCisms nowadays I'm pretty convinced that the reasoning capacity of humanity is declining because of numerous complicated factors. Groups of people being hive-minded is also a possibility as well. I'm not talking about people in NSG btw, I'm talking about people in general.
By the way, I define 'NPCisms' as not merely proof by assertion, but also repeated assertion in unrelated topics.

Now you need to ask yourself if you want those NPCs ruling over you and decide the fate of the planet...

[Kowani]

Did you read the link? Yes.

Nice love the weirdness. *Sarcasm* you both sound like clowns. Claiming five year olds have sex...

Sexuality and sexual activity aren’t the same thing.

[The United Provinces of North America]

Nice love the weirdness. *Sarcasm* you both sound like clowns. Claiming five year olds have sex...

Sexuality and sexual activity aren’t the same thing.

Still claiming that is sick minded and five years don't claim sexuality, unless you have repeatedly it in your five year olds head. They are usually playing with toys!