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Ancapistanana
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Postby Ancapistanana » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:52 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Ancapistanana wrote:ah yes.
It isn't misleading, thank you for affirming that.
most of us are insulting you for opinions you do hold, like, oh, I don't know...
THAT YOU THINK OBAMA IS A MUSLIM
also, not everyone who wants to save the planet is leftist. The thing is that the most vocal and supported leftists are, and the most vocal and supported right-wingers are literally slaves to big oil and gas companies.
What you were saying from your original post is clear as day, you were saying
"since some people bought seaside property, their argument is bad!"
And now that you have received appropriate backlash, you are trying to morph the argument into politics, when it really isn't.

When the fuck did I say that Obama was a Muslim? I'm pretty sure that I've never, ever called Obama a Muslim. I might have said that some people think he's a Muslim, but that doesn't mean I agree with them. Unless you're refering to the fact that I called him Barrok Hussein Obama- in that case- well- that's the guy's name! I'm not the one who named him. Calling someone by their name=/= making assumptions about one's religion. It = calling someone on by his name, nothing more, nothing less.

Now as for your next argument- I actually agree with you. Irrespective of whether or not climate change is anthropogenic- we need to save the world. I just think that listening to millionares yelling us for not having as much money as they do isn't the right way to do it. There are much better ways to save the world than listening to the likes of Al Gore yell at me because I can't afford all this green technology isn't the best way to do it- a conclusion I would have eventually come to, if you didn't make stupid assumptions about what my assumptions would be instead of giving me a chance to speak. In fact, the very fact that you just stupidly pulled the assumption that I think Obama is a Muslim out of your thin air tells me that you're much you're interested in drawing stupid conclusions about what I believe in than having an honest discussion. Seriously, when the fuck did I say, or even imply, that Obama was a Muslim? I'm not debating with people who speak on my behalf, plain amd simple. Now as for my statement about the 97% of climate scientists statistic being misleading, go on then, refute it

oh shit, it is his name.
Nevermind, sorry about that, I was wrong in that.

While yes, the 97% argument is misleading, it doesn't change the fact that earth is going to fucking die.
And, you seem to have not said anything about my last argument, which is that you're earlier argument you said
"because these people bought seaside homes, their argument is null!"
People refuted that, and you dodged responding to them, and now since that failed, you are trying to morph the argument into a matter of politics, which it really isn't.
and while that test itself may have been wrong, it's no secret that there is an overwhelming consensus that humans are accelerating climate change.
Those whom claim we don't are almost always not scientists, nor have they even the slightest idea of science nor the climate.
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:05 pm

Ancapistanana wrote:Those whom claim we don't are almost always not scientists, nor have they even the slightest idea of science nor the climate.

Indeed. Its the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.

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Postby New Periapsis » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:13 pm

I was avoiding this thread at first but holy crap am I glad I clicked. Watching OP trip from the start of this train wreck while everyone continues to tear his flimsy evidence apart is hilarious to watch.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:54 pm

New Periapsis wrote:I was avoiding this thread at first but holy crap am I glad I clicked. Watching OP trip from the start of this train wreck while everyone continues to tear his flimsy evidence apart is hilarious to watch.

There was a previous thread by the same OP that was just stuff like "if scientists care about climate change, why do they live on the coast?"
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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:25 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
New Periapsis wrote:I was avoiding this thread at first but holy crap am I glad I clicked. Watching OP trip from the start of this train wreck while everyone continues to tear his flimsy evidence apart is hilarious to watch.

There was a previous thread by the same OP that was just stuff like "if scientists care about climate change, why do they live on the coast?"


"If global warming is real, then why is my refrigerator so fucking cold?"

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Postby The Free Joy State » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:44 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:There was a previous thread by the same OP that was just stuff like "if scientists care about climate change, why do they live on the coast?"


"If global warming is real, then why is my refrigerator so fucking cold?"

"If the ice really is melting, how come any bar will offer me ice for my mojito? And, if the polar bears are supposed to be dying, then why did I see one at the zoo? At least make it plausible, science people."
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Oct 22, 2019 8:47 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:There was a previous thread by the same OP that was just stuff like "if scientists care about climate change, why do they live on the coast?"


"If global warming is real, then why is my refrigerator so fucking cold?"

If global warming is real, then why is there ice in the Arctic and Antarctic? Boom! Checkmate!
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Oct 22, 2019 10:37 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:There was a previous thread by the same OP that was just stuff like "if scientists care about climate change, why do they live on the coast?"


"If global warming is real, then why is my refrigerator so fucking cold?"


If there was global warming, then why does the temperature drop at night?
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:08 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
"If global warming is real, then why is my refrigerator so fucking cold?"


If there was global warming, then why does the temperature drop at night?

Checkmate, Scientists. With you and your stupid Science. *Dabs*

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Postby Charellia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:10 am

I find climate change one of the most utterly infuriating issues to discuss. Both sides of the issue have become so unbelievably dogmatic that there is no longer any possibility of having a productive dialogue. It's hard to view this as a purely scientific issue, when so many people in the conversation have clearly turned it into an ideological one (I have noticed a tendency for climate rhetoric to be tied into marxist rhetoric, for example). This, I think, has turned the issue into a distraction from itself, as activists on both sides have strayed farther and farther from any actual discussion of science.

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Postby Page » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:31 am

Charellia wrote:I find climate change one of the most utterly infuriating issues to discuss. Both sides of the issue have become so unbelievably dogmatic that there is no longer any possibility of having a productive dialogue. It's hard to view this as a purely scientific issue, when so many people in the conversation have clearly turned it into an ideological one (I have noticed a tendency for climate rhetoric to be tied into marxist rhetoric, for example). This, I think, has turned the issue into a distraction from itself, as activists on both sides have strayed farther and farther from any actual discussion of science.


One of those sides accurately recognizes that climate change is a major threat to human society and reasonably demands we take action while the other side either denies that climate change is happening or calls for apathy.

This "both sides" crap. If it's not one stupid thing it's another like "Nazis and Black Lives Matter are equally racist" or "Creationists and evolutionists are both too dogmatic and refuse to consider the other side's evidence." Enough.
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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:48 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
"If global warming is real, then why is my refrigerator so fucking cold?"


If there was global warming, then why does the temperature drop at night?

If there was global warming, then why am I not hot?
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:02 am

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
If there was global warming, then why does the temperature drop at night?

If there was global warming, then why am I not hot?
(cries inside)

Reminds me of that time Senator Jim Inhofe tried to disprove climate change by bringing a snowball to the Senate floor

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Postby Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:08 am

Alvecia wrote:
Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:If there was global warming, then why am I not hot?
(cries inside)

Reminds me of that time Senator Jim Inhofe tried to disprove climate change by bringing a snowball to the Senate floor

Hot as in looks. You know that we're laughing at the idiot that created the thread
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Postby Alvecia » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:11 am

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Reminds me of that time Senator Jim Inhofe tried to disprove climate change by bringing a snowball to the Senate floor

Hot as in looks. You know that we're laughing at the idiot that created the thread

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Postby Cekoviu » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:13 am

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
If there was global warming, then why does the temperature drop at night?

If there was global warming, then why am I not hot?
(cries inside)

Deeply relatable.
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Postby Ransium » Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:15 am

Sapporo Hyperspace Riftgate Laboratory wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Reminds me of that time Senator Jim Inhofe tried to disprove climate change by bringing a snowball to the Senate floor

Hot as in looks. You know that we're laughing at the idiot that created the thread


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Postby True Refuge » Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:31 am

Charellia wrote:I find climate change one of the most utterly infuriating issues to discuss. Both sides of the issue have become so unbelievably dogmatic that there is no longer any possibility of having a productive dialogue. It's hard to view this as a purely scientific issue, when so many people in the conversation have clearly turned it into an ideological one (I have noticed a tendency for climate rhetoric to be tied into marxist rhetoric, for example). This, I think, has turned the issue into a distraction from itself, as activists on both sides have strayed farther and farther from any actual discussion of science.


What an awful take.
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