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Postby The United Provinces of North America » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:26 pm

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Heloin wrote:We'd just have to stop you from clubbing people who are annoying first.

You have to stop me from clubbing period. Or else there won't be and ladies left for the rest of you.

Lmao.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:26 pm

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New haven america wrote:Yes, especially among those of European and Asian/American descent.

Also, it's been proven that most features that Cro Magnons, Neanderthals, etc... had, were actually over exaggerations and taken from bones of specimens who tended to be much older than usual.


Neanderthals are noticable, especially in features. Stocky and broad boned. Shorter than Homo sapiens.

Again, the only reason you think that is because scientists were using bones from older individuals.

Younger Neanderthal bones look almost indistinguishable from modern human bones.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:28 pm

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Neanderthaland wrote:Yup. And yet if you put me in a suit, I could ride metro transit all day without getting a second glance.

We'd just have to stop you from clubbing people who are annoying first.

We have to stop everyone from doing that already :p
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Postby The United Provinces of North America » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:28 pm

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The United Provinces of North America wrote:
Neanderthals are noticable, especially in features. Stocky and broad boned. Shorter than Homo sapiens.

Again, the only reason you think that is because scientists were using bones from older individuals.

Younger Neanderthal bones look almost indistinguishable from modern human bones.

Again with the guy who thought space travel was easy, and there's differences look at some skulls. Separate specie's, broader bones, short, stocky, stronger than modern man.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:30 pm

The United Provinces of North America wrote:
New haven america wrote:Again, the only reason you think that is because scientists were using bones from older individuals.

Younger Neanderthal bones look almost indistinguishable from modern human bones.

Again with the guy who thought space travel was easy, and there's differences look at some skulls. Separate specie's, broader bones, short, stocky, stronger than modern man.

Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?
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Postby Geneviev » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:32 pm

I would definitely miss music if the world ended. But at the same time, if humans keep doing things that we know are eventually going to cause the end of the world, we do kind of deserve it.
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Postby Arthenius » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:33 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:The humans that are alive billions of years into the future will look nothing like today.


I doubt humans will be around by then


Look, it's known that if one buys a house, each year the chances of catastrophe striking your shelter increases by a very small amount so it's compounded in 30 or 50 years.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:33 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The United Provinces of North America wrote:Again with the guy who thought space travel was easy, and there's differences look at some skulls. Separate specie's, broader bones, short, stocky, stronger than modern man.

Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

Early Europeans/Asians got it on with Neanderthals and produced viable offspring.

Which actually did help Europeans and Asians to acclimate and adapt to the colder temps of Europe and Northern/Himalayan Asia.
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Postby The United Provinces of North America » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:33 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The United Provinces of North America wrote:Again with the guy who thought space travel was easy, and there's differences look at some skulls. Separate specie's, broader bones, short, stocky, stronger than modern man.

Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

Same genus, separate specie's. Homo sapiens interbred with Homo neanderthalensis.

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Postby Jean-Paul Sartre » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:34 pm

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The United Provinces of North America wrote:Again with the guy who thought space travel was easy, and there's differences look at some skulls. Separate specie's, broader bones, short, stocky, stronger than modern man.

Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

The way humans define "species" is weird, and depends how much chauvinism we apply to that branch. Neanderthals are a separate species because we like to pretend we're somehow significantly different or wiser than they were.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:35 pm

The United Provinces of North America wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

Same genus, separate specie's. Homo sapiens interbred with Homo neanderthalensis.

Different species produce sterile offspring.


Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

The way humans define "species" is weird, and depends how much chauvinism we apply to that branch. Neanderthals are a separate species because we like to pretend we're somehow significantly different or wiser than they were.

Human egos may create definitions but they don't alter the underlying science, monsieur.
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Postby The United Provinces of North America » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:36 pm

Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

The way humans define "species" is weird, and depends how much chauvinism we apply to that branch. Neanderthals are a separate species because we like to pretend we're somehow significantly different or wiser than they were.

Brain size doesn't mean anything, by that logic Sperm Whale would be the smartest species. Plus you can tell differences.

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Postby Heloin » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:36 pm

The United Provinces of North America wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

Same genus, separate specie's. Homo sapiens interbred with Homo neanderthalensis.

If Neanderthals were around today would we still consider them a different species? More importantly how would Ug the Car Dealer cope with the existential crisis like the end of our world?

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Postby Senkaku » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:36 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The United Provinces of North America wrote:Same genus, separate specie's. Homo sapiens interbred with Homo neanderthalensis.

Different species produce sterile offspring.

Yeah I think the usual classification for us and them is subspecies? Sapiens sapiens and sapiens neanderthalensis?
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Postby The United Provinces of North America » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:37 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The United Provinces of North America wrote:Same genus, separate specie's. Homo sapiens interbred with Homo neanderthalensis.

Different species produce sterile offspring.


Jean-Paul Sartre wrote:The way humans define "species" is weird, and depends how much chauvinism we apply to that branch. Neanderthals are a separate species because we like to pretend we're somehow significantly different or wiser than they were.

Human egos may create definitions but they don't alter the underlying science, monsieur.

So how did Neanderthal DNA get in you? You literally contradicted yourself.

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Postby The United Provinces of North America » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:38 pm

Heloin wrote:
The United Provinces of North America wrote:Same genus, separate specie's. Homo sapiens interbred with Homo neanderthalensis.

If Neanderthals were around today would we still consider them a different species? More importantly how would Ug the Car Dealer cope with the existential crisis like the end of our world?

Yes, due to DNA.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:38 pm

The United Provinces of North America wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Different species produce sterile offspring.



Human egos may create definitions but they don't alter the underlying science, monsieur.

So how did Neanderthal DNA get in you? You literally contradicted yourself.

I didn't. We're not "separate species," that was my point.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:39 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The United Provinces of North America wrote:Again with the guy who thought space travel was easy, and there's differences look at some skulls. Separate specie's, broader bones, short, stocky, stronger than modern man.

Separate species? How did Neanderthal DNA get into our genome?

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Postby The United Provinces of North America » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:41 pm

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The United Provinces of North America wrote:So how did Neanderthal DNA get in you? You literally contradicted yourself.

I didn't. We're not "separate species," that was my point.

Genus: Homo
Species: neanderthalensis..

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:43 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Different species produce sterile offspring.

Yeah I think the usual classification for us and them is subspecies? Sapiens sapiens and sapiens neanderthalensis?

Yep, they're a subspecies or offshoot of humanity.
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Postby Quebec-Libre » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:43 pm

I don't see why I wouldn't mine. It's something out of my control, so if it happens, I'll probably dead before the actual survivors are identified.

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Postby Aureumterra » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:44 pm

New haven america wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Yeah I think the usual classification for us and them is subspecies? Sapiens sapiens and sapiens neanderthalensis?

Yep, they're a subspecies or offshoot of humanity.

They weren’t the brightest
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:44 pm

The United Provinces of North America wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I didn't. We're not "separate species," that was my point.

Genus: Homo
Species: neanderthalensis..

Piffle. "H. sapiens neanderthalensis" and "H. neanderthalensis" are equally acceptable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interbree ... ern_humans
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Postby Heloin » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:47 pm

The United Provinces of North America wrote:
Heloin wrote:If Neanderthals were around today would we still consider them a different species? More importantly how would Ug the Car Dealer cope with the existential crisis like the end of our world?

Yes, due to DNA.

That really doesn't answer the question.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:48 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
New haven america wrote:Yep, they're a subspecies or offshoot of humanity.

They weren’t the brightest

Their intelligence was actually pretty similar to that of what became modern humans.

Only real difference is that our stamina levels are stupidly high and persistent compared to other species, probably even the highest our of any species in the world.
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