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Which Option Best Describes your Level of Education?

PhD
10
6%
Masters
17
10%
Bachelors
29
18%
At University
39
24%
Some University (think: Steve Jobs)
13
8%
Technical Qualification
8
5%
Secondary/High School Qualification
16
10%
Some Secondary/High School
0
No votes
At Secondary/High School
23
14%
Other
10
6%
 
Total votes : 165

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Forsher
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Postby Forsher » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:48 am

Xmara wrote:I'm currently double majoring in biology and criminal justice and minoring in chemistry. I want to be a forensic scientist.


I'm sure I used to know someone here who wanted to do something like this but it was very difficult in terms of the bureaucracy. Perhaps, for whatever reason, they wanted to do law and therefore had to choose between criminology and biology or something?

This is, of course, a problem with credential based education... no matter how flexible the system at some point the default rules just fall apart for what people want to do. Like someone who I know for sure couldn't do what they wanted which was music and engineering. If they had a different instrument (or so they told me) the engineering faculty would've let them do music too, but not with their instrument of choice.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:57 am

I have a bachelors degree in Fine Art, printmaking to be exact.

I briefly thought about doing a masters in second year, but i was burnt out at the end of third year so was not in the mood to go back to uni for anything else, just wanted to get working and doing other stuff.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:31 am

I have some university. I really want to go back and get a BAA.
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The Huskar Social Union
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:33 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:I have some university. I really want to go back and get a BAA.

heh
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Vistulange
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Founded: May 13, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Vistulange » Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:44 am

B.A in International Relations alongside a Political Science minor, doing my M.A now on International Relations. Probably going to go on to a PhD in Political Science specialising in comparative politics, specifically on authoritarianism, democratisation, nation-building, and identity.

Also, native Turkish speaker, near-native proficiency in English, basic knowledge of German.

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Rojava Free State
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Ex-Nation

Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Oct 20, 2019 3:53 am

Neanderthaland wrote:I'm very highly educated. I have the best words.


I knew someone else still found this joke to be absolutely hilarious
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Kernen
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Postby Kernen » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:26 am

Forsher wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:I have a Juris Doctor which is technically a doctorate. You might want to change PHD to Doctorate to be more broad as there are several degrees that are doctorates but not PHDs.


Sorry, but in NZ the JD is worth no more than a BA (or, rather, an LLB)... it falls at level seven. Don't worry... MDs are also only bachelor's.

That's fascinating... a MA from, say, Harvard or even MIT is worth less than an MA from AUT if we take that literally. The former is worth no more than my PGDip (level 8 both) whereas the latter is a level 9 qualification. I suppose one could always appeal.


It makes a lot of sense, really. A US JD or MD tailors you to professional license in the US, but not necessarily in Australia or Germany. MD is probably more transferable, but a US law degree is so much esoteric nonsense outside the US.

Of course, that is from an immigration perspective, and not a question of quality of education, rigor of program, or anything else. Its a utility question in that jurisdiction.
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Sovaal
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Postby Sovaal » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:12 am

Not nearly educated enough.
Most of the time I have no idea what the hell I'm doing or talking about.

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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Oct 20, 2019 7:44 am

For a detailed and non-immigration-based breakdown, take a look at the Regulated Qualifications Framework. It can tell you that, for example, your CMI Diploma in Strategic Management and Leadership is level 8 (doctoral), your Postgraduate Diploma in Equine Vetinary Medicine is level 7 (masters), your Higher Diploma in Law is level 6 (batchelors), your Extended Diploma in Accounting is level 5 (foundation degree), your Award in Pastoral Theology is level 4 (A-level equivalent), your Certificate for Court Ushers is level 3 (high GCSE-equivalent), your Certificate in Introduction to Barbering is level 2 (low GCSE-equivalent), and your Entry Level Certificate in Construction Skills is level 1 ("basic factual knowledge and complete well-defined routine tasks").
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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Cekoviu » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:36 am

Forsher wrote:
Xmara wrote:I'm currently double majoring in biology and criminal justice and minoring in chemistry. I want to be a forensic scientist.


I'm sure I used to know someone here who wanted to do something like this but it was very difficult in terms of the bureaucracy. Perhaps, for whatever reason, they wanted to do law and therefore had to choose between criminology and biology or something?

This is, of course, a problem with credential based education... no matter how flexible the system at some point the default rules just fall apart for what people want to do. Like someone who I know for sure couldn't do what they wanted which was music and engineering. If they had a different instrument (or so they told me) the engineering faculty would've let them do music too, but not with their instrument of choice.

Jesus, dude. Did you just make this thread so you could shoot down people's hopes?
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Chernoslavia
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:37 am

High school diploma. Have no intention on going to college, I'm going to enlist in the military this year.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:47 am

Chernoslavia wrote:High school diploma. Have no intention on going to college, I'm going to enlist in the military this year.


Army, navy, marines or air force?
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Chernoslavia
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sun Oct 20, 2019 8:52 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:High school diploma. Have no intention on going to college, I'm going to enlist in the military this year.


Army, navy, marines or air force?


Marines probably.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Kernen
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Postby Kernen » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:23 am

Chernoslavia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Army, navy, marines or air force?


Marines probably.

We'll be sure to send you care package crayons :P
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Arachkya
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Founded: Sep 05, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Arachkya » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:26 am

I never had the chance, I have autism, all i got was special schools for the mentally ill,

The 90,s where Hell, just like my childhood.

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Toscana e Ducati di Firenze e Siena
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Postby Toscana e Ducati di Firenze e Siena » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:44 am

BA in History and Art History, Master in Art History and Archaeology, Postgraduate Diploma in Visual Culture Studies and now in a Certificate for High School Education in History and Art History ( and an online diploma in Creative Writing ^^'' ). Yeah, I'm an eternal student XD.

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Greed and Death
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:51 am

Forsher wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:I have a Juris Doctor which is technically a doctorate. You might want to change PHD to Doctorate to be more broad as there are several degrees that are doctorates but not PHDs.


Sorry, but in NZ the JD is worth no more than a BA (or, rather, an LLB)... it falls at level seven. Don't worry... MDs are also only bachelor's.

That's fascinating... a MA from, say, Harvard or even MIT is worth less than an MA from AUT if we take that literally. The former is worth no more than my PGDip (level 8 both) whereas the latter is a level 9 qualification. I suppose one could always appeal.


I visited a lawyer friend in Belgium and we discussed course work of the US vs Belgium and my program was by far closer to a Doctoral program with having to research and write a thesis whereas his was pretty much an undergrad program with a focus on the court system and the law.

Now employment wise when I explore commonwealth countries I often receive significant interest and a promise of waiving the requirement to take an LLM to practice there.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Oct 20, 2019 9:52 am

Forsher wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:I have a Juris Doctor which is technically a doctorate. You might want to change PHD to Doctorate to be more broad as there are several degrees that are doctorates but not PHDs.


Sorry, but in NZ the JD is worth no more than a BA (or, rather, an LLB)... it falls at level seven. Don't worry... MDs are also only bachelor's.

That's fascinating... a MA from, say, Harvard or even MIT is worth less than an MA from AUT if we take that literally. The former is worth no more than my PGDip (level 8 both) whereas the latter is a level 9 qualification. I suppose one could always appeal.


I visited a lawyer friend in Belgium and we discussed course work of the US vs Belgium and my program was by far closer to a Doctoral program with having to research and write a thesis whereas his was pretty much an undergrad program with a focus on the court system and the law.

Now employment wise when I explore commonwealth countries I often receive significant interest and a promise of waiving the requirement to take an LLM to practice there.
"Trying to solve the healthcare problem by mandating people buy insurance is like trying to solve the homeless problem by mandating people buy a house."(paraphrase from debate with Hilary Clinton)
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Postby Luminesa » Sun Oct 20, 2019 10:43 am

Toscana e Ducati di Firenze e Siena wrote:BA in History and Art History, Master in Art History and Archaeology, Postgraduate Diploma in Visual Culture Studies and now in a Certificate for High School Education in History and Art History ( and an online diploma in Creative Writing ^^'' ). Yeah, I'm an eternal student XD.

Being an eternal student is a good thing! As long as you can pay the loans. :lol:
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Postby Vistulange » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:01 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Toscana e Ducati di Firenze e Siena wrote:BA in History and Art History, Master in Art History and Archaeology, Postgraduate Diploma in Visual Culture Studies and now in a Certificate for High School Education in History and Art History ( and an online diploma in Creative Writing ^^'' ). Yeah, I'm an eternal student XD.

Being an eternal student is a good thing! As long as you can pay the loans. :lol:

Not everybody is in the US.

Then again, even my institution - a private one - under no circumstances accepts people for graduate studies without at least a tuition waiver. Practically 99% are also given stipends as well, in return for RA or TA work, the former of which is maximum 10 hours a week.

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Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Oct 20, 2019 2:24 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:I have some university. I really want to go back and get a BAA.

The BAA in sheep studies or the BAA in being a sheep?
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Chernoslavia
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Postby Chernoslavia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 1:21 pm

Kernen wrote:
Chernoslavia wrote:
Marines probably.

We'll be sure to send you care package crayons :P


Anything but Crayola please, those give me the runnings.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

- Alexander Solzhenitsyn

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Ex-Nation

Postby NERVUN » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:21 pm

BA, Secondary Education (English and Computer Education), Japanese Studies. MS, Counseling and Educational Psychology, Information Technologies in Education, TESOL Certification.

Mostly I just like alphabet soup.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:24 pm

NERVUN wrote:BA, Secondary Education (English and Computer Education), Japanese Studies. MS, Counseling and Educational Psychology, Information Technologies in Education, TESOL Certification.

Mostly I just like alphabet soup.

Do you like katagana in your soup or hiragana?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Oct 22, 2019 4:26 pm

NERVUN wrote:BA, Secondary Education (English and Computer Education), Japanese Studies. MS, Counseling and Educational Psychology, Information Technologies in Education, TESOL Certification.

Mostly I just like alphabet soup.


I cyrillic what you did there.
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