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by Thepeopl » Sat Oct 19, 2019 12:55 am
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by The Alma Mater » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:07 am
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by Estanglia » Sat Oct 19, 2019 1:34 am
Australian rePublic wrote:Anyways, what's your opinion on all this?
Torrocca wrote:"Your honor, it was not mein fault! I didn't order the systematic genocide of millions of people, it was the twenty kilograms of pure-cut Bavarian cocaine that did it!"
by New haven america » Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:32 am
Juristonia wrote:Drongonia wrote:Oh god, not you again. Time to leave this thread before I put a damn bullet in my head. (But no, it wasn't directed at everyone I disagree with, but details don't concern you much.)Drongonia wrote:Of course I am. What an absolutely condescending remark to make. Mind you, whenever I see you in the forums you're always making ridiculous arguments and straight up being rude to people - no changes here.
by Kannap » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:07 am
Luna Amore wrote:Please remember to attend the ritualistic burning of Kannap for heresy
by Chernoslavia » Sat Oct 19, 2019 5:59 am
by LiberNovusAmericae » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:05 am
Kowani wrote:I mean…we know much of what the world used to look like before industrialization. You heard of the little ice age? But regardless, we do know causation-for decades, actually. But here. And no, that’s not how science works. Controls are for experiments, not necessarily observation. Both are extremely important.Antityranicals wrote:Exactly as I've said, guesswork based on a few short-term trends. The fact that you can demonstrate correlation with a number of scientific looking graphs doesn't mean causation, nor does it mean science. Science is more than observation. Without a control Earth, you've got nothing.Mars has little heat because Greenhouse Gases (like CO2, but it’s not the only one) trap heat from the sun. Guess what isn’t hitting Mars? Oh, that’s right. Heat from the sun.I'll also go ahead and note that you completely overlook the fact that Carbon Dioxide decreases in effectiveness as a greenhouse gas as concentration increases in an exponential ratio. After a point, adding more CO2 will actually cause the atmosphere to trap less heat. The extreme of this is demonstrated on Mars, which has tons of CO2, but very little greenhouse effect.
by Ifreann » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:07 am
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:18 am
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by The Free Joy State » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:20 am
Ifreann wrote:Gotta say, I'm very tickled by this idea that we can't study the Earth because we don't have a control Earth.
by Risastorstein » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:24 am
by Des-Bal » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:00 am
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Thepeopl » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:12 am
Australian rePublic wrote:-snip-
Climate Crusader and Australian member of parliament, Zali Steggle, lives in one of Sydney's wealthiest suburbs, on the coast, with no solar panels:
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andr ... 18200fe886
If you're so worried about climate change, Senator Steggal, why in the fudge don't you live in a poorer suburb that won't get away when the sea levels rise. The money you make from the sale of your house and purchase of a new house in a cheaper inland area could be used to purchase solar panels, and you'll still have a few hundred thousand (if not million) dollars left over. Further, she drives and SUV? Why, just why? Why can't you ride a bike, Senator Steggal? I mean isn't that what you climate crusaders demand from us plebs, who live tens of kilometres from the CBD to do? If you want us to ride a bike from tens of kilometres to our jobs (many of which are in the CBD, tens of kilometres away) why don't you lead by example? You live very close to the CBD. (For my American readers, CBD= Downtown in Australian terminology). Further, your seat of Warringa has direct bus services to the CBD. When I attended university in the -snip-
by Totenborg » Sat Oct 19, 2019 7:14 am
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by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:35 am
Antityranicals wrote:Let's be honest: Anyone who says that "science proves human-caused global warming" is either a liar, or doesn't know what science is. Science follows the scientific method. It's impossible for a scientific study to be made on the cause of global warming precisely because there is no control variable. We don't have an otherwise exactly identical "Earth without humans" to study. If we did, we could scientifically determine whether or not humans have an effect on climate. But as it is, we literally have no idea why the earth is warming, nor do we know for sure that it is warming beyond a few general short-term trends. (A hundred or so years is crazy short-term in Earth terms) All we have is guesswork, and a large group of special interests who want to use "humans are killing the planet" as an excuse to take control of the economy, and enslave us all to their collective. And even if the guesswork is right, there's no reason to believe that the effects of a few degrees of warming would actually cause any substantial damage, as to be worth the global economic recession that these plans would bring about.
by Chernoslavia » Sat Oct 19, 2019 8:48 am
Totenborg wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:
You're not libertarian stop calling yourself that.
Do you ever bother to know anything about anything you talk about?
A libertarian socialist is an anarchist aka an old school libertarian. The American right libertarianism that you are probably into has got nothing to do with libertarianism as seen in the rest of the world.
by Chernoslavia » Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:43 am
Des-Bal wrote:1) You're assuming these people are betting against society, that they're assuming the seas will rise indefinitely and all of their work to fight global warming is ultimately pointless.
2) The sea levels are rising at about 1/8th of an inch per year. These people have plenty of time to sell their properties or die before it becomes a concern.
3) Boo fucking hoo small business owners. I don't care if your business fails, most businesses fail, if you don't have the money to pay taxes then the issue is your business is not viable and I'll play you a sad song on the worlds smallest violin.
4) Since you have access to a computer I assume you're aware you don't have to personally invent a technology to make use of it. As people are more willing to pay for green innovations more will be devised and more will become available.
by The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:13 am
Des-Bal wrote:1) You're assuming these people are betting against society, that they're assuming the seas will rise indefinitely and all of their work to fight global warming is ultimately pointless.
2) The sea levels are rising at about 1/8th of an inch per year. These people have plenty of time to sell their properties or die before it becomes a concern.
3) Boo fucking hoo small business owners. I don't care if your business fails, most businesses fail, if you don't have the money to pay taxes then the issue is your business is not viable and I'll play you a sad song on the worlds smallest violin.
4) Since you have access to a computer I assume you're aware you don't have to personally invent a technology to make use of it. As people are more willing to pay for green innovations more will be devised and more will become available.
by Outer Sparta » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:18 am
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by Mingulay Isle » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:35 am
by Godular » Sat Oct 19, 2019 10:42 am
Ifreann wrote:Gotta say, I'm very tickled by this idea that we can't study the Earth because we don't have a control Earth.
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