UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Risottia]

Labour's become so rubbish I'm actually going to have to vote for them to make sure they don't lose my constituency. This is not how I wanted them to win my vote back.

Tbh I think this entire election is going to be marred by people being forced to vote tactically.

The whole FPTP system mandates tactical voting. This election isn't any different.

[The New California Republic]

Tbh I think this entire election is going to be marred by people being forced to vote tactically.

The whole FPTP system mandates tactical voting. This election isn't any different.

Indeed, but I think especially this one though, because of people being so pissed with some of the main parties that the only reason they vote for them is to keep others out.

[Vassenor]

Meanwhile I'm in a CON safe seat so I'm buggered.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Sinn Fein will win West Belfast again, that is guaranteed.

Hoping Alliance might be able to snap South Belfast, possibly East Belfast from the DUP as the rumour mills go.

Also the UUP is apparently, not going to be making any pacts with the DUP this time around, hopefully that cuts into the unionist vote and allows them to even try and take a seat or two from the DUP. Foyle might possibly go to the SDLP.

[The New California Republic]

Sinn Fein will win West Belfast again, that is guaranteed.

Hoping Alliance might be able to snap South Belfast, possibly East Belfast from the DUP as the rumour mills go.

Also the UUP is apparently, not going to be making any pacts with the DUP this time around, hopefully that cuts into the unionist vote and allows them to even try and take a seat or two from the DUP. Foyle might possibly go to the SDLP.

Given what has been happening as well as this area always having a vote split mainly between two parties, I think my constituency is too close to call. I'm going to encourage Lib Dem voters to go and vote, including family members. The difference between the two parties has been in single figures in recent years...

[Philjia]

On the upside, having another general election gives us another opportunity to observe the ritual of Jeremy Vine being trapped in the matrix and losing his mind.

[The New California Republic]

The UK will be Islamic by 2035
We will come there and convert and populate it

Lol no.

[The Huskar Social Union]

The UK will be Islamic by 2035
We will come there and convert and populate it

And im the god emperor of mankind.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Interesting thing about North Belfast, is that SF has seen consistent growth there in essentially every election and was only 2k votes off of taking it in the last election seeing a +7.8 swing in their vote compared to a DUP -0.8.

SF could possibly unseat Nigel Dodds which would be fucking hilarious. It would also be the first time a nationalist MP has taken Belfast North.

[Vassenor]

The UK will be Islamic by 2035
We will come there and convert and populate it

[The New California Republic]

Interesting thing about North Belfast, is that SF has seen consistent growth there in essentially every election and was only 2k votes off of taking it in the last election seeing a +7.8 swing in their vote compared to a DUP -0.8.

SF could possibly unseat Nigel Dodds which would be fucking hilarious. It would also be the first time a nationalist MP has taken Belfast North.

It's kinda similar in Scotland. There are a few strongholds against the SNP here and there, but they seem to get less and less each time.

[Salandriagado]

Meanwhile I'm in a CON safe seat so I'm buggered.

I've just moved from a CON safe seat to a LAB safe seat. Still going to vote for Labour, because the local MP is excellent.

[Dumb Ideologies]

The UK will be Islamic by 2035
We will come there and convert and populate it

And im the god emperor of mankind.

greetings emperor are you well

[The Huskar Social Union]

And im the god emperor of mankind.

greetings emperor are you well

Ive been better. Had a bad year but i heard about some sweet real estate in the Himalayas im thinking of investing in.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

I will be voting for the Tories as my MP has a majority of just 31, but I would like to vote for the Brexit Party.

I don't understand what Labour is doing -- trying to gerrymander an election by dumping kids and non-citizens into the poll; are they really giving themselves a good look to their northern Brexit voters? I don't think so.

[Salandriagado]

I will be voting for the Tories as my MP has a majority of just 31, but I would like to vote for the Brexit Party.

I don't understand what Labour is doing -- trying to gerrymander an election by dumping kids and non-citizens into the poll; are they really giving themselves a good look to their northern Brexit voters? I don't think so.

Allowing people to vote is not gerrymandering.

[Ifreann]

I will be voting for the Tories as my MP has a majority of just 31, but I would like to vote for the Brexit Party.

I don't understand what Labour is doing -- trying to gerrymander an election by dumping kids and non-citizens into the poll; are they really giving themselves a good look to their northern Brexit voters? I don't think so.

That's not what gerrymandering is. And non-citizens are always able to vote in your elections.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

I will be voting for the Tories as my MP has a majority of just 31, but I would like to vote for the Brexit Party.

I don't understand what Labour is doing -- trying to gerrymander an election by dumping kids and non-citizens into the poll; are they really giving themselves a good look to their northern Brexit voters? I don't think so.

Allowing people to vote is not gerrymandering.

It is. Manipulating a result that is unequivocally in your favour.

I will be voting for the Tories as my MP has a majority of just 31, but I would like to vote for the Brexit Party.

I don't understand what Labour is doing -- trying to gerrymander an election by dumping kids and non-citizens into the poll; are they really giving themselves a good look to their northern Brexit voters? I don't think so.

That's not what gerrymandering is. And non-citizens are always able to vote in your elections.

How?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Allowing people to vote is not gerrymandering.

It is. Manipulating a result that is unequivocally in your favour.

That's not what gerrymandering is. And non-citizens are always able to vote in your elections.

How?

Gerrymandering refers to the manipulation of boundaries of an electoral constituency

[Ifreann]

Allowing people to vote is not gerrymandering.

It is. Manipulating a result that is unequivocally in your favour.

That's not what gerrymandering means. Gerrymandering is drawing the borders of constituencies to achieve some kind of electoral advantage.

That's not what gerrymandering is. And non-citizens are always able to vote in your elections.

How?

The same way citizens are able to. You allow them. UK election law allows citizens of specified countries to vote in your elections. The Brexit referendum wasn't limited to British citizens either.

[SD_Film Artists]

I wonder if Labour will join the Lib Dems in an anti-Brexit alliance. It worked in a recent by-election so Corbyn should consider it if he's serious about stopping a Tory Brexit.

[Vassenor]

I wonder if Labour will join the Lib Dems in an anti-Brexit alliance. It worked in a recent by-election so Corbyn should consider it if he's serious about stopping a Tory Brexit.

After his calls for a GNU went down like a lead balloon that's unlikely.

[The New California Republic]

I wonder if Labour will join the Lib Dems in an anti-Brexit alliance. It worked in a recent by-election so Corbyn should consider it if he's serious about stopping a Tory Brexit.

What's more worrying is that the SNP could be in the position to be kingmaker, and I doubt anyone bar Labour would concede to them.

[Hirota]

I wonder if Labour will join the Lib Dems in an anti-Brexit alliance. It worked in a recent by-election so Corbyn should consider it if he's serious about stopping a Tory Brexit.

He might as well hand in his Bennite members card then.

This is the problem Corbs has - he's a Bennite Eurosceptic who is only in power because of the firmly pro-EU momentum. The two are diametrically opposed.

[Definitely Not Trumptonium]

It is. Manipulating a result that is unequivocally in your favour.



How?

Gerrymandering refers to the manipulation of boundaries of an electoral constituency

Potato potato, still the same thing.

How?

The same way citizens are able to. You allow them. UK election law allows citizens of specified countries to vote in your elections. The Brexit referendum wasn't limited to British citizens either.

Doesn't alter my point at all, Labour is trying to expand their vote in their advantage, but probably to the detriment of their northern pro-leave voters who see their attempts to "make foreigners vote" as an abomination and a clear break of Labour's brexit & migration promises, so even more likely to vote bxp/tory than before.