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Who do you support to become the next Labour Party Leader?

Clive Lewis (DROPPED OUT)
2
2%
Keir Starmer (Shadow Brexit Secretary, MP for Holborn and St Pancras)
48
41%
Lisa Nandy (MP for Wigan)
11
9%
Jess Phillips (DROPPED OUT)
17
15%
Emily Thornberry (Shadow First Secretary of State, MP for Islington South and Finsbury)
7
6%
Yvette Cooper (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Dan Jarvis (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Ian Lavery (DROPPED OUT)
1
1%
Rebecca Long Bailey (Shadow Business Secretary, MP for Salford and Eccles)
17
15%
Other (Please state who in a reply)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 116

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Tue Oct 29, 2019 8:20 pm

The Archregimancy wrote:I have taken the liberty of using my modly powers to change the poll and make it a general election poll.

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I apologise to everyone who's now going to point out how imperfect the poll is, especially to voters in Northern Ireland who might reasonably object to my conflating the main community-oriented parties into two blocks (and leaving out the Alliance Party).


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Eh its fine, ive been at work the last two days and couldnt change it anyway. Now im up at 3am because.,.. well i am.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:39 pm

The only answer for the restoration of the homeland is to imbue England with the Yankee spirit. East Anglians and any remaining Calvinists still in the UK will make for a natural collaborationist class with the new imposition of Puritan Yankee Anglo-Saxon rule over the British Isles. For indeed, Cromwell is our Lord Protect and Boston, Massachusetts is the New Jerusalem.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:02 am

Bear Stearns wrote:The only answer for the restoration of the homeland is to imbue England with the Yankee spirit. East Anglians and any remaining Calvinists still in the UK will make for a natural collaborationist class with the new imposition of Puritan Yankee Anglo-Saxon rule over the British Isles. For indeed, Cromwell is our Lord Protect and Boston, Massachusetts is the New Jerusalem.


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Postby Samadhi » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:28 am

Bear Stearns wrote:The only answer for the restoration of the homeland is to imbue England with the Yankee spirit. East Anglians and any remaining Calvinists still in the UK will make for a natural collaborationist class with the new imposition of Puritan Yankee Anglo-Saxon rule over the British Isles. For indeed, Cromwell is our Lord Protect and Boston, Massachusetts is the New Jerusalem.


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Postby Crysuko » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:41 am

Who's up for another term of deadlock neoliberalism. Labour are down 10% in the voting intentions, and with nobody shutting the hell up about brexit. When Corbyn appeared, I had such hope.

I guess I'll go full doomer now.
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Kelinfort wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

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Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:20 am

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Postby Shrillland » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:36 am

The bookies have spoken: https://www.yahoo.com/news/who-will-win-uk-general-election-161039452.html

Ladbrokes has 10/11 odds on a Conservative majority with 20/1 for Labour.
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Postby The Free Joy State » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:45 am

Shrillland wrote:The bookies have spoken: https://www.yahoo.com/news/who-will-win-uk-general-election-161039452.html

Ladbrokes has 10/11 odds on a Conservative majority with 20/1 for Labour.

Oddschecker is showing 1/6 on Conservatives having most seats and 15/2 on Labour, with 7/2 on the next PM being Jeremy Corbyn and 1/4 on it being Boris.

I think it's worth looking at the other odds alongside, as it clarifies the picture is not that overwhelming -- odds in gambling mainly being the amount staked (so being more a reflection of others' opinions).

Polling isn't necessarily reliable, but at least it is more of an indication about how people may intend to vote, rather than what people may be willing to back money on.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:05 am

I wonder if there are a significant amount of shy remainers in the country.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:26 am

So there we are - Boris talks endlessly about the need to get Brexit done now, but as soon as Parliament looks like it might actually subject his deal to scrutiny rather than just rubberstamping it suddenly it's more important to render Parliament incapable of getting it done at all for five whole weeks.
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Postby Stiltball » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:38 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I wonder if there are a significant amount of shy remainers in the country.


did you find that one in a christmas cracker?

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Vassenor wrote:So there we are - Boris talks endlessly about the need to get Brexit done now, but as soon as Parliament looks like it might actually subject his deal to scrutiny rather than just rubberstamping it suddenly it's more important to render Parliament incapable of getting it done at all for five whole weeks.


by scrutiny you mean castration and then put up for public ridicule.

- Tricksy or treats-

Beware of Zombie parliamentarians knocking on your door this hallows eve.

imagine Jo swinson, widdecombe or that fabricant standing there - enough to frighten anyone.

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Likelihood of tv debates? Funnily enough I think Boris might be up for it- though it'd only descend into brexit with him, farage and swinson there.

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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:55 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Shrillland wrote:The bookies have spoken: https://www.yahoo.com/news/who-will-win-uk-general-election-161039452.html

Ladbrokes has 10/11 odds on a Conservative majority with 20/1 for Labour.

Oddschecker is showing 1/6 on Conservatives having most seats and 15/2 on Labour, with 7/2 on the next PM being Jeremy Corbyn and 1/4 on it being Boris.

I think it's worth looking at the other odds alongside, as it clarifies the picture is not that overwhelming -- odds in gambling mainly being the amount staked (so being more a reflection of others' opinions).

Polling isn't necessarily reliable, but at least it is more of an indication about how people may intend to vote, rather than what people may be willing to back money on.

Bookies are sometimes way off the mark, but it's interesting nonetheless.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:00 am

Stiltball wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:I wonder if there are a significant amount of shy remainers in the country.


did you find that one in a christmas cracker?

[Tab=][/Tab]
Vassenor wrote:So there we are - Boris talks endlessly about the need to get Brexit done now, but as soon as Parliament looks like it might actually subject his deal to scrutiny rather than just rubberstamping it suddenly it's more important to render Parliament incapable of getting it done at all for five whole weeks.


by scrutiny you mean castration and then put up for public ridicule.

- Tricksy or treats-

Beware of Zombie parliamentarians knocking on your door this hallows eve.

imagine Jo swinson, widdecombe or that fabricant standing there - enough to frighten anyone.

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Likelihood of tv debates? Funnily enough I think Boris might be up for it- though it'd only descend into brexit with him, farage and swinson there.


>castration and public ridicule

Oh so we're required to protect Boris' delicate feefees now?
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Postby Crysuko » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:07 am

Vassenor wrote:
Stiltball wrote:
did you find that one in a christmas cracker?

[Tab=][/Tab]

by scrutiny you mean castration and then put up for public ridicule.

- Tricksy or treats-

Beware of Zombie parliamentarians knocking on your door this hallows eve.

imagine Jo swinson, widdecombe or that fabricant standing there - enough to frighten anyone.

----------------------------------------------------------

Likelihood of tv debates? Funnily enough I think Boris might be up for it- though it'd only descend into brexit with him, farage and swinson there.


>castration and public ridicule

Oh so we're required to protect Boris' delicate feefees now?

When he's inevitably re elected I doubt he'll be too sore
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Ethel mermania wrote:A terrorist attack on a disabled center doesn't make a lot of sense, unless to show no one is safe.

This will take some time to figure out, i am afraid.

"No one is safe, not even your most vulnerable and insecure!"

Cesopium wrote:Welp let's hope armies of 10 million don't just roam around and Soviet their way through everything.

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Victoriala II wrote:Ur mom has value

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Postby Stiltball » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:08 am

Vassenor wrote:>castration and public ridicule

Oh so we're required to protect Boris' delicate feefees now?


You were on your ridiculous hobbyhorse again - Janus arguments- if he vioted against an election you'd be spouting shit about him avoiding public scrutiny or whatever-

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Postby Vassenor » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:09 am

Stiltball wrote:
Vassenor wrote:>castration and public ridicule

Oh so we're required to protect Boris' delicate feefees now?


You were on your ridiculous hobbyhorse again - Janus arguments- if he vioted against an election you'd be spouting shit about him avoiding public scrutiny or whatever-


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Postby Philjia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:53 am

Labour's become so rubbish I'm actually going to have to vote for them to make sure they don't lose my constituency. This is not how I wanted them to win my vote back.
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Oct 30, 2019 3:55 am

Philjia wrote:Labour's become so rubbish I'm actually going to have to vote for them to make sure they don't lose my constituency. This is not how I wanted them to win my vote back.

Tbh I think this entire election is going to be marred by people being forced to vote tactically.
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Postby Greater vakolicci haven » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:26 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Philjia wrote:Labour's become so rubbish I'm actually going to have to vote for them to make sure they don't lose my constituency. This is not how I wanted them to win my vote back.

Tbh I think this entire election is going to be marred by people being forced to vote tactically.

Same, I'll be voting in uni which is a labour/tory marginal so can't vote Brexit party really.
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Postby Juristonia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:35 am

Philjia wrote:Labour's become so rubbish I'm actually going to have to vote for them to make sure they don't lose my constituency. This is not how I wanted them to win my vote back.

Honestly.
The only thing they had to do was pick a clear position, and not bumble anything up too badly for a while.
But apparently "Just sit there and be quiet" was too difficult.
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Juristonia wrote:
Philjia wrote:Labour's become so rubbish I'm actually going to have to vote for them to make sure they don't lose my constituency. This is not how I wanted them to win my vote back.

Honestly.
The only thing they had to do was pick a clear position, and not bumble anything up too badly for a while.
But apparently "Just sit there and be quiet" was too difficult.

I'm having to vote Lib Dem in this constituency as they are the only ones that can keep the SNP out.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:44 am

I'm going to vote for Labour because as much as I want to keep the Tories out I'd rather chuck myself into the canal than do a tactical Lib Dem vote.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:45 am


Well they should have woken up some three years ago. Now it's time to leave.
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