Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:08 am
There's your second referendum, people want Brexit.
Because sometimes even national leaders just want to hang out
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Lower Nubia wrote:The genuinely sad thing, is if we had MMP we would have an entirely different future outcome. I’m not concerned about Corbyn’s loss, the EHRC’s report on anti-semitism, the IFS’s analysis on Labour’s manifesto concerning tax, made Corbyn’s position weaker. While Boris’s EU deal is hardly fiscally conservative, his parties islamophobia, and deceit in this election should have made the electorate question a vote for either. Apparently, however, the sunk cost fallacy over Brexit was all the electorate really ever needed. I’m glad I spoiled my ballot
Marxist Germany wrote:There's your second referendum, people want Brexit.
Those two analogies Alan Johnson uses made me think of Corbyn as a flaming turd. What else stinks on your doorstep and is in a paper bag?The Archregimancy wrote:For those who missed it...
Alan Johnson rips into Jon Lansman and Momentum live on ITV.
Clearly not all senior party figures believe that the core problem is unfair media coverage of the leader.
Marxist Germany wrote:There's your second referendum, people want Brexit.
Greater vakolicci haven wrote:Lower Nubia wrote:The genuinely sad thing, is if we had MMP we would have an entirely different future outcome. I’m not concerned about Corbyn’s loss, the EHRC’s report on anti-semitism, the IFS’s analysis on Labour’s manifesto concerning tax, made Corbyn’s position weaker. While Boris’s EU deal is hardly fiscally conservative, his parties islamophobia, and deceit in this election should have made the electorate question a vote for either. Apparently, however, the sunk cost fallacy over Brexit was all the electorate really ever needed. I’m glad I spoiled my ballot
What's MMP?
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:So did young people not vote, or did they mainly vote Conservative?
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Alright so national results, absolute clusterfuck, this place is screwed, im quickly entering a period of "I dont give a fuck" about mainland UK politics, just like i was prior to 2015.
Locally however.... i was kind of.. happy with how it turned out, very much so (as some of you witnessed in this very thread) so im gona do a little breakdown of how things went in Northern Ireland last night:
OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF VOTE:
DUP 30.6%
Sinn Féin 22.8%
Alliance Party 16.8%
SDLP 14.9%
UUP 11.7%
Aontú 1.2%
Others:2.0%
VOTE SHARE CHANGE FROM 2017:
DUP: -5.4%
Sinn Fein: -6.7%
Alliance Party: +8.8
SDLP: 3.1%
UUP: 1.4%
Aontu: 1.2%
SEATS:
DUP: 8 -2
Sinn Fein: 7 NOC)
Alliance Party: 1 +1
SDLP: 2 +2
Oths: 0 -1
DUP lost North and South Belfast, Sinn Fein lost Foyle but gained North Belfast, Alliance gained North Down, SDLP gained Foyle and South Belfast.
I am over the moon with this result, 3/4 MP's in Belfast are Nationalist, the DUP only held East Belfast by 1800 votes with Alliance right behind them. Alliance took North Down which i thought would go DUP, and the SDLP took Foyle as well as South Belfast giving them 2 MP's. DUP and Sinn Fein's vote share is down quite considerably, with the Alliance party enjoying quite a large swing in their favour, moving into second place in several Unionist dominated areas ahead of the UUP.
I was honestly surprised how much of a beating Sinn Fein took last night, they didnt lose any seats but their vote share got obliterated in some constituencies, down 19% in Foyle, down 12.9% in my home constituency of West Belfast. But despite that they balanced out in seats, as i mentioned above, losing one but taking another.
The DUP and Loyalism are the big losers of this election easily, the DUP took some serious hits in Belfast and lost a fair few votes in other seats they held onto, making it likely someone, namely alliance might be able to try and wrestle them away from them in the future.
Nationalism did really well last night, with three historic wins, taking North Belfast and getting a majority of MP's in Belfast, and the SDLP picked up its votes as Sinn Fein's dropped, evening it out a bit. And overall, there are now more Nationalist MP's than there are Unionist MP's, 9-7 which is fucking monumental.
Alliance also did really well last night, taking a seat, coming close to taking another and moving solidly into second place in several other constituencies and enjoying the biggest swing in the vote, it seems the surge from the local and MEP elections continued on. THE YELLOW TIDE BITCHES YE YE YE YE YE
The New California Republic wrote:Still happy as a clam that Fife North East was snatched from SNP. The rest of the result is shit, but I was most interested in this seat.
The New California Republic wrote:Still happy as a clam that Fife North East was snatched from SNP. The rest of the result is shit, but I was most interested in this seat.
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Alright so national results, absolute clusterfuck, this place is screwed, im quickly entering a period of "I dont give a fuck" about mainland UK politics, just like i was prior to 2015.
Locally however.... i was kind of.. happy with how it turned out, very much so (as some of you witnessed in this very thread) so im gona do a little breakdown of how things went in Northern Ireland last night:
OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF VOTE:
DUP 30.6%
Sinn Féin 22.8%
Alliance Party 16.8%
SDLP 14.9%
UUP 11.7%
Aontú 1.2%
Others:2.0%
VOTE SHARE CHANGE FROM 2017:
DUP: -5.4%
Sinn Fein: -6.7%
Alliance Party: +8.8
SDLP: 3.1%
UUP: 1.4%
Aontu: 1.2%
SEATS:
DUP: 8 -2
Sinn Fein: 7 NOC)
Alliance Party: 1 +1
SDLP: 2 +2
Oths: 0 -1
DUP lost North and South Belfast, Sinn Fein lost Foyle but gained North Belfast, Alliance gained North Down, SDLP gained Foyle and South Belfast.
I am over the moon with this result, 3/4 MP's in Belfast are Nationalist, the DUP only held East Belfast by 1800 votes with Alliance right behind them. Alliance took North Down which i thought would go DUP, and the SDLP took Foyle as well as South Belfast giving them 2 MP's. DUP and Sinn Fein's vote share is down quite considerably, with the Alliance party enjoying quite a large swing in their favour, moving into second place in several Unionist dominated areas ahead of the UUP.
I was honestly surprised how much of a beating Sinn Fein took last night, they didnt lose any seats but their vote share got obliterated in some constituencies, down 19% in Foyle, down 12.9% in my home constituency of West Belfast. But despite that they balanced out in seats, as i mentioned above, losing one but taking another.
The DUP and Loyalism are the big losers of this election easily, the DUP took some serious hits in Belfast and lost a fair few votes in other seats they held onto, making it likely someone, namely alliance might be able to try and wrestle them away from them in the future.
Nationalism did really well last night, with three historic wins, taking North Belfast and getting a majority of MP's in Belfast, and the SDLP picked up its votes as Sinn Fein's dropped, evening it out a bit. And overall, there are now more Nationalist MP's than there are Unionist MP's, 9-7 which is fucking monumental.
Alliance also did really well last night, taking a seat, coming close to taking another and moving solidly into second place in several other constituencies and enjoying the biggest swing in the vote, it seems the surge from the local and MEP elections continued on. THE YELLOW TIDE BITCHES YE YE YE YE YE
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:The New California Republic wrote:Still happy as a clam that Fife North East was snatched from SNP. The rest of the result is shit, but I was most interested in this seat.
Yeah Jo Swinson lost her seat and you were looking at losing Orkney and Shetland but at least you got Fife North East
Not necessarily, SInn Fein held onto the border regions which are quite rural, especially Fermanagh and South Tyrone, and West Tyrone.Lower Nubia wrote:The Huskar Social Union wrote:Alright so national results, absolute clusterfuck, this place is screwed, im quickly entering a period of "I dont give a fuck" about mainland UK politics, just like i was prior to 2015.
Locally however.... i was kind of.. happy with how it turned out, very much so (as some of you witnessed in this very thread) so im gona do a little breakdown of how things went in Northern Ireland last night:
OVERALL PERCENTAGE OF VOTE:
DUP 30.6%
Sinn Féin 22.8%
Alliance Party 16.8%
SDLP 14.9%
UUP 11.7%
Aontú 1.2%
Others:2.0%
VOTE SHARE CHANGE FROM 2017:
DUP: -5.4%
Sinn Fein: -6.7%
Alliance Party: +8.8
SDLP: 3.1%
UUP: 1.4%
Aontu: 1.2%
SEATS:
DUP: 8 -2
Sinn Fein: 7 NOC)
Alliance Party: 1 +1
SDLP: 2 +2
Oths: 0 -1
DUP lost North and South Belfast, Sinn Fein lost Foyle but gained North Belfast, Alliance gained North Down, SDLP gained Foyle and South Belfast.
I am over the moon with this result, 3/4 MP's in Belfast are Nationalist, the DUP only held East Belfast by 1800 votes with Alliance right behind them. Alliance took North Down which i thought would go DUP, and the SDLP took Foyle as well as South Belfast giving them 2 MP's. DUP and Sinn Fein's vote share is down quite considerably, with the Alliance party enjoying quite a large swing in their favour, moving into second place in several Unionist dominated areas ahead of the UUP.
I was honestly surprised how much of a beating Sinn Fein took last night, they didnt lose any seats but their vote share got obliterated in some constituencies, down 19% in Foyle, down 12.9% in my home constituency of West Belfast. But despite that they balanced out in seats, as i mentioned above, losing one but taking another.
The DUP and Loyalism are the big losers of this election easily, the DUP took some serious hits in Belfast and lost a fair few votes in other seats they held onto, making it likely someone, namely alliance might be able to try and wrestle them away from them in the future.
Nationalism did really well last night, with three historic wins, taking North Belfast and getting a majority of MP's in Belfast, and the SDLP picked up its votes as Sinn Fein's dropped, evening it out a bit. And overall, there are now more Nationalist MP's than there are Unionist MP's, 9-7 which is fucking monumental.
Alliance also did really well last night, taking a seat, coming close to taking another and moving solidly into second place in several other constituencies and enjoying the biggest swing in the vote, it seems the surge from the local and MEP elections continued on. THE YELLOW TIDE BITCHES YE YE YE YE YE
Counter intuitively, are you thinking that rural NI is becoming unionist, while the cities are becoming republican?
The New California Republic wrote:Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Yeah Jo Swinson lost her seat and you were looking at losing Orkney and Shetland but at least you got Fife North East
You weren't here last night when I said that Swinson going was the icing on the cake, as that was exactly what I was hoping for, so using that to try to rain on my parade is wide of the mark buddy.