UK Politics Thread XI: Boris' Big Bombastic Brexit Bash

[Gravlen]

Or, to put that another way, a gas is matter that is insubstantial and largely empty when compared to things that are not gases.

An interesting discussion that is clearly going exciting places.

It is, dare I say, a noble discussion. At least periodically.

[Hurdergaryp]

An interesting discussion that is clearly going exciting places.

It is, dare I say, a noble discussion. At least periodically.

Bonus points for Gravlen.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

Or, to put that another way, a gas is matter that is insubstantial and largely empty when compared to things that are not gases.

An interesting discussion that is clearly going exciting places.

You really think so?

[Chan Island]

Man from Northern Ireland arrested under suspicion of murder after 39 bodies were found in his lorry in Essex

I came on mostly to talk about this. What an absolutely terrible thing, can barely believe such a mass slaughter could happen. I hope the full hammer of justice and shotgun of retribution can be brought to bear on those responsible for this.

[The New California Republic]

Man from Northern Ireland arrested under suspicion of murder after 39 bodies were found in his lorry in Essex

I came on mostly to talk about this. What an absolutely terrible thing, can barely believe such a mass slaughter could happen. I hope the full hammer of justice and shotgun of retribution can be brought to bear on those responsible for this.

Someone has created a thread for it as well.

[Chan Island]

I came on mostly to talk about this. What an absolutely terrible thing, can barely believe such a mass slaughter could happen. I hope the full hammer of justice and shotgun of retribution can be brought to bear on those responsible for this.

Someone has created a thread for it as well.

Yup, noticed it after posting that comment.

[Salandriagado]

So the Commons is getting to the end of a 20 minute "slag off Boris Johnson for not turning up to meetings" session.

[Hirota]

Interesting polling showing that most Brits want an early General election.

I've been hammering on about this for months now, but I was interested to see most want it after Brexit rather than before. For me personally I see a general election as the way forward to delivering Brexit/ getting it repealed as the party mandates will be clearer.

But we absolutely should be getting an election sooner rather than later so the public can decide how they think their respective MP's are performing.

[Souseiseki]

Interesting polling showing that most Brits want an early General election.

I've been hammering on about this for months now, but I was interested to see most want it after Brexit rather than before. For me personally I see a general election as the way forward to delivering Brexit/ getting it repealed as the party mandates will be clearer.

But we absolutely should be getting an election sooner rather than later so the public can decide how they think their respective MP's are performing.

people think that once we technically leave the EU we will be "done with brexit" and can stop talking about it. so from this perspective it makes sense. get brexit out of the way so we can have an election on the important issues instead of more brexit crap.

they're completely wrong, of course. the brexit deal (or no deal) will just be the beginning of the negotiations for our future relationship and brexit will loom over us for decades to come. but politicians who benefit from the "why haven't we left yet?!" crowd make sure to conveniently never mention it.

[The Blaatschapen]

Interesting polling showing that most Brits want an early General election.

I've been hammering on about this for months now, but I was interested to see most want it after Brexit rather than before. For me personally I see a general election as the way forward to delivering Brexit/ getting it repealed as the party mandates will be clearer.

But we absolutely should be getting an election sooner rather than later so the public can decide how they think their respective MP's are performing.

people think that once we technically leave the EU we will be "done with brexit" and can stop talking about it. so from this perspective it makes sense. get brexit out of the way so we can have an election on the important issues instead of more brexit crap.

they're completely wrong, of course. the brexit deal (no deal) will just be the beginning of the negotiations for our future relationship and brexit will loom over us for decades to come. but politicians who benefit from the "why haven't we left yet?!" crowd make sure to conveniently never mention it.

So much this.

It's not like the EU will cease to have a land border, trade, and/or common policies with the UK.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

MPs voted for Johnson's deal. The government should take it through committee stage. Why interrupt it's progress with an election campaign?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

MPs voted for Johnson's deal. The government should take it through committee stage. Why interrupt it's progress with an election campaign?

Because BoJo's heart is against a deal.

[Hirota]

Interesting polling showing that most Brits want an early General election.

I've been hammering on about this for months now, but I was interested to see most want it after Brexit rather than before. For me personally I see a general election as the way forward to delivering Brexit/ getting it repealed as the party mandates will be clearer.

But we absolutely should be getting an election sooner rather than later so the public can decide how they think their respective MP's are performing.

people think that once we technically leave the EU we will be "done with brexit" and can stop talking about it. so from this perspective it makes sense. get brexit out of the way so we can have an election on the important issues instead of more brexit crap.

they're completely wrong, of course. the brexit deal (or no deal) will just be the beginning of the negotiations for our future relationship and brexit will loom over us for decades to come. but politicians who benefit from the "why haven't we left yet?!" crowd make sure to conveniently never mention it.

Which is why I'm quite personally ambivalent about the whole drama about "getting a deal" before we leave. We might get a deal now (with Boris getting closer than May, and closer than anyone thought he could), but like you said, it's not going to be the finalised relationship between the UK and the EU which isn't going to happen for another 5, 10 years down the line.

And I know the obvious result of that is 5 to 10 years of chaos, but I'm pretty sure we are getting that with a deal as a result of the transition anyway.

[Vassenor]

MPs voted for Johnson's deal. The government should take it through committee stage. Why interrupt it's progress with an election campaign?

Because they want to run out the clock so that the only way to avoid No Deal is to push it through as fast as possible with no time to scrutinise or amend the WAB.

[Vassenor]

And now the Telegraph is advocating bringing back the pink triangle badge.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

And now the Telegraph is advocating bringing back the pink triangle badge.

An op-ed in the Telegraph, rather.

[Vassenor]

And now the Telegraph is advocating bringing back the pink triangle badge.

An op-ed in the Telegraph, rather.

Hey, if we have to judge other publications by the content of what it approves for its editorial column...

[Vassenor]

Also turns out that big "GET READY FOR BREXIT" ad campaign has been a spectacular waste of £100mil of taxpayer money.

So much for fiscal responsibility from the conservatives.

[Ifreann]

And now the Telegraph is advocating bringing back the pink triangle badge.

British papers apparently just cannot get enough transphobia.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

A British man who went to Syria to fight against IS found guilty of terrorism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-50167158

I wish there was more in depth coverage, as it sounds like he was found guilty of being in the same place as terrorists rather than terrorism.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

A British man who went to Syria to fight against IS found guilty of terrorism.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-50167158

I wish there was more in depth coverage, as it sounds like he was found guilty of being in the same place as terrorists rather than terrorism.

To me, it looks like he was accused of going to the same training camp that terrorists go to, not actually committing terrorism. After thinking about it for a bit, it makes sense - why would you go to a terrorist training camp if you weren't training to be a terrorist? - but I wish I had more information.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Johnson wants a December 12th election. That should guarantee a low turnout.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Johnson wants a December 12th election. That should guarantee a low turnout.

Hey the day after my brirthday.

[Alvecia]

Johnson wants a December 12th election. That should guarantee a low turnout.

Hey the day after my birthday.

Happy eventual birthday

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Johnson wants a December 12th election. That should guarantee a low turnout.

Hey the day after my brirthday.

You won't be voting with that hangover.